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In the Slums of Fallujah
Middle East Journal ^ | March 4, 2008 | Michael Totten

Posted on 03/04/2008 5:17:17 AM PST by Nony

More from the very front lines.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallujah; iraq; totten
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1 posted on 03/04/2008 5:17:18 AM PST by Nony
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To: Nony

I have mixed emotions about that article. On the one hand, at least Totten is reporting where the drive-by media fear to tread, but all that ridiculousness about the corporal and the sergeant came across to me as useless drivel.


2 posted on 03/04/2008 5:43:25 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: Nony

Good read...thanks.

LBT
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3 posted on 03/04/2008 6:04:38 AM PST by LiberalBassTurds (God Bless the Military!)
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To: Nony

Their slums look better than our slums. It’s amazing what taking away the grafitti and rap music will do for my perceptions.


4 posted on 03/04/2008 6:17:33 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: Nony
I thought it was a good article - It's good to see journalists still working the streets with our Marines.

As far as the Corporal and the Sergeant go, anybody whose been in the service recognizes the type... always a leadership challenge.

5 posted on 03/04/2008 6:17:43 AM PST by Chinstrap61a
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To: Nony
LtCol Chris Dowling is what every Marine looks for in a CO. Father, teacher, leader... hard as nails but generous to a fault.
6 posted on 03/04/2008 6:20:30 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: LSUfan

What do you expect from a dirty laundry slinger that asks for donations when he is getting paid by someone to be there in the first place,and links his blog to a hundred different blogs for exposure. This is nothing more than a military knocker that only gets his eyes opened when he experiences the hard fight close up....then he’s ready to run home.


7 posted on 03/04/2008 6:25:44 AM PST by Wavrnr10 (Eagles soar but weasels don't get sucked in jet engines)
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To: Wavrnr10

You got it all wrong. Completely wrong in fact.

Totten is the real deal. He does not get paid by any one or any news organization to be there. He does it all on the donations he receives through his site.

With the quality of work he’s doing and the way he’s doing it, I think we can forgive him for asking for donations.

Take a look around the site and read some of his posts, chances are you’ll change your mind on the guy.


8 posted on 03/04/2008 6:52:55 AM PST by Nony
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To: Nony

thanks, bfl


9 posted on 03/04/2008 8:14:25 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...
A "That's our boys! ping

I will not publish Corporal Z's and Sergeant C's names because I don't wish to cause them any trouble, but they nevertheless violated MJT's First Rule of Media Relations: Be nice to people who write about you for a living. ......

The belligerent Corporal Z waded into the crowd of kids, smiled warmly, patted one on the head, and gave the others high-fives. What was this? He can’t be nice to Americans, he said he hoped he got to shoot somebody that day, but he’s affectionate with the kids?

“I like it when the kids swarm around me,” he said when he saw that I watched him. “I feel a lot safer.” This was the first time I heard him speak in a normal tone. He’s complicated.

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I didn't know what to say.

“There was another time when an SVBIED fuel tanker came at us,” he (Corporal Smith) said. “Our EOF [escalation of force] measures couldn't stop it. The driver made it into the outpost. He destroyed four Humvees and even melted one of them. No one was killed, though. Just one dead insurgent. Enemy contact was a daily occurrence then. Me and everyone I know who was here then and now are like, what the fuck? This is Fallujah? Sometimes we'll be driving along and I'll pass a place where I got hit. I'll say oh fuck, this is that place where I got hit and everybody stops talking. It's like fucking crickets in the Humvee.”

10 posted on 03/05/2008 2:35:37 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: LSUfan

You’ve never known a Sergeant C and a Corporal Z then.


11 posted on 03/05/2008 4:49:12 AM PST by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra

Oh bullcrap. What I question is a journalist spending a few days around men who have been in a combat zone responsible for the lives of others and making judgements about their demeanor.


12 posted on 03/05/2008 5:38:55 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

You are so used to the usual propaganda that you have failed to note the obvious, Sergeant C and Corporal Z could have been any Real Marine NCO from Tripoli to today.

They are as devoid of the touchy feelly micro management methods as anyone in this day and age could be.

Frankly I am concerned that you are calling for this reporters observations to be more “PC” about our Marines by hiding what they become and how they act in the crucible of battle.

And while I don’t prescribed to the sharp edge of the sword style of leadership, I recognize that not every Marine NCO is capable of performing the difficult balancing act between the sharp edge and the flat side (authoritarian and persuasive) forms of leadership, especially while involved in a hostile environment.

Hiding that from the public view won’t make it go away, it is something to be cherished, the raw form of leadership of the type that has driven men forward into battle for centuries. Somehow it hasn’t died in the Corps yet.


13 posted on 03/05/2008 6:01:20 AM PST by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra; LSUfan
unless i'm reading it wrong, I think you are both saying the same thing...differently.

Remember how this article started:.

“Someone just shot at my Marines,” he said. “We can’t do this right now.”

and that's the and long and short of it.
Keeping Marines alive.

I have very little knowledge about today's Corps. But who I hated and trusted with my life was Sgt. C and Cpl. Z.

I appreciate Totten, cause he's not sitting in the green zone..It does seem Totten hasn't much of an inkling about the USMC and it's history.

Semper Fi.
14 posted on 03/05/2008 9:56:23 AM PST by stylin19a
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To: usmcobra

You misread my comments. I don’t disagree with your observations. I am just skeptical of any journalist’s ability to make such judgements after spending a few days with a unit.


15 posted on 03/05/2008 10:02:25 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: freema

What would be nice is if Sargent Baxter finds a box of Cubans in his mail next month.


16 posted on 03/05/2008 11:10:12 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: Nony

This is my son’s company.


17 posted on 03/05/2008 5:54:45 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: SuzyQue; Marine_Uncle

Maybe Suzy can set it up, Unc!

Suzy, you gonna tell your son they’re famous now?!


18 posted on 03/05/2008 6:24:23 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: freema

I will! And, I’m sending the article to his siblings right now.


19 posted on 03/05/2008 6:40:01 PM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: SuzyQue; freema

May the almighty Lord God keep your son under his wing, like a protective mother hen shields her little chicks from harms way. They serve with HONOR.


20 posted on 03/06/2008 2:50:21 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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