Noam Chomsky vs. William F. Buckley Debate (1969 Debate: WFB is Brilliant!)

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[SoFloFreeper]

From 1969, but still very relavent today. (sic)

[SoFloFreeper]

WFB mentions terrorism two or three times in this video...and his analysis and dissection of Chomsky's selective account of history is awesome.

Two parts in this video from YOUTUBE. Thanks to the person who posted it.

[Sam's Army]

I have watched this series before. Outstanding. I wish more WFB stuff was on youtube.

[Ditto]

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[oyez]

Thanks. I’ll see it later.

[oyez]

I remember that the local PBS would put Firing Line in the 2:00 AM Sunday slot. They never wanted to make it a convenient program to watch.

[april15Bendovr]

I loved that look he gave when winking at Chomsky knowing he was right. He would often politely do this as a gentleman engaging his opponents almost as if he was charmingly saying “I hear ya but you don't have all the facts. Now please listen to what I have to say."

[penelopesire]

Bookmark! Great Post! Can’t wait to watch it.

[kublia khan]

Thank you, I’d pay good money to see chumpsky get his a$$ kicked no matter who was doing the kicking.

[DManA]

Check out 2:34 where Chomsky claims the Nazis were attempting to advance Christian spiritual civilization. He lives in Bizzaro world.

[brownsfan]

What is up with you? Permanent ban, yet posting from proxy. Lots of legalese in your profile.

You must be poison?

[ketsu]

Check out 2:34 where Chomsky claims the Nazis were attempting to advance Christian spiritual civilization. He lives in Bizzaro world.

The rivival of Christian civilization(as the Nazis saw it) was one of the Nazis main platforms. It's conveniently forgotten but much of the Nazi movement and ideology was protestant in origin(the Nazis hated the catholics). They had all sorts of funny beliefs like "Jesus was the first anti-semite" and Luther was the first Nazi etc... this link has some background.

[mware]

Off topic but just a heads up Fox News is going to do a special on William F Buckley tomorrow evening. I believe 10 PM (EST)

[Recon Dad]

“I hear ya but you don’t have all the facts. Now please listen to what I have to say.”

Or as I quote him below........

I would like to take you seriously but to do so would affront your intelligence.

William F. Buckley Jr

[DManA]

B.S.

[ketsu]

B.S.

You can believe it or not. The Nazis saw themselves as the saviors of Western Civilization.

[7thson]

It took awhile for the video to load up so I started reading some of the comments. Very bizzare, to say the least. I thought both WFB and Chomsky did a fair job of attempting to interrupt the other. I did catch the moment where Chomsky stated the Nazi's were attempting to advance Christian beliefs. Regardless what another Freeper here posted, that is pure BS. Hitler and the Nazi leadership were heavy into the German mythology.

I do not have the historical knowledge that both men possess so I don't know who's facts are off or what. But I do know one thing. Chomsky gives a pass to any type of Communist or socialist intervention but is always quick to condemn American intervention. He mentions numerous Latin American countries where we have sent troops over the decades but never states that we are not there now. While at the time of this debate, where communism has sprouted, it stays. And there is no tolerance for debate.

Those on youtube who state Chomsky won and agrees that America is a bad place seem to have the fact escape them that there was no Chomsky in any Soviet or Chicom controlled country. If America is as bad as Chomsky and his followers claim, then our government would have locked him and his followers up long ago.

Another thing that is interesting about this debate is there is no knowledge of Venona at this time. The Venona transcripts - and what little we have learned from the KGB's own files after the fall of Soviet Russia - indicates that Chomsky should have been just as upset with the Soviet Union as he was with the United States.

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[Captain Pike]

The rivival of Christian civilization(as the Nazis saw it) was one of the Nazis main platforms.

The Nazi's paid lip service to Christianity. They paid all religious ministers a salary from the state, and used that to force them to say what they wanted them to say.

If you delve deeply enough into Nazi spiritualism, they wanted a revival of pre-Christian pagan faiths. They saw Catholicism and Christianity as the same thing, and wanted paganism. They didn't admit this too freely, afraid of immediate rejection by the people, similar to how the left today attacks Christianity around the edges, but doesn't come right out and admit to their desire to end it entirely.

You should read the new book "Liberal Fascism" by Goldberg, who looks into Nazi and Fascist ideology spiritualism very closely.

[steve86]

What are you talking about? Also, I didn’t say I agreed with Chomsky.