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The Deep Blue Divide (Democrats were thrilled, Now ....)
Newsweek ^ | Mar 24, 2008 Issue | Julia Baird

Posted on 03/17/2008 5:37:36 AM PDT by IrishMike

For months, Democrats were just thrilled with their choices. Now they can't even stand to sit together.

For the past five years, a group of friends, mostly military wives or retired government workers, have been meeting for lunch at an Italian restaurant called Amici's in a strip mall in Stafford, Va. All Democrats, they don't come just for the wood-fired pizza or $8.99 lunch buffet. They come to talk about their beloved party. But lately, the air has chilled in the Tuscan-themed room.

At the lunch after Clinton's loss in Virginia, Alicia Knight, 49, a Hillary supporter, came in late. The only spare chair was between two Obama supporters, both old friends of Knight's. "I was so angry, I didn't want to sit between them, so I sat by myself at another table," she says. "It's become like the cold war: in order to maintain the relationship, you don't talk to each other." Recently, the Clinton and Obama groups began lunching separately. "We couldn't take the bashing, the smirkiness of the Obama fans," says Linda Berkoff, 63.

It's unclear exactly when the primaries stopped being a joyous occasion for the Democrats. But as the weeks have ground on, the intensity between Democrats who disagree has calcified, the vitriol grown fiercer. According to exit polling in the Texas primary, 91 percent of Clinton supporters said they would be dissatisfied with Obama as the nominee; 87 percent of Obama fans said they would be dissatisfied with Clinton. Nationally, a quarter of those who back Clinton say they'd vote for John McCain if Obama won the nomination (while just 10 percent of Obama supporters would do the same if he lost).

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; demchaos; dementalillness; democratparty; democrats; elections; hillobama; identitypolitics; leftards; liberalmind; nobama; va2008
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To: gibsosa
“Speaking of overhearing libtard conversations, I have heard women here gabbing about who to vote for, and listening to their empty-headed “reasoning” makes me put my head in my hands and pray for help above. Their truly are ALOT of people with nothing at all of substance between their ears. And, lest anyone think I am a misogynist, I am a female. (And, there are just as many men in this category as well)”

Yes. It is often hard for intelligent people to realize that half of the population has an IQ below 100. Add to that the dumbing down of our schools and the incessant propaganda in the old media, and you are seeing the result.
21 posted on 03/17/2008 6:31:39 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MrB

HEH.. when I hear someone (and so far they have been women) say “ I like Hillary” I ask them why-— “I think she’s smart” and I follow with: “Why? What are some of the smart things she has done?” They have no answer beyond that. The MSM has done their brainwashing well, but with that said they have a fairly large captive audience.


22 posted on 03/17/2008 6:34:38 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: marktwain
IF Hillary is the nominee it can almost be assured that the female vote will take her down.

Most women that I know can't stand her.

23 posted on 03/17/2008 6:37:06 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: marktwain

I recall my late Dad saying (and this was probably in the late 60’s) “1 out of every 500 people actually uses 1/4 of their brain” I was a young’un at the time, and thought, “Dad, that’s mean!” Now that I am older, I realize he was actually being conservative in his calculations... well, WAY conservative.


24 posted on 03/17/2008 6:37:51 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: Daveinyork
What happens when there is only one prize, and two of your groups want it? This.

A group of McCain and Duncan Hunter supporters may react the same. In fact, we see it all the time on FR. Many of us, though not me, are willing to turn the country over to to the Devil rather than vote for a backslider.

25 posted on 03/17/2008 6:38:53 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: gibsosa
"I have heard women here gabbing about who to vote for, and listening to their empty-headed “reasoning” makes me put my head in my hands and pray for help above. Their truly are ALOT of people with nothing at all of substance between their ears."

I'm with you here. Well-educated, intelligent Americans who should otherwise know better are inclined to someone because they "like him better" or "get a better feeling from him." Sheesh.

Political leaders, like business leaders, need to be good at the essentials, especially in dangerous times. For business, in a recession, it's keeping an eye on the bottom line. For a nation, in a time of war, it's keeping the nation safe.

It really amuses me to watch the Dems try and control the message this year. Hill and B. Hussein keep trying to make the primary messages be health care, affordable college, and rising gas prices.

26 posted on 03/17/2008 6:40:38 AM PDT by tom h
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To: Moose4

“There’s so much blood. Women want the White House. Blacks want the White House,”.....“They don’t know how it will end. It’s so toxic.”

Donna Brazile, campaign manager to Al Gore in 2000


27 posted on 03/17/2008 6:55:06 AM PDT by IrishMike (I am not a Republican first. I am a conservative.)
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To: GOPJ
Dr. Martin Luther King was a Republican.

Aw geez. Don't go spreading the truth. You'll get us in trouble. /sarcasm>

28 posted on 03/17/2008 7:01:43 AM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: gibsosa
“I like Hillary” I ask them why-— “I think she’s smart” and I follow with: “Why? What are some of the smart things she has done?”

This elitism of intellect is fairly new in American politics. Questions used to be centered on values, accomplishments. Now it's, "He's smart."

What is "smart"?

