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Senate backs some tax cuts, nixes others
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/13/08 | Andrew Taylor - ap

Posted on 03/13/2008 1:55:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The Senate on Thursday gave a sweeping endorsement to some of President Bush's tax cuts but rejected renewing others as all three major presidential candidates interrupted their campaigns to cast key votes on the budget.

The chamber voted 52-47 to reject a move by Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-S.C., to extend Bush's tax cuts for middle- and higher-income taxpayers, investors and people inheriting businesses and big estates.

That vote came immediately after the Senate gave a sweeping 99-1 tally to an amendment by Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., endorsing cuts aimed at low-income workers, married couples and people with children.

The votes are mostly symbolic, but they put senators in both parties on the record for when the tax cuts actually expire in three years.

Arizona GOP Sen. John McCain, Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting, voted for the full roster of Bush tax cuts. Rivals Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and Barack Obama, D-Ill., both voted against them.

The developments came as the Senate began a full day of votes on a $3 trillion Democratic budget blueprint for 2009. The nonbinding plan envisions a balanced budget in four years and promises generous increases for many domestic programs, but achieves those goals only by assuming major tax increases when Bush's tax cuts expire.

Obama and Clinton both promise to reverse Bush's tax cuts for wealthier taxpayers, but the Democratic budget they'll be voting for would allow income tax rates to go up on individuals making as little as $31,850 and couples earning $63,700 or more.

Opponents of "pork barrel" projects expected to lose a late-night vote to ban such earmarks for a year, despite the endorsement of all three presidential candidates.

Across the Capitol, the House resumed debate on a companion Democratic measure predicting larger surpluses while allowing $683 billion worth of tax increases over five years with the expiration of Bush's tax cuts.

A Republican alternative that largely mirrored a plan by McCain to permanently extend Bush's tax cuts and eliminate the alternative minimum tax was expected to fail badly, with party moderates distancing themselves from the GOP plan's huge cuts in popular programs like Medicare, housing, community development, and the Medicaid health care program for the poor and disabled. Such cuts were needed to make room for big tax cuts and still project a balanced budget.

Congress' annual budget debate involves a nonbinding budget resolution that sets the stage for subsequent bills affecting taxes, benefit programs such as Medicare, and the annual appropriations bills. Unless such follow-up legislation is passed, however, the budget debate has little real effect and is mostly about making statements about party priorities.

This is such a year. Congress rarely tackles difficult budget issues as elections loom, and a standoff with Bush means that Democrats may even take a pass on advancing the 12 annual appropriations bills.

The rival budget plans display the difficult trade-offs facing the next president, who must weigh attempting to balance the budget with tax cuts that expire at the end of 2010 and spending programs popular with Democrats and Republicans alike.

"The biggest issue in this campaign is going to be your taxes," Bush said Wednesday night at a GOP fundraiser. "I think the biggest issue in this campaign is which side of the political divide is going to let you keep your money, and which side is going to raise your taxes."

The first year of an administration is typically when heavy lifting on the budget is done, but each candidate's campaign plans seem to promise more than they can deliver. McCain's tax cuts would require applying a meat cleaver to spending, while the Democrats promise spending plans that would enlarge the deficit or require too-large tax increases.

The White House forecasts the deficit for the current year at $410 billion, a near record.

On Capitol Hill, Democrats trumpeted their plan for putting the budget back in surplus while also making investments in infrastructure, education, community development, clean energy and other programs. It also avoids $196 billion worth of Bush-proposed cuts to Medicare and the Medicaid health care program for the poor and disabled.

Democrats in the House and Senate are divided on taxes. The House budget plan assumes elimination of the full roster of Bush tax cuts.

In the Senate, however, Democrats offered an amendment to renew tax cuts including the 10 percent tax bracket on the first $7,825 of income for individuals, the $1,000 per child tax credit, and estate tax relief. But the tax plan offered by Baucus would eat up virtually all the planned surpluses while allowing income tax rates to bounce back to pre-Bush levels, as would taxes on dividends and capital gains on stock and real estate sales.

Under both Democratic plans, tax rates would increase by 3 percentage points for each of the 25 percent, 28 percent and 33 percent brackets. At present, the 25 percent bracket begins at $31,850 for individuals and $63,700 for married couples. The 35 percent bracket on incomes over $349,700 would jump to 39.6 percent.

Senate Republicans countered with an amendment that would extend income tax cuts and current rates on investments, but the move would mean the budget would stay in the red, producing deficits of about $130 billion in 2012 and $160 billion in 2013.

The Democratic plans would provide generous, greater-than-inflation increases for domestic agency budgets. They both endorse Bush's even more generous $36 billion, or 7 percent, increase for the core Pentagon budget.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nixes; senate; taxcuts
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1 posted on 03/13/2008 1:55:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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The bills are H. Con. Res. 312 and S. Con. Res. 70.

