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Gov. Urges Richard Sentence Review (NM-Iraq veteran shoots car thief)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | February 29, 2008 | T.J. Wilham And Scott Sandlin

Posted on 02/29/2008 9:33:59 AM PST by CedarDave

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I have to agree with the judge here -- I think the prison term is justified. This is in contrast to the Otereo County sheriff's officer who also received jail time after shooting the POS who shot and killed his partner in front of him after also killing a pregnant woman.

1 posted on 02/29/2008 9:34:01 AM PST by CedarDave
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If the guy killed someone after they had fled several blocks from his property, I don't see how he could legally escape jail time.
2 posted on 02/29/2008 9:36:51 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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Link to that story about the officer killing his partners killer?


3 posted on 02/29/2008 9:37:50 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing Murtha and his fellow Defeatists want.)
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I’m hunt it up and get back to you.


4 posted on 02/29/2008 9:38:31 AM PST by CedarDave (Dear John, Why do you criticize Republicans and conservatives but give Obama and Hillary a pass?)
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In the State of Washington and given these facts, you can do just that if you first tell a fleeing felon to stop or you will shoot. Ironically, a law enforcement officer cannot do the same.


5 posted on 02/29/2008 9:42:08 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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Have to start storing the car in the house.


6 posted on 02/29/2008 9:45:02 AM PST by Waco
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There is one thing for sure, that guy will never try to steal someone’s car again.


7 posted on 02/29/2008 9:50:41 AM PST by ANGGAPO ( is for the oil.)
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Are you nuts?

One is a heroic veteran.

The other was a scumbag thief who got exactly what he deserved.

The judge should be recalled immediately. Defense of private property is as sacred a right as self-defense.


8 posted on 02/29/2008 9:50:51 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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It figures an authoritarian-statist JBT boot-licker like you would back up the authorities on this one.


9 posted on 02/29/2008 9:51:57 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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"...officer killing his partners killer?"

...while handcuffed. Not that many couldn't have done the same thing, under the same circumstances. But the prisoner was handcuffed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/17/national/17deputy.html

10 posted on 02/29/2008 9:54:16 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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I wouldn’t presume to speak for the law or for others, but I personally wouldn’t want to to have to live with having shot someone who was fleeing. If I read this right, the attempted theft was foiled so the thief didn’t have any of the guy’s property. On the other hand, the guy was a victim when the thief came after his stuff.


11 posted on 02/29/2008 9:54:33 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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He’d do time in Texas too. If someone had actually stolen your vehicle (in Texas) AND you were in “fresh pursuit” AND you were reasonable certain you could not later recover you stolen moveable property THEN you could use deadly force.


12 posted on 02/29/2008 9:55:46 AM PST by MGBGUN (Freedom is not free.)
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Officer Convicted, but Still Seen as Hero After Videotaped Shooting
13 posted on 02/29/2008 9:57:26 AM PST by CedarDave (Dear John, Why do you criticize Republicans and conservatives but give Obama and Hillary a pass?)
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It figures an authoritarian-statist JBT boot-licker like you would back up the authorities on this one.

That's not much of an argument in favor of Richard's position.

The law says you cannot chase after someone and then kill them blocks away from your property.

And the grounds of such a law are pretty rational.

Someone could get into an argument with someone else in a parking lot, shoot them, and then say; "I just chased this guy ten blocks from my house - I saw him casing my place!"

14 posted on 02/29/2008 9:57:55 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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I’ll take the word of a heroic veteran.


15 posted on 02/29/2008 9:59:25 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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THe man had been armed with a deadly weapon ~ who knew what else he might have had. It's necessary to track down a thief under these circumstances and detain him lest he return at a later time to kill you because you are an eye-witness.

The thief didn't wish to be detained; therefore it was OK to shoot him.

That's the way I see it. Self-defense, end to end.

Surprised they had a judge on this case who is unable to think like a crook ~

16 posted on 02/29/2008 10:02:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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Are you nuts? One is a heroic veteran. The other was a scumbag thief who got exactly what he deserved. The judge should be recalled immediately. Defense of private property is as sacred a right as self-defense.

Then this part of the sentence, left out above because of excerpt limitations, will frost you too (and I disagree with the judge on this):

The judge also ordered Richard to pay Romero's family $500 a month in restitution for five years.

17 posted on 02/29/2008 10:06:50 AM PST by CedarDave (Dear John, Why do you criticize Republicans and conservatives but give Obama and Hillary a pass?)
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Who knows what that nutcase was capable of. Sheriff's alone, no back up, babies all over the place, kid crying, dead bodies up the yingyang, and it's time to secure the area.

First, shoot the camera.

18 posted on 02/29/2008 10:07:20 AM PST by muawiyah
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The judge is mentally unstable. Time to remove him.


19 posted on 02/29/2008 10:09:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Albuquerque Journal reader poll:

Do you think 2 years in prison was enough in the Elton John Richard II case?

20 posted on 02/29/2008 10:09:49 AM PST by CedarDave (Dear John, Why do you criticize Republicans and conservatives but give Obama and Hillary a pass?)
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