Posted on 02/29/2008 7:10:19 PM PST by Plane_Guy
Q Can I ask one quick clarification, Ms. Payton? I just want to be sure that I understood this correctly. It's fair to say that the possibility of this creating jobs in the United States was not a factor in your selection process; correct?
MS. PAYTON: That's correct.
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American companies will be driven our of business. By the way GM is paying $14.00 and hour with no benefits to new hires. Also, American Axle just settled a strike where they tried to make existing workers take a 65% pay cut...new hire will receive the same as GM workers. This is not good for the country. American companies are on the ropes and their government as usual gives them the shaft-typical.
You know what, plenty of Repubs employed in manufacturing are going to have to consider Obama because the Repubs are destroying our livelihood. When the US government sends jobs overseas that is unacceptable.
I am a conservative, and I see the handwriting on the wall. Why do you think Obama and Hillary are having a fight to the death over NAFTA? Free trade which has not worked well for the average American is disliked by a large percentage of the country. This is an issue that can be used to defeat McCain. I don’t like McCain anyway so I don’t care. As usual the Repubs are tone deaf-with the survival instincts of lemmings.
Let’s see, being that the link you provided is the Seattle times, what’s reported in there is to be taken with a large grain of salt since they’re more than likely biased FOR the “home team”.
Second, the article is false in saying that only 1500 jobs will be created in Alabama.
There are 230 companies in 40+ states that are going to create at least 14,000 new jobs for this project.
More like the plane that Airbus HAS built and is currently in testing.
And the damn KC767 ISN’T a derivative of another model?
Oh yeah the GOP lined their pockets with the deal....You’re starting to sound like one of those unhinged ron paul supporters or a poster on DU.
The new tanker IS CREATING JOBS....CAN’T YOU READ?
IT’S MORE THAN 1500 JOBS!!!
Talking to you is like talking to a ron paul supporter or worse a liberal.
California alone GAINS 7500 jobs because of this deal.
Alabama GAINS 7000 jobs.
Florida gains 2000
Other states gain an average of around 2000 jobs.
The wings are going to be made in Tennessee and Alabama.
The metals for the airframe will be produced in at least 3 different states.
Same goes for the engines, landing gear, refueling equipment, avionics, etc, etc, etc.
For the LAST TIME 230 companies in over 40 states benefit from the new tanker deal.
Get it through your head, and read something other than some Seattle liberal snot rag paper.
“You know what, plenty of Repubs employed in manufacturing are going to have to consider Obama because the Repubs are destroying our livelihood. When the US government sends jobs overseas that is unacceptable.”
Oh BS!
The Republicans are not the ones destroying your livelihood...It’s the damn corrupt unions that are sending the jobs overseas.
Unions are now accepting 14.00 per hour and no benefits. What more can they do? Sending jobs overseas in wrong. For the Feds to do this is disgusting.
Prove it. Show me anywhere it says that not the bid but the actual contract.
Jeff Sessions admitted on Lou Dobbs on Friday that the planes will be assembled in Alabama. These new jobs you speak of do not exist. I know it’s hard to believe that our government would award a contract with so little reward and with complete disregard for the American workers, but they did. Of course, we don’t know what they received from Airbus in the way of incentives for themselves or their campaigns-they certainly did not get jobs. If all the jobs you say we are getting existed people would not be so upset. Think what you want. The truth will become evident in the days ahead.
Hey... I could care less if France(Airbus), Mongolia, China, Egypt, etc. makes the airframe. As long as the contract is legit and from trustworthy companies and the Air Force believes the offer to be better than Boeing; the government has vetted the deal and all parties were given a fair opportunity... I have no qualms about it.
I simply want the best products for our military. I sincerely hope that each time the U.S. bid is the strongest, but if not than so be it.
The unions are the ones responsible.
But what can the unions do? How about stop holding an axe over the heads of the companies for starters.
Second they should stop ripping off those employees they claim to “represent”.
Another thing the unions are responsible for is the American work ethic going down the crapper over the past 50 years. Why should a worker make an effort at working hard and putting pride into what they do when all they have to do is meet some puny quota for the day knowing full well that they can get away with slacking off and not worry about being fired because of the union?
The unions make it so companies can not compete by demanding too much while not giving anything in return.
