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Federal vice agents tout successes (caused spike in burglaries, could cause murders)
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 03/09/08 | Steve Visser

Posted on 03/09/2008 10:43:28 AM PDT by gondramB

Metro Atlanta may get a little bloodier. Call it a sign of success.

Jack Killorin, who heads a federal narcotics task force, said his agents are rolling up drug-trafficking organizations to the point that they have decreased the quality and raised the price of drugs on the street.

Narcotics task force chief Jack Killorin says thefts are up because criminals have to pay more.

He credits last year's spike in area burglaries, robberies and car thefts in part to criminals forced to pay more for their illicit drugs.

If law enforcement someday succeeds in breaking up established drug territories — the real sign of success from a metropolitan perspective — it could mean a similar spike in murders, as drug organizations vie for a larger market share.

"If the market here gets unstable down to the street, then the streets will get bloody," said Killorin, director of Atlanta High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area Task Force (HIDTA). "I don't think we're there yet."

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


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This isn't a very positive take on the war on drugs, especially from the Fed charged with prosecuting the war in my city.

He credits last year's spike in area burglaries, robberies and car thefts in part to criminals forced to pay more for their illicit drugs
1 posted on 03/09/2008 10:43:29 AM PDT by gondramB
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To: gondramB

What a disgrace - applauding an increase in violent crime - remind me again as to why the Feds need to be pulling this BS?


2 posted on 03/09/2008 10:54:14 AM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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To: gondramB
Typical DEA mindset. Lots of stats = bigger budget. Law of unintended consequences, be damned.

Wonder how many doors they kicked in that were for innocents?

Now left up to the local LEO's to clean up the mess.

And no, I'm not for legalized anything, its just that the War on Drugs is a money making/full employment program for Judges/Prison Guards/Probation Officers/DEA/etc., etc.,etc. and its success while touted by these anecdotal self-serving platitudes, have not had any appreciable affect whatsoever on drug use nationwide; and moreover, have packed our prisons with low level dealers and users.

In addition, have turned a lot SWAT teams into jack-booted thugs who also have to justify big budgets and their existence, all that firepower they were given by feds/military and rather than being utilized for what they were initially designed for (high level crimes/hostage/terror situation) they are now being used routinely to serve warrants--of all kinds.

3 posted on 03/09/2008 11:01:08 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: gondramB
He credits last year's spike in area burglaries, robberies and car thefts in part to criminals forced to pay more for their illicit drugs.

Excellent! And when the streets all across America become violent cesspools of crime, we'll finally know the War On (some) Drugs has finally been a success. But so long as there is one safe street to walk on, we will all know there is still work to do.

4 posted on 03/09/2008 11:44:08 AM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: KantianBurke

I guess the people down there can’t jump in a car and take a twenty minute ride to buy drugs. I wouldn’t be patting myself on the back when there is an ample supply of potent drugs in every city and town across America.


5 posted on 03/09/2008 11:48:34 AM PDT by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERMINATED PREGNANCY)
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To: gondramB

I live in Gwinnett County and was burgled 2 years ago. Yesterday, my neighbor stopped by to tell me some “good” news. Her friend who had 2 previous break-ins, happened to be home the other day, when they tried a third time-this time into a detatched garage that held racing cars. She called the police and they got these guys. Apparently it was a ring of theives who were burglarizing to get money for drugs. A father and son team leading a ring of like-minded criminals.


6 posted on 03/09/2008 11:48:39 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: gondramB
He credits last year's spike in area burglaries, robberies and car thefts in part to criminals forced to pay more for their illicit drugs.

OK, I'll bite... Does he actually know this, or does he only "know" this? What portion of last year's spike in such crimes does he attribute to criminals forced to pay more for their gasoline?

7 posted on 03/09/2008 11:50:01 AM PDT by Zeppo (Every mighty mild... seventies child... Beats me (Metric - Combat Baby))
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To: freeangel

I also live in Gwinnett. At least its better and safer than Dekalb that I moved from.


8 posted on 03/09/2008 11:51:18 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Zeppo

>>He credits last year’s spike in area burglaries, robberies and car thefts in part to criminals forced to pay more for their illicit drugs.


OK, I’ll bite... Does he actually know this, or does he only “know” this? What portion of last year’s spike in such crimes does he attribute to criminals forced to pay more for their gasoline?<<

Yep... this really isn’t the guy that should be talking about this. I wonder if he really opposes the war on drugs and and intentionally torpedoed the program with this interview.

Or maybe he’s an idiot.


9 posted on 03/09/2008 11:53:58 AM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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Prosecutors: Officer admitted lying about botched drug raid
Lawyer for narcotics unit rookie says he was following lead of veteran officers.
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Here’s the real news ,,, linked at the end of this threads article.. Hey .. Who really needs that Bill of Rights Thingie anyway!!

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2008/02/27/tesler_0228.html?cxntlid=inform


10 posted on 03/09/2008 12:20:23 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Well said!


11 posted on 03/09/2008 12:21:52 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: coloradan

Spoken like a true druggie commie scum.


12 posted on 03/09/2008 12:22:45 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

It might actually be cheaper to have the government supply these drugs to users for free than to continue with the current enforcement regime. If that proud DEA agent is to be taken at his word, we’d all be safer for doing so.


13 posted on 03/09/2008 12:30:52 PM PDT by Content Provider
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To: gondramB

Brilliant. The government “solves” a problem by creating a bigger one, and hails this as a success. And they’re even expecting higher murder rates as a further sign of “success”. Using our tax money to accomplish it all.


14 posted on 03/09/2008 2:31:46 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: mamelukesabre

Well, how else is one supposed to measure the success of an anti-drug program, except by increases of other types of crimes? It’s not my metric, it’s the DEA’s.


15 posted on 03/09/2008 3:18:54 PM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: mamelukesabre

Spoken like a true druggie commie scum.
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Try opening your eyes ,, the link I provided was to one of the cops involved with murdering and planting drugs on that 92 year old woman in Atlanta, these “peace officers” tried to cover their tracks by saying “the informant this and the informant that” but refusing to name the informant... The gov’t is hip deep in keeping the flow of drugs into the country open...The war on drugs is essentially the “full employment for cops and jailers” act... decriminalizing drugs would make this country more orderly ,, not less and would remove the crime associated with the high prices for what is essentially cheap product. Nobody will make you take drugs ,, I promise..

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2008/02/27/tesler_0228.html?cxntlid=inform


16 posted on 03/09/2008 3:20:15 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer

I don’t care. I wan’t drugs removed and drug users removed. If there are crooked cops, remove them too. Don’t blame the drug laws.


17 posted on 03/09/2008 3:30:52 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: mamelukesabre

The gov’t is involved in enabling the importation of drugs into the country and every police agency and jail is on the gravy train ,, they have no incentive to get drugs off the street. “Google” “rite rail”

here’s a good one ===>> http://www.therant.us/guest/d_fitzgerald/print/06022007.htm

We allow Mexico’s drug lords (read high gov’t officials) to send drugs into this country unimpeded, the drugs that used to come directly from other central american countries now come in through Mexico as their drug cartels are buddies with our politicians...

The drug laws are there for the good of the drug cartels IT KEEPS THEIR PRICES HIGHER!


18 posted on 03/09/2008 3:58:09 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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I wan’t drugs removed and drug users removed.

Don't forget tobacco. Time to end that awful blight on this land.

19 posted on 03/09/2008 4:05:26 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes

Excuse me? Are you one of those commie druggie scumbags that like to equate tobacco with crack, pot, and meth?


20 posted on 03/09/2008 4:24:44 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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