Posted on 03/05/2008 10:03:50 AM PST by tobyhill
Late-breaking numbers out of Texas’ odd two-phase voting system put an asterisks on Hillary Clinton’s Tuesday night victory speech, showing gains made by Barack Obama in the delegate grab race had all but numerically canceled out her big win in Ohio
Although Clinton scored major moral — and morale — victories by taking more votes in Ohio, Texas and Rhode Island, an Associated Press count of the delegates shows Clinton only reduced Obama’s delegates lead by 12 following Tuesday’s voting. She lost in Vermont to Obama.
In the overall race for the nomination, Obama had 1,562 delegates, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. Clinton had 1,461. It takes 2,025 delegates to secure the Democratic nomination.
For the night, Clinton won at least 185 delegates and Obama won at least 173
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I’ll bring the beer!
Hillary won zip last night ping.
Under our present nominating "system", nominees are chosen neither by "ordinary" party members nor by political types who know what is best for their respective parties.
Being a "party member" for purposes of primary voting is meaningless. On January 8, 2008, I was a Democrat for six minutes.
Why does it make sense for my vote to equal that of lifelong "real" Democrats, or even worse, of Democrat elected officials, who presumably have reasons to wish teh Party well?
The same thing is true on the GOP side.
There is no rhyme or reason to the current priomary process, which is one reason that the results are so consistently bad.
Caucuses are so Communistic. Totally un-American. Every state should be “one man, one vote, secret ballot”. No race intimidation as in TX. No employer-employee intimidation, as in NV. Primaries, that should be all there are.
That’s the thing. The Beast could pick The Muslim to be her running mate and satisfy the adoring crowds.
But The Muslim is no way picking The Beast (and she probably wouldn’t accept).
In which case, The Muslim and Whoever is easier to beat than a Beast And Muslim ticket.
I thought you were slamming the system in Texas, not overall.
Name the person. Howard Dean? Tom Daschle? Nancy Pelosi? Harry Reid? Stalin? All of the above?
The next three contests are in Guam, Mississippi and Bill Clintons favorite, the Virgin Islands.
Methinks Obama wins all three.
Excellent. After all the mega big deal that the Clintons and the media has been making of last night primaries she is going to net less than 15 delegates from all four states, that is not even a scratch in Obama pledged delegates lead which after all this still stands at approximately 140-145.
If you guys think all this “chaos” is doing anything else but helping the democrats, look no further than what Karl Rove said yesterday on H&C. All this does is spell more money and publicity for the Dems. Dems have bottomless pockets when it comes to Obama. Meanwhile, most Republicans feel at best lukewarm about McCain. McCain will get little $$ and ZERO press time this summer, and the Dems are loving it.
ROVE: Well, look, there are three scenarios for this, and the one that most people hang on is that they think the Democrats are going to be ill-served by this process. They are going to get to the convention. They will be exhausted. They will blood each other. They will have bloodied each other up, and it will be ugly.
Now, I admit that’s the conventional wisdom, and it might be true. But let me suggest there are two other alternatives. One alternative is that they go to the convention, and they have a close contest; at the convention it is resolved, and one candidate wins, and they get an enormous burst of positive publicity, particularly if it’s Obama who comes out of that situation. And as a result, they end August on this very high note and really drown out the Republican convention that comes the week following.
The third scenario is that they continue to battle until the convention or maybe not all the way to the convention but close to the convention, and as they battle, in essence, they’re marginalizing McCain, who gets little of the attention. If you look at the coverage of the last week, for example, there have been a lot more column inches and a lot more time on the evening news that have been devoted to the Democratic contest than to McCain or the Republican contest.
You don’t need the apostrophe.
Rove is tough to read sometimes, but he may be doing a little politicking there.
Regardless, I mostly disagree with his conjectures about possible “scenarios”.
FRegards,
LH
Politicking? To what end? There’s not really anything to read into his statement—it’s really just a cautionary note against believing the media hype about this being simply a boon to the republicans. And you are kind of proving my point by being dismissive of it. When Barack emerges out of this primary campaign triumphant, you better believe that’s a media-darling narrative the press is going to carry with it all the way to November 2nd. All I know is, I’m not going to be caught unawares come convention time!
Hopefully around that time a few more Larry Sinclairs will surface. Larry likely wasn't Obama's first foray into cocaine and homo sex. Such revelations would draw a shrug from Democrats, naturally, but plenty of independents would be repulsed.
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