LIVE THREAD- Obama makes the "Jeremiah Wright" rounds on CNN, FOX and MSNBC Friday, 14 March, 2008

MSNBC ~FOX~ CNN | 14 March 2008

[SE Mom]

The roundup starts with Keith Olberman now on MSNBC

8 PM

FOX NEWS

9 PM

CNN

10 PM

All times are Eastern

[Zechariah11]

The kicker, Obama cannot even be put on the ticket now. There will ABSOLUTE TOTAL PANDEMONIUM at this Convention.

This is the best Trailer I've seen in some time. It's going to be fun!

[Tennessee Nana]

I think the ultimate nightmare still... team ticket.
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hush..

Wash your keyboard out...

[Tennessee Nana]

The kicker, Obama cannot even be put on the ticket now. There will ABSOLUTE TOTAL PANDEMONIUM at this Convention.
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Stop thinking like a conservative and a reasonable person...

These are liberals ...

They can do anything they want to ...with impunity and kudos...

“PANDEMONIUM at this Convention” ...Yes

Obama shut out ????...Just let Bill and Hill try that...

[TigersEye]

Even conservatives call "charming" a man who voted four times in favor of legalizing infanticide. Yes, something big is going down here, and the nature of it is worth contemplating.

Nothing happens in a vacuum, I am certain of that. For me contemplation is a means of familiarizing myself with awareness not an attempt to gain knowledge so I am wary when a thought becomes fascinating. The nature of reality is always worth contemplating even when things appear to be going well. But awareness itself brings knowledge which can't, or shouldn't, be ignored. The fact that the man is fascinating to so many is a red flag all in itself. Some lights are very attractive but are not the kind to be drawn to.

[cricket]

Love that Obama imagines a pass on his testimony that his is in fact a 'good Church' that has done much good in the community. Can only wonder how many 'rising' racists this Church has encouraged, promoted. . .'raised up'.

Obama knows for sure; that bad needs a good horse as does evil.

Am inclined to think as well; that Obama has been riding a good horse himself; and for many years.

[TigersEye]

I failed to hear anything about religion or even a superficial reference to anything remotely spiritual in the pastor's ranting. It was entirely political to my ear. I have no problem with political thoughts being expressed in a church, synagogue, ashram or even a mosque as long as it's not fomenting hate and/or inciting sedition. In this case it seems to be about both.

But I guess Obama missed all of these political sermons which is kind of sad for him since the church thought so highly of them that they put them on a DVD called The Best of Pastor Wright. Apparently he is lying when he calls Wright his mentor, adviser, friend, guide through troubled times and the man who brought him to Jesus.

How could you miss his best sermons and not even bother to check out the DVD? His loyalty to his church and pastor is as empty as everything else about him. What other conclusion can I draw?

[IIntense]

...I can't stop laughing.

I'm to read your reply as sarcasm, right?

[IIntense]

If they can place him in that audience for any of those speeches he's dog meat.

Does common sense have any value? During 20 years of attending this church and listening to Jeremiah Wright's racist rants, how could a reasonable, unbiased person believe than Barack Obama NEVER heard his pastor rail against the United States and the white race?

Did Wright's false tantrums just begin in the last two years, for instance?

He HAD to be in that audience over the course of twenty years, regardless of what he now claims. IMO, we do not need someone who can place him in that audience... and it's doubtful any member of this congregation will indict him.

[IIntense]

If they can place him in that audience for any of those speeches he's dog meat.

Does common sense have any value? During 20 years of attending this church and listening to Jeremiah Wright's racist rants, how could a reasonable, unbiased person believe than Barack Obama NEVER heard his pastor rail against the United States and the white race?

Did Wright's false tantrums just begin in the last two years, for instance?

He HAD to be in that audience over the course of twenty years, regardless of what he now claims. IMO, we do not need someone who can place him in that audience... and it's doubtful any member of this congregation will indict him.

[IIntense]

It will be easy to prove.

I hope you're right, but how?

[Eva]

I read that near the end of the tape of Wright talking about the Clintons and the election, Wright told the congregation that “O” was in fact here, today. Now, Wright could have meant Oprah, but since he was talking about Obama, I have to assume that he meant Obama.

[cricket]

How could you miss his best sermons and not even bother to check out the DVD? His loyalty to his church and pastor is as empty as everything else about him. What other conclusion can I draw?

Agree with all your points here. . .

There IS only one reasoned conclusion to draw here. The 'head-nodders' and bobbers, of course, will rest easily in their assumptions.

It interesting to note that Obama, twice now. . .offered that he never heard him speak like that when he was sitting 'in the pew'. So I am envisioning the Rev's rousing talks by this time; have all the prayerful on their feet. (Or Obama adding a feaux garnishment here; as if he is effortlessly detailing a literal truth - whereby he appears more convincing.)

That the Rev's radicalism did not come late into his Faith but rather was full-blown, by the time Obama showed up , makes Obama's distancing seem false to the point of rediculous. His condemnations now; no more than a self-serving, petty betrayal for politcal gain.

[Armedanddangerous]

If there is film out there..the whitewater coverup crew WILL find it.

You can take that to the bank. It will come out a few days before either the convention, or the primaries next month. Either way, Hitleries people make the KGB look like Mormon missionaries.

[TigersEye]

He’s either lying to us he’s lying to his pastor or he’s lying to both. He seems more comfortable doing it than the infamous Slick Willy ever did. That is really something.

[cricket]

No doubt the search is on; and as well, greater scrutiny of Obama's words/books. . .testimonies; looking for the connecting threads. . .dots. . .to Wrights sermonizing. We hear it easily in the contributions of Michele Obama; and it is no doubt, readily available, in the words of Obama; if one is determined to find it - as some already are.

Scott at Powelineblog.com goes there, offering quotes from Rich Lowery at NRO. . .per small excerpt here:

[. . .] At NRO's Corner, Rich Lowry discovers an admiring allusion to this vein of Wright's rhetoric in Obama's 1995 memoir Dreams From My Father about the first sermon Obama heard Wright give:

And so it went, a meditation on a fallen world. While the boys next to me doodled on their church bulletin, Reverend Wright spoke of Sharpsville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State House. As the sermon unfolded, though, the stories of strife became more prosaic, the pain more immediate. The reverend spoke of the hardship that the congregation would face tomorrow, the pain of those far from the mountaintop, worrying about paying the light bill…[. . .]

There is more; and more to come on this, without a doubt.

[Tennessee Nana]

What did you expect him to say...

Romney did it and now Obama...

[cricket]

Again, from Obama's 'Dreams of My Father'. . .

[. . .] “It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere…That’s the world! On which hope sits!”

Reverend Wright spoke of Sharpsville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State House. As the sermon unfolded, though, the stories of strife became more prosaic, the pain more immediate.]

No question, Obama is inspired by his mentor; and his sermonizing familiar . Bottom line; the dream has been interrupted and seems a nightmare may be unfolding.

(Can only wonder what his more outspoken wife is saying about the latest turn of events.)

[SomeCallMeTim]

It will be easy to prove.

I hope you're right, but how?

Most all churches these days video tape services. All churches keep records of attendance. There will be records available... somewhere. And, I'd bet anything the Clintoons will find it.

[TigersEye]

What can you say? Delusional Marxist black separatists.

[cricket]

What can you say? Delusional Marxist black separatists.

Absolutley, yes and precisely.. . .for sure here, the truth speaks for itself.