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Court hears guns case (Justice Kennedy, Second Amendment gives "a general right to bear arms")
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/18/08 | Mark Sherman - ap

Posted on 03/18/2008 9:45:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: AuntB
Listen to the oral arguments here.

http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

21 posted on 03/18/2008 10:01:47 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: All

I want to throw something out here and see what happens.

How do you all feel about raising the mandatory sentences for crimes where a gun is involved (robbery, assault, and worse)?

And in a similar vein, what about as gun owner who has their weapon used in a crime they didn’t commit (a kid takes a parent’s weapon from a secure locale and does harm)?

Please no flaming, no anger. I don’t own a gun, nor do I have kids, so I’m really intersted in what law-abiding gun-owners have to say.

Thanks.


22 posted on 03/18/2008 10:05:24 AM PDT by BigBadVoodooDaddy
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To: KoRn

23 posted on 03/18/2008 10:06:08 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: BigBadVoodooDaddy

sorry for the typo..

the second question should read “what about A gun owner..”

(I know...it wasn’t the best use of English either way)

:)


24 posted on 03/18/2008 10:07:37 AM PDT by BigBadVoodooDaddy
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To: KoRn
That could be a very encouraging sign of things to come. I'd like to know what his idea of "general" is.

You can bet it won't be too pleasing to most 2nd Amendment purists. Looks good for a victory for the basic 2nd Amendment right, but there will be some weasily words added to allow many restrictions.

25 posted on 03/18/2008 10:07:46 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Pistolshot

Thanks, pistolshot. Will I need my BP meds?


26 posted on 03/18/2008 10:09:50 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Always Right
"Looks good for a victory for the basic 2nd Amendment right, but there will be some weasily words added to allow many restrictions."

Yep...another punt from the men in black...


27 posted on 03/18/2008 10:12:41 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: AuntB
I think you will laugh hysterically at the proponents of the case as they present it.

Oh, Ginsberg is actually alert and asking questions.

28 posted on 03/18/2008 10:13:08 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: NormsRevenge

***The Supreme Court appeared ready Tuesday to endorse the view that the Second Amendment gives individuals the right to own guns,***

In other words, BURY YOUR GUNS, DEEP! By Lots Of Ammo, NOW!


29 posted on 03/18/2008 10:13:28 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: KoRn
That could be a very encouraging sign of things to come. I'd like to know what his idea of "general" is.

His idea is simple, a general is one rank above a Full Bird Col.

Therefore, any general in DC has the right to carry {or have his enlisted body guards} carry guns.

Next case.

30 posted on 03/18/2008 10:13:28 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: BigBadVoodooDaddy
"How do you all feel about raising the mandatory sentences for crimes where a gun is involved (robbery, assault, and worse)? And in a similar vein, what about as gun owner who has their weapon used in a crime they didn’t commit (a kid takes a parent’s weapon from a secure locale and does harm."

If you'd been paying attention, you'd know your questions have already been amply answered:

the NRA has been at the forefront of legislation that does just what you suggest.

Idiot.

31 posted on 03/18/2008 10:13:59 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: NormsRevenge
"...a coalition called Stand Up for Democracy in D.C., defended the district's prohibition on handguns."

Nope, no irony here!

George Orwell would have been so proud of "Anise" Jenkins.

32 posted on 03/18/2008 10:15:55 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
"BURY YOUR GUNS, DEEP!"
By
Lots Of Ammo

ISBN: 19492-188299.002
Harper Press, Chicago, Illinois
First Edition (illustrated)

33 posted on 03/18/2008 10:18:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We're all gonna die!!!!)
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To: Sloth
So much for their claim that they're not anti-gun.

Oh, they're not anti-gun. They're just anti-YOUR gun.

34 posted on 03/18/2008 10:21:55 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: BigBadVoodooDaddy
Member 2008-03-12

Please no flaming, no anger. I don’t own a gun, nor do I have kids, so I’m really intersted in what law-abiding gun-owners have to say.

IBTZ?

Everybody over age 18 should have a submachine gun. Next?

35 posted on 03/18/2008 10:24:21 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: BigBadVoodooDaddy
How do you all feel about raising the mandatory sentences for crimes where a gun is involved (robbery, assault, and worse)?

I favor the death penalty for all premeditated violent crimes, gun or not.

And in a similar vein, what about as gun owner who has their weapon used in a crime they didn’t commit (a kid takes a parent’s weapon from a secure locale and does harm)?

What about them?

36 posted on 03/18/2008 10:29:18 AM PDT by Sloth (Senator He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, D - Illinois)
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To: Always Right

We can fully expect a 5-4 decision on this one, I’d say. The Clement brief was a plea to keep the current FEDERAL restrictions in place, and at the same time, affirm the individual right to keep and bear arms. That’s a dance step on which the Court may stumble.
IMO, there is no ambiguity in the language of the Second Amendment...

It’s in the tagline.


37 posted on 03/18/2008 10:35:15 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: PubliusMM

If they keep some so-called ‘reasonable’ restrictions guidelines, I see a justice or two from the left joining. I am seeing a 7-2 decision. Of course they fooled me on McCain-Feingold though. I figured the left usually took such an extreme view on the first Admendment, how could they? But they did, and it was funny how shocked Dummies were that it was all the lefties who voted for major First Amendment restrictions.


38 posted on 03/18/2008 10:40:31 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: NormsRevenge

For 32 years, DC has had the strictest gun laws in the country...
Along with the highest crime rates in the country.

Can we hope that the justices get the corelation????


39 posted on 03/18/2008 10:40:32 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: BigBadVoodooDaddy
**** How do you all feel about raising the mandatory sentences for crimes where a gun is involved (robbery, assault, and worse)? ****

That law is already on the books - pushed by the NRA. All a city has to do is ask the Feds to Prosecute. The irony IS that a city almost never does; i.e. Chicago, because that criminal with a gun has family that Votes. (not sarcasm)

**** And in a similar vein, what about as gun owner who has their weapon used in a crime they didn’t commit (a kid takes a parent’s weapon from a secure locale and does harm)? ^^^^

Change 'Gun' to 'Hammer', or to 'Chain Saw', or 'Car', or 'Baseball Bat', or 'Knife', etc, and your question answers itself.

Odds are YOU own scores of 'weapons' that could kill someone - like a Parker Ballpoint Pen to the throat. Are YOU responsible if someone steals 'it' and uses it in a crime without your knowledge? That would be pretty absurd, correct.

40 posted on 03/18/2008 10:40:39 AM PDT by Condor51 (If my nose was runnin' money, honey I'd blow it all on you.)
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