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Teach climate change (Barf Beliefs from California)
LA Times ^ | 9 March 2008 | By Tom Wagner and Kathleen Gorski

Posted on 03/09/2008 7:34:14 AM PDT by shrinkermd

A state Senate bill, which passed the chamber in January, would mandate that climate change be a science topic taught in the state's public schools. But the legislation, now in the Assembly, has drawn fire from some lawmakers, who say the science is too controversial for inclusion in the curriculum. They want guarantees that the views of skeptics will be included.

But those objections are just silly. The reality is that there is no disagreement any longer among scientists on the major principles, causes and effects of global warming. The world's largest and most reputable scientific societies, such as the American Assn. for the Advancement of Science, all concur that the burning of fossil fuels is putting so much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere that the Earth has been pushed off its natural cycle and is warming. As a result, sea levels will rise as ice sheets melt. Low-lying coastal regions will flood. And droughts and storms may become more frequent and severe.

That's what the science tells us, and teaching students about it is perfectly appropriate. Climate change will directly affect how young people live. They are inundated with information about it, and it is already guiding some of their career choices. But they need a message of hope. Too often the media and scientific community offer only predictions of doom and gloom. Accurate or not, young people need to feel empowered.

There are plenty of legitimate and fascinating subjects for students to debate. Among the most important questions: Will the ice caps melt away slowly or will they disintegrate in catastrophic events? Figuring this out will tell us whether sea levels will rise a few inches or many feet in the next 100 years.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agw; change; climate; globalwarming; gorbullwarming; homeschooling; schools
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For people who have faith in environmentalism there is no controversy--only how best to proselytize. Climate change and environmentalism is a religious belief that brings meaning to the lives of the overclass and, at the same time, results in a larger, more egalitarian government.
1 posted on 03/09/2008 7:34:15 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

Indoctrinate them while they are young!


2 posted on 03/09/2008 7:38:01 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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3 posted on 03/09/2008 7:38:09 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: shrinkermd
But they need a message of hope. Too often the media and scientific community offer only predictions of doom and gloom. Accurate or not, young people need to feel empowered.

LOLOLOL! The evolution of self esteem. Accurate or not, as long as young people feel empowered, then we should do this.

4 posted on 03/09/2008 7:40:28 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: shrinkermd

Teaching this crap to students who have not yet learned basic H.S. biology, chemistry, and physics is just patently absurd. Even if they do allow a dismissive mention of the so-called Deniers.


5 posted on 03/09/2008 7:40:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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“Climate change and environmentalism is a religious belief that brings meaning to the lives of the overclass and, at the same time, results in a larger, more egalitarian government.”

People need religion, it’s just a basic desire to believe in a higher power, and a greater purpose. Many, (most?), of these environmentalist whack jobs are atheists who have substituted environmentalism for real religion.

Sad.


6 posted on 03/09/2008 7:46:32 AM PDT by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: shrinkermd

I don’t know why they passed a law, schools have been doing this for a while anyway.


7 posted on 03/09/2008 7:46:37 AM PDT by Gullit
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8 posted on 03/09/2008 7:46:48 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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Shortly before Earth Day, a good friend of mine and I were discussing the indoctrination of young children in public schools and how they were gearing up for earth day events.

He says to me ‘watch this’, and calls his young son over. He asked his son ‘When your teacher asks, What are we going to do to celebrate Earth Day?’

His son enthusiastically replied ‘We’re going to cut down trees and make them into firewood!’

He said back ‘And why are we going to do that?’

His son replied ‘Because it means we’ll save money on our heating bill, which means we use less gas, which is good for the earth’.

He looks at his son, and says ‘Good boy!’

I was hysterical!


9 posted on 03/09/2008 7:47:53 AM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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Teach them basic Geology, and then they will understand. Apparently Gore never had a course in Geology.


10 posted on 03/09/2008 7:49:13 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: FreedomPoster

Teach them basic Geology, and then they will understand. Apparently Gore never had a course in Geology.


11 posted on 03/09/2008 7:50:32 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: proud_yank

We definitely need more of that sort of thing.


12 posted on 03/09/2008 7:54:01 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: shrinkermd

They can’t even get tomorrow’s weather right sometimes. No way they can predict trends about warming or cooling. They don’t know for sure what triggered the changes in the past, so they can’t say what’s going to happen.

All I know is that I’d love to see less snow and warmer temperatures.


13 posted on 03/09/2008 7:54:26 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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He clearly never had a course in meteorology either.


14 posted on 03/09/2008 7:55:20 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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15 posted on 03/09/2008 7:56:19 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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And droughts and storms may become more frequent and severe.

Less ice means more water. Storms bring rain. More water means more crops.

The coasts aren't going to flood like they do in a tsunami. If the water levels rise, it will be gradual enough for people to move inland. The coasts will not be hit with a wall of water like the disaster movies.

16 posted on 03/09/2008 7:59:02 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Ah-ha. I had a feeling something was up with this - it's an 'OPINION' (op-ed).
Tom Wagner is the program director for Earth sciences for the U.S. Antarctic Program at the National Science Foundation. Kathleen Gorski is a science teacher and Einstein Fellow at the National Science Foundation. Their views are their own and do not reflect official views of the National Science Foundation.
'Einstein Fellow' ?!?
Ha, hardly! She ain't no Einstein is she believes this Man Made Global Warming carp.

btw Kathy, what's this mean: E = mc2.
Secondly, how does that relate to Super Gamma Ray Bursts. (nah-nah, no cheating 'Einstein')

17 posted on 03/09/2008 8:04:40 AM PDT by Condor51 (If my nose was runnin' money honey, I'd blow it all on you.)
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I think the climate is changing. It’s been so d**ned cold this year I wish gore would come to town and give some speeches. His hot air might help.


18 posted on 03/09/2008 8:10:36 AM PDT by stevem
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Amazing how the left believes in Cause and Effect here, but doesn’t believe in it elsewhere.


19 posted on 03/09/2008 8:22:00 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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20 posted on 03/09/2008 8:51:30 AM PDT by Amelia (Cynicism ON)
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