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Revisiting Obama's Church
IBD ^ | March7, 2008

Posted on 03/07/2008 5:59:44 PM PST by Kaslin

Obama says he's tired of answering questions about his religion. At a rally in rural Ohio, he was asked again about rumors that he's a Muslim, which have only obscured from public view his real faith, which is no less troubling.

"Here are the simple facts," he half-pleaded with the crowd. "I am a Christian. I am a devout Christian. I have been a member of the same church for 20 years. I pray to Jesus every night. I try to go to church as much as I can."

While impressive, it's where he goes to church that should give American voters pause.

Obama embraced more than Christ when he answered the altar call two decades ago at the Trinity United Church of Christ in Southside Chicago. The 8,000-member church describes itself as "unashamedly black" and holds classes in "African-centered Bible study."

He also pledged to honor something called the "Black Value System," a cultlike code of nonbiblical ethics written by blacks for blacks. It preaches a radically exclusive theology that contradicts the tenets of Christianity.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hussein; jeremiahwright; obama; obamaandgod; ucc
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1 posted on 03/07/2008 5:59:46 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The cult of the Obama-Messiah Church, Inc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1G5BLBHW_A

http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/

I am in no way affiliated, nor do I endorse the above URL’s in ANY way. I personally believe that Obama is, at minimum, a type of Anti-Christ.


2 posted on 03/07/2008 6:02:38 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Kaslin

3 posted on 03/07/2008 6:04:06 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: TheBattman

Yes, I’d like to know how they come up with an “African Centered” Bible study. More hogwash, man-before-God rebellion. Anyone with half a brain can see through this charade. He may be serious, but he’s derailed and deluded and that makes him dangerous.


4 posted on 03/07/2008 6:06:19 PM PST by brushcop (B-Co. 2/69 3rd Infantry Div., "Sledgehammer!" ...and keep hammering 'em!)
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To: Kaslin

"Come to me all who are oppressed and downtrodden, Bow down and worship your new Messiah who will deliver all your needs. I am now your god."

5 posted on 03/07/2008 6:07:06 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Kaslin
I know more about his religion than I do Hillary's or McCain's. Heck I don't even know what or if Hillary or McCain practice a formal religion. What gives?

I know Clinton adores herself and her ego is so massive that I'm sure she thinks she is the annointed one.

What ever happened to the separation between church and state that the left wingers are always prattling about?

6 posted on 03/07/2008 6:07:59 PM PST by harpo11 (Thank Rush Limbaugh if the She-Demon's Ample Tush Sits in the Oval Office! & Slick Willy..well)
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To: Kaslin
Read the beliefs and stated goals of the church he has belonged to for 20 years - in the article - and then read what Michelle, who considers herself co-candidate, believes.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JC04Aa01.html

Be afraid, Whitey

(direct link, next post)

7 posted on 03/07/2008 6:10:39 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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There appears to be a troubling trend of deifying Barak Obama within the media & most particularly at his political -quasi “spiritual” rallies as though he were the leader of a cult.


8 posted on 03/07/2008 6:11:59 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: maine-iac7
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JC04Aa01.html

direct link to the co-candidates deep held beliefs - she HATES whites - or she hates that she ISN”T white - I don't think she knows - but she's dangerous - as is he./

9 posted on 03/07/2008 6:12:48 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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His campaign resembles a cult.


10 posted on 03/07/2008 6:13:12 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: brushcop

There is a name for it - it is called “Black Liberation Theology”. Basically, the idea of salvation to those who believe in such liberation theologies is that eternal life is of no consequence. They believe that liberation from oppression is what salvation is all about. Thus they pick and choose the oppression themes from the Bible and focus on them, making direct application to BLACK positions and history. They equate themselves with Israel under Roman rule, or in more extreme cases, as like Israel under Babylonian rule.

What I find so funny about that - Israel DESERVED both forms of oppression - the first because of their falling away from God and denial of His Son. And the Babylonian captivity because of their direct abominations to God (Idol worship in the temple, completely unGodly living and rulers, absolute corruption despite God’s continued warnings and opportunities to turn from their way).

In fact, some of those churches and preachers (I cannot speak for Obama-Messiah’s pastor) actually believe that Jesus came to deliver Black People only! Of course, they also say that Jesus, while born in Israel, was actually of Egyptian descent...thus Black Himself....


11 posted on 03/07/2008 6:13:57 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: harpo11

I dunno - heard a clip on the radio yesterday that Hillary actually stated at a stop that she had “felt the Holy Spirit” before...

I can’t help but wonder if that was the CONVICTION of the Holy Spirit...


12 posted on 03/07/2008 6:15:14 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: harpo11

Hillary said she has felt the Holy Ghost; I think it was just Huma.


13 posted on 03/07/2008 6:15:23 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like a creepy racist church that capitializes off typical racist victim attitudes...like the Rev Sharpton and Rev Jackson. Losers. All of them.


14 posted on 03/07/2008 6:15:30 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Kaslin
I think that anyone who doesn't see the danger posed by an Obama presidency needs to look carefully behind the curtain. The fact that Obama calls the preacher of his church, his mentor is ominously telling.
15 posted on 03/07/2008 6:15:54 PM PST by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: Kaslin

His church is also pro-abortion and pro-homosexual relationships.


16 posted on 03/07/2008 6:20:23 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: maine-iac7

“And it wasn’t just piano lessons and summer camp, but a mansion in the Chicago suburb that represented an adequate price for Michelle’s soul.”

Well now.


17 posted on 03/07/2008 6:23:58 PM PST by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: Kaslin
Obama embraced more than Christ when he answered the altar call two decades ago at the Trinity United Church of Christ

A UCC has "altar calls"?

18 posted on 03/07/2008 6:26:12 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("recrudescent dispensational chiliasm -- threat or menace?"')
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To: Kaslin

It is also very interesting that his church is quietly slipping into their sheep’s clothing. I suppose if you’ve got something to hide you best be about it. I would expect we will see more of this. I’m sure that there are private understandings that it’s just for politically posturing, like the NAFTA statements.


19 posted on 03/07/2008 6:26:26 PM PST by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: All

Questions for all.

1. If you belonged to a church and they gave a lifetime achievement award to David Duke would remain a member or leave the church?

2. If a white guy was running for president and his church gave a lifetime achievement award to David Duke how bad do you think the media would hound him?


20 posted on 03/07/2008 6:33:59 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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