House Budget Committee: http://budget.house.gov

Senate Budget Committee: http://budget.senate.gov


2 posted on 03/13/2008 1:55:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

I like the clever misdirect at the end about Bush’s defense budgets.

Bush has held spending in check despite the suggestions of many posters here.

Bush consistently offers lower increases in domestic spending than the democratic counterparts.

When that comes to light as it does in this article, the journalist interjects a larger percentage for military programs as a way of implying that democrats generally spend less.

this is of course untrue.


3 posted on 03/13/2008 1:58:30 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: NormsRevenge

So, dhimmicrats think you’re “the rich” if you make 32k per year.

Bastards.

And it’s not about revenue or reducing the deficit either,

it’s about controlling people’s lives through limiting their ability to accumulate wealth and be independent.


4 posted on 03/13/2008 1:58:45 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am so very glad that we threw all of those RINOs out of office and teach the GOP a lesson.

Deep Breath

Bend Over

Exhale

Get Bum Screwed By The Dems


5 posted on 03/13/2008 2:10:57 PM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dammit, dammit, dammit, there go the markets again.


6 posted on 03/13/2008 2:19:33 PM PDT by cake_crumb (I will criticize Obama as much and as often as I want.)
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To: lonestar67

Thank you for posting that.


7 posted on 03/13/2008 2:20:09 PM PDT by cake_crumb (I will criticize Obama as much and as often as I want.)
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To: MrB
So, dhimmicrats think you’re “the rich” if you make 32k per year. Bastards. And it’s not about revenue or reducing the deficit either, it’s about controlling people’s lives through limiting their ability to accumulate wealth and be independent.

Now that would make a great "nuclear" campaign ad, if done in the spirit of LBJ's controversial bombshell ad. I don't think, however, the current GOP has the balls to do much of anything except pander and meander.

8 posted on 03/13/2008 2:20:56 PM PDT by pt17
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To: misterrob
"I am so very glad that we threw all of those RINOs out of office and teach the GOP a lesson.

"Deep Breath

"Bend Over

"Exhale

"Get Bum Screwed By The Dems"

And thank YOU so much for posting that. I've been feeling a bit overwhelmed here lately.

9 posted on 03/13/2008 2:22:25 PM PDT by cake_crumb (I will criticize Obama as much and as often as I want.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Obama and Clinton both promise to reverse Bush's tax cuts for wealthier taxpayers, but the Democratic budget they'll be voting for would allow income tax rates to go up on individuals making as little as $31,850

Now we know what the Democrats mean by rich, which isn't a surprise to most of us.

10 posted on 03/13/2008 2:37:27 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: lonestar67

“Bush has held spending in check....” - lonestar67

False. Bush has allowed real expenditures to grow an average of 3.6% each year of his administration.


11 posted on 03/13/2008 3:12:22 PM PDT by mdefranc
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To: NormsRevenge
The 35 percent bracket on incomes over $349,700 would jump to 39.6 percent.

Next comes the layoffs from business.

Anyone who thinks that government is just sticking it to the rich is living in dreamland.

12 posted on 03/13/2008 3:29:41 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NormsRevenge
A couple of @$$holes prevented the tax cuts from becoming permanent. One was McCain and the other was DeWine of OH. Too bad McCain didn't vote for it or it would have gone through. One lousy vote. Another one about DeWine, I remembered he raised a big stink about the repealing of the National Maximum Speed Limit.
13 posted on 03/13/2008 3:41:57 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: EGPWS

Taxes are not there to punish the rich, it is to keep “being rich” as an exclusive club. That is to prevent you from getting some financial independence (getting rich). Why do you think that executives support high taxes ?


14 posted on 03/13/2008 3:53:15 PM PDT by RonBond
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To: RonBond
Why do you think that executives support high taxes?

Government extortion.

15 posted on 03/13/2008 4:01:30 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: MrB

Exactly, we never knew exactly who the rich were that the Dems always complained about were getting the tax breaks. I’ve now learned that a single person making over $75K or a married couple making over $150K are rich. I look around and I definitely have never considered myself rich by any standard, but I must be according to these bastards!


16 posted on 03/13/2008 4:38:04 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: NormsRevenge
greater-than-inflation increases for domestic agency budgets

Typical Dems - increase the budgets of education, labor, EPA, etc. and strip the military!

17 posted on 03/13/2008 4:40:29 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: misterrob

you’re arguing that the pubes were better?


18 posted on 03/13/2008 5:43:11 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: ichabod1

One side spent a lot but didn’t raise taxes and tried to do something with SS but still raised the deficit.

The other side wants to raise taxes, increase the deficit, grow government socialism more than it is and cause a recession of huge proportions.


19 posted on 03/13/2008 6:00:13 PM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: Alissa

Oh, no, you’re way too high!

Single making over $31,850 is “rich”, because Hillbama both voted to revoke the tax cuts for all of these people.


20 posted on 03/13/2008 6:17:20 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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