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Fort Drum Prints Photos After Arrests for D.W.I.
The NY Times ^ | March 8, 2008 | LISA W. FODERARO

Posted on 03/08/2008 10:40:22 AM PST by stentorian conservative

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1 posted on 03/08/2008 10:40:23 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: stentorian conservative

A little humility goes a long way. Good job, General!


2 posted on 03/08/2008 10:42:48 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: stentorian conservative

should be after convicted not after arrest. But then again you are guilty until proven not guilty in this crime.


3 posted on 03/08/2008 10:44:27 AM PST by CJ Wolf (Let Freedom Ping List - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Join it.)
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Arnold Jones, a retired general contractor and Vietnam veteran who lives in nearby Philadelphia, N.Y., said he believed that soldiers convicted of driving while intoxicated should be forced to perform community service.

“Putting their pictures up don’t mean nothing,” he said. “You can’t embarrass a drunk. I used to be an alcoholic.”

4 posted on 03/08/2008 10:45:42 AM PST by stentorian conservative (Ignore Napolean's Dogs. . . Vote your conscience.)
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Shaming has been used for thousands of years as a punishment, it's public record anyway so I really don't have a problem with it.

I personally like when judges make shoplifters and other petty criminals wear a sign in public as a punishment for what they did, better than a fine and public service IMHO.

5 posted on 03/08/2008 10:46:46 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: CJ Wolf

You have a good point, if they are found innocent the paper should then publish their photo explaining they were innocent and apologize to them. Better to wait until found guilty then do it.


6 posted on 03/08/2008 10:48:57 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: stentorian conservative

MY immediate thoughts are to fire/court martial the General in charge of this stupid and insulting action.


7 posted on 03/08/2008 10:49:00 AM PST by eleni121 (Solzhenitsyn on the bombing of Serbia: "no difference whatsoever between NATO and the Nazis")
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To: bigfootbob

Humility? These guys are heroes. How about some counseling some outreach and some spiritual advice before this bizarre public shaming of our heroes.


8 posted on 03/08/2008 10:51:10 AM PST by eleni121 (Solzhenitsyn on the bombing of Serbia: "no difference whatsoever between NATO and the Nazis")
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I agree...this is stupid. and of course now the NY slimes gets another opportunity to degrade the military. REal Smart..General!!! With Generals like you who needs a Public Relations dept for the military...?

Oh, of course, the NY Slimes will immdeiately print some wonderful picutres of army guys doing something great for the community...uh, and you will wait how long for those pics, General Stuck-On-Stupid?


9 posted on 03/08/2008 10:54:44 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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The General saw a problem and he fixed it. These guy’s are still heroic, just screwed up. This is an effective fix, the General could have done worse.


10 posted on 03/08/2008 10:56:41 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: stentorian conservative

No one should ever be humilated like this until they are convicted.


11 posted on 03/08/2008 10:56:57 AM PST by StolarStorm
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I thought it was a stupid move also. These guys are headed to a combat zone somewhere at some point in the near future. And while I am no war strategist, I would think humiliating Soldiers before they go off to war is a bad move.


12 posted on 03/08/2008 10:57:00 AM PST by stentorian conservative (Ignore Napolean's Dogs. . . Vote your conscience.)
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. . . it's public record anyway. . .

There is a huge difference between public record and publishing record.
13 posted on 03/08/2008 10:58:45 AM PST by stentorian conservative (Ignore Napolean's Dogs. . . Vote your conscience.)
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Base newspapers have always printed names, convictions, and sentences — but after a determination of guilt.


14 posted on 03/08/2008 10:59:07 AM PST by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: The Paucity of Hope)
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Hmmm, let’s seen. Soldier runs into a hostile and corrupt cop (your typical type in some parts), gets falsly arrested for DWI, and then gets humilated by having his picture posted as a drunk driver.


15 posted on 03/08/2008 10:59:30 AM PST by StolarStorm
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Nonsense.


16 posted on 03/08/2008 11:01:03 AM PST by bigfootbob
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Did you notice that the NYSlimes referred to the Post Paper as a tabloid? Somehow I doubt they meant "condensed paper."
17 posted on 03/08/2008 11:01:40 AM PST by stentorian conservative (Ignore Napolean's Dogs. . . Vote your conscience.)
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To: bigfootbob

He fixed nothing! He has humiliated these heroes. He has allowed the drive bys access to the personal issues of our heroes. To satisfy his own ignorant frustrations.


18 posted on 03/08/2008 11:01:41 AM PST by eleni121 (Solzhenitsyn on the bombing of Serbia: "no difference whatsoever between NATO and the Nazis")
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To: bigfootbob

No its not.


19 posted on 03/08/2008 11:02:56 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: stentorian conservative

I believe in physical punishment.

Caning would be good for many PROVEN GUILTY AND CONVICTED perps. Most perps would remember a good caning and perhaps think twice next time. What was the Nick Lowe song, “Cruel To Be Kind”?

It’s also cheaper than keeping someone in jail or prison for $25-40,000 per year.


20 posted on 03/08/2008 11:05:08 AM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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