29 posted on 03/17/2008 7:08:56 AM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: IrishMike

Sorry to burst everyones bubble here, BUT power RULES and for the SAKE of the little children....ooops I mean for the sake of the RAT party those two will unite! Somehow THIS is going to happen. DON’T THINK FOR ONE MOMENT those two won’t join ticket....HELL YES! This could be the last chance for either one of them. Second spot will start looking attractive to either the SHE-DEVIL or OSama. Whoever takes second chair will have a second chance at the presidency. DON’T FOOL YOURSELVES...it’s a long time from here to the election. Things can change in a blink of an eye! I for one am keeping my eyeballs glued to those two SNAKES! Never underestimate a RAT...NEVER when power is involved!


30 posted on 03/17/2008 7:09:52 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: tom h
Hill and B. Hussein keep trying to make the primary messages be health care, affordable college, and rising gas prices.

How will they make health care cost less money?

How will they make college cost less money?

How will they make gasoline cost less money?

The basic ways to make things cost less are: increase supply or decrease demand. All these clowns want to do is make someone else pay for it.
31 posted on 03/17/2008 7:13:17 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Carbon Dioxide is NOT POLLUTION. It is PLANT FOOD, necessary for all life on Earth.)
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To: RoseofTexas

I agree. I don’t see how these two can do without each other.


32 posted on 03/17/2008 7:14:05 AM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: IrishMike

This is what has happened to the Democrats as a result of the Soros-promoted BDS. He created so much irrational hate that it has caused them to begin to eat their own.


33 posted on 03/17/2008 7:21:22 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: IrishMike
For the past five years, a group of friends, mostly military wives or retired government workers, have been meeting for lunch at an Italian restaurant called Amici's in a strip mall in Stafford, Va. All Democrats

I wonder what their husbands who are serving in war zones think about the fact that their wives are supporting a political party that's trying to undercut their mission and possibly get them killed.

34 posted on 03/17/2008 8:10:13 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: bassmaner
I wonder what their husbands who are serving in war zones think about the fact that their wives are supporting a political party that's trying to undercut their mission and possibly get them killed.

Democrats don't worry about little things like that.

35 posted on 03/17/2008 8:13:35 AM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: IrishMike
The Democrat Dilemma of Clinton and Obama

For the 2008 election the Democrats have two of their most worthless, inept, inexperienced and notorious members competing for POTUS. What does that say about the rest of their party?

It says: They must surely have no one person of any worth amongst all of their leaders who can carry the Democrat torch with honor and dignity.

It says: All they can offer are their two most skilled liars, frauds, cheats, whiners, propagandists, finger-pointing, blame-game playing, socialist/communist lovers, terrorist supporters, Machiavellian, narcissistic, criminals who are America-hating, white-blaming, anti-military, big business bashing, controversial, antagonistic and divisive members to stand and represent the Democrat party.

Out of the millions of Democrats and thousands of Democrat politicians - these two horrid creatures are their top picks to run this country!!!??? There is not one good outcome of their primary. Not one of these two is without the sleaziest, seediest of associates, connections and suspicious backgrounds.

What a sorry, sorry state of affairs for today's Democrats when they can present no better candidate than these two who have no redeeming leadership qualities, no principles, and the main distinction left for their voters in selecting between them is that one is black and one is a woman. To illustrate how hopeless it is to expect Democrat voters to select a candidate of substance, based on issues and what value the candidate has as a nominee, reporters Mike Wereschagin and Salena Zito from the Tribune-Review in Pittsburgh, PA (Sun. March 16,2008) quoted a local Democrat citizen at a St. Patrick's Day parade yesterday. According to the paper, the woman said: “I'd be happy to see a black man elected president, but I'd also be happy to see a woman win." The writers further added "...as she sat along the parade route holding two signs. The one on the left said "Obama." On the right: "Clinton Country.” It is obvious from her statement that the majority of Democrats cannot make any intelligent, informed decision based on leadership skills of their candidates; they are left deciding between race or gender alone.

Unfortunately for America there are some things these two candidates are notorious for and that is that one can only repeatedly state that he will bring about "change," while flaunting his decision not to wear a U.S. flag lapel pin(and has a wife who has never been proud of her country) - and the other candidate constantly blubbers or screeches about everyone being mean and picking on her (and brings her philandering husband out of mothballs to defend her when she can’t handle the heat)! Great qualifications these two have demonstrated in their run for the White House!

36 posted on 03/17/2008 8:48:36 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: IrishMike
Yellow Dog Democrats seeing red in the blue states on St. Patrick's Day?
37 posted on 03/17/2008 8:49:16 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Go to Hell, Dook!)
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To: IrishMike
Nationally, a quarter of those who back Clinton say they'd vote for John McCain if Obama won the nomination (while just 10 percent of Obama supporters would do the same if he lost).

I guess people ARE more racist than sexist. /sarc

So, would voting for Obama in the primary make sense if you want McCain to win?

38 posted on 03/17/2008 8:54:49 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: Daveinyork

“This is what happens when your whole basis for being is satisfying groups.”

Democrats are getting a taste of their own racist medicine. After years of playing the race and gender cards on republicans, they’re now playing them on each other.


39 posted on 03/17/2008 9:35:00 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: IrishMike

McCain in a landslide.


40 posted on 03/17/2008 10:01:07 AM PDT by NRPM
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