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Mormon, Catholic doctrines can collide (No coffee, tea in polling place?)
East Valley Tribune ^ | March 1, 2008 | Lawn Griffiths

Posted on 03/03/2008 11:08:00 AM PST by greyfoxx39

Religious and cultural traditions collide in odd ways.

• Is it right to tell election poll workers, assigned to Mormon church meeting houses, to not bring coffee, sodas or anything else caffeinated to refresh themselves during their long day tending to voters?

-SNIP-

First, let’s look at the polling place duties and sipping Maxwell House in the meeting house.

Longtime Tempe poll worker Mary Ann Hemmingson has signed up to work the polls for the March 11 election. She’ll spend her 14- or 15-hour day in a church, but no longer one that belongs to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“I never sign up to work at a Mormon church because the board workers there are not allowed to have any caffeine on the premises,” she said. “That means no coffee in the morning and no Diet Coke in the afternoon. ... You don’t want to see what I look like without my daily dose of caffeine. It’s not a pretty picture.”

“The Word of Wisdom” portion of the Doctrine and Covenants, put forth in 1833 by church founder and prophet Joseph Smith, says that “hot drinks are not for the body or belly.” Add to that what H. Burke Peterson, first counselor in the Presiding Bishopric, said in 1975: “We know that cola drinks contain the drug caffeine. We know caffeine is not wholesome nor prudent for the use of our bodies. It is only sound judgment to conclude that cola drinks and any others that contain caffeine or other harmful ingredients should not be used.”

Advising followers to restrict what they take into their bodies is one thing, but applying that mandate to those people who perform a public job inside their buildings in a one-day stint seems to be taking things too Far.

(Excerpt) Read more at eastvalleytribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholic; elections; lds; mormon; mormonism
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With the recent spate of posts of articles regarding the advancement of muslim rules, (foot washing basins, polygamy)

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it appears that in an election year the enforcement of a religious rule in our polling place deserves some comment.

1 posted on 03/03/2008 11:08:02 AM PST by greyfoxx39
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...

PING


2 posted on 03/03/2008 11:09:07 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: greyfoxx39

is de-caf OK? Buckler? O’Douls?


3 posted on 03/03/2008 11:12:21 AM PST by lmc12
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To: lmc12

No tea, alcohol...postum OK. How can you prove it’s de-caf if it’s in the cup, already made?


4 posted on 03/03/2008 11:13:50 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Would Romney have prohibited coffee at state dinners, too?


5 posted on 03/03/2008 11:14:08 AM PST by mngran2
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To: greyfoxx39

No it is not alright. These polling places are not the “ward” but polling places, PUBLIC polling places.


6 posted on 03/03/2008 11:14:36 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: mngran2

As I wasn’t on the Romney guest list, I wouldn’t know about the state dinners.;)


7 posted on 03/03/2008 11:15:58 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: greyfoxx39

No caffeine? I know plenty of LDS people who drink cola drinks.


8 posted on 03/03/2008 11:16:39 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: mngran2

Mitt Romney was the keynote speaker at a Chamber of Commerce Breakfast in my city and there was plenty of Joe.


9 posted on 03/03/2008 11:16:42 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: greyfoxx39
The cities of Mesa and Gilbert are already wholly-owned subsidiaries of the Mormon Church...this doesn’t surprise anyone living in the east valley.
10 posted on 03/03/2008 11:17:14 AM PST by Towed_Jumper (Stephen Hopkins: Founding Father who had Cerebral Palsy.."My hand trembles, my heart does not.")
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To: HungarianGypsy
No caffeine? I know plenty of LDS people who drink cola drinks.

And I know plenty of Christians who lie, fornicate, and swear, but that doesn't mean its allowed in their churches.

11 posted on 03/03/2008 11:18:41 AM PST by mngran2
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To: mngran2

And, that applies to rules in polling places....how?


12 posted on 03/03/2008 11:20:57 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Tough call. If they own the building, they should be able to set the rules inside the building...but then again, the building is being rented or granted for use to perform a secular, public function.

}:-)4


13 posted on 03/03/2008 11:21:16 AM PST by Moose4 (Hey GOP...don't move toward the middle. Move the middle toward us.)
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To: greyfoxx39

At Catholic polling places, they have 8 kinds of domestic on tap. :)


14 posted on 03/03/2008 11:21:23 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: greyfoxx39
I'm a bit lost on the confrontation here ... if persons who are not of the Mormon faith have volunteered to man polling places which are set in Mormon buildings, thus, non-Mormons are being disallowed ease and comfort according to Mormon rules, then these secular activities, ie., polling precincts, should NOT be set up in Mormon buildings. This is discriminatory to persons who are not Mormon -- they should not be subjected to the requirements of a faith they do not espouse because they wish to do their country a service.

By the by -- do they disallow chocolate as well? I'm not Mormon, I ask because chocolate also has caffeine in it.

So what’s a good Catholic Irishman or Irishman-for-a-day to do with St. Patrick’s Day?

What any good Catholic should do regardless the holiday -- give Jesus His due respect. Is it really so difficult to miss out on the drinking binge when the day falls during Holy Week? Such a sacrifice? I recall the Pope giving dispensation regarding meatless Fridays during Lent when St. Patrick's Day happened to fall on a Friday -- sheesh, people, you can't miss the corned beef ONE year?

15 posted on 03/03/2008 11:21:31 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: greyfoxx39

“Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.”

- Paul, from Colossians 2:16-17


16 posted on 03/03/2008 11:22:15 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: massgopguy
Mitt Romney was the keynote speaker at a Chamber of Commerce Breakfast in my city and there was plenty of Joe.

Was the breakfast held on Mormon turf? That is the problem here, not that those of the Mormon faith cannot be around caffeinated products.

17 posted on 03/03/2008 11:23:35 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: greyfoxx39

I have a simple solution.....

Why don’t they just let the heathens imbibe in their hot caffinated beverages during polling and then simply hold a rededication ceremony afterward to cleanse the premises like they do after a Temple tour?

:-)


18 posted on 03/03/2008 11:25:27 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: colorcountry

LOL...works for me.


19 posted on 03/03/2008 11:26:49 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
No caffeine? I know plenty of LDS people who drink cola drinks.

What a crock of bull. There is not any food we probably eat that is not in some way harmful is some way. This is just another rule placed to test how much power they have over the flock. Not working.

20 posted on 03/03/2008 11:27:03 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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