Hunter: Northrop Grumman-EADS Data Shows Air Force Decision Would Cause Substantial Job Loss in the United States
March 3, 2008
Contact: Josh Holly-202.226.3988
Hunter: Northrop Grumman-EADS Data Shows Air Force Decision Would Cause Substantial Job Loss in the United States
Washington D.C. – House Armed Services Committee Ranking Republican Duncan Hunter (R-CA) today criticized the Air Force’s decision to award the KC-45A tanker contract to Northrop Grumman-European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS). In the following statement, Hunter points to the negative impact the Air Force’s decision will have on American workers and local communities:
“Northrop Grumman-EADS claims that the Airbus tanker will be made domestically. However, by Northrop Grumman-EADS’ own data, only 58 percent of the new plane and its components will be built in the United States.
“Northrop Grumman-EADS further claims that 27,000 new jobs will be created domestically.
“Comparatively, Boeing’s 776 tanker is 85 percent built in the United States.
“The direct impact of the Air Force’s decision is not an increase of 27,000 new jobs, as Northrop Grumman-EADS claims, but a loss of 12,570 American jobs.
“Furthermore, local communities throughout America will lose a total of one hundred thousand jobs over the period of the contract since billions of American taxpayer dollars will now flow to Europe.”
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http://Republicans.ArmedServices.House.Gov/
“The comparable Boeing airframe will get shut down. It will result in lost jobs on the west coast and it will result in lost income multiplier for the United States because the Boeing airframe had many more components made and assembled in the United States than the Airbus airframe does.”
1.) The 767 line was being shut down anyways in order to build the 787 “Dreamliner”
2.) Boeing said that the employees would be transferred to other production lines within the company IE NO JOBS LOST.
3.) Check your facts since most of Boeing’s parts are made overseas in places like china and are shipped to Boeing for assembly.
4.) Boeing only had 8 companies on board for the tanker program. EADS on the other hand has over 230 AMERICAN companies on the tanker program making items such as the wings, engines, landing gear, refueling equipment, avionics, etc.
You obviously don’t work at Boeing, sally.
Yup
http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2008/03/06/salvaging-the-stimulus-package.aspx
Excerpt:
Where America once dealt from a position of strength, and might still be doing so, it is now indefensibly vulnerable to the likes of Ahmadinejad and Chavez. And at some point, either this current generation or its posterity will either fix these blunders or pay dearly for such shortsightedness.
Things are much the same on the manufacturing front. During his run for the Presidency, Congressman Duncan Hunter (R.-CA), perhaps the only true conservative to have entered the race, told of a critical component of American “smart bombs” that has been purchased from Switzerland.
At some point during the Iraq war, the Swiss decided that as a result of their opposition to U.S. actions, they would no longer sell the part. From a military perspective, this act was no less effective or devastating than a surgical bombing of an American munitions factory, rendering it incapable of further production.
Posing comparable risks, but on a far wider scale, American refineries and mills are no longer building, growing, and modernizing to the degree necessary to maintain an ongoing production of day-to-day commodities, but are falling instead into disrepair and eventual ruin. As such, they will eventually be in no condition to suddenly ramp up production in the event that a truly large scale conflict emerges on the world scene.
(snip)
one issue has often been left out of the national discussion: the deterioration of our industrial base. More than three million manufacturing jobs have been lost over the last eight years alone and, for the first time since 1950, fewer than 14 million Americans are employed by domestic manufacturers.
Consider these figures alongside our annual global trade deficit of $815.6 billion, and it is clear that today’s workers are losing to foreign competitors. The rapid decline of our industrial strength, once called the “arsenal of democracy,” can be attributed to bad trade policies that severely disadvantage our workers.
- Duncan Hunter
http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2008/03/06/nafta-accountability-act.aspx
NAFTA Accountability Act
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Neither do you sissy.
Don’t worry, sally here knows of what she speaks. Those 37,000 US jobs we would have used in manufacturing military fuel tankers over the next decade would have kept Wichita as a major player in aerospace manufacturing, as it has been for a 100 years. But there won’t be any production job losses, because they won’t have to hire them now. And all those engineers and techies slated to work on the project, well, we could all use more diversity coaches and insurance salesmen.
I thought you were sissy?
::ducks!::
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