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The local cops n' robbers TV chick strikes again. Please have at it...
1 posted on 02/29/2008 5:32:12 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: Joe Brower

I thought it already was illegal to sell any handgun ammo that would penetrate body armor?


2 posted on 02/29/2008 5:32:56 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner

The copy reads like it was written by an eighth-grader.


3 posted on 02/29/2008 5:36:17 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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It’s a 12ga flechette round, been around for years, used by military in Nam for snipers in trees. Flechettes spread but penetrate foliage well.


6 posted on 02/29/2008 5:39:06 AM PST by E.Allen
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" ... "If stopping an intruder in your home is your goal, this isn't the first or second ammo you should choose, its way down the list," said Hill ... "


Thanks Brian.


I reckon I'll stay with my 870 loaded with 00Buck, and aim just below the head.

Wouldn't want to hurt anyone with darts.

7 posted on 02/29/2008 5:40:02 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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Gee Lori, this is just horrible.

But why didn’t you tell us who makes this ammo and in what calibers.

Oh, and just to make sure the readers don’t miss the point, let me stress one more time... “The ad for the ammunition says it shoots dozens of steel darts that cause unbelievable trauma.”

Poor baby. No doubt a victim of the Imperial Federal Schools System.


8 posted on 02/29/2008 5:40:12 AM PST by upchuck (Who wins doesn't matter. They're all liberals. Spend your time and money to take back Congress.)
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I thought this was gonna be about blended metal bullets

There was a thread about them on FR a year or so back. Very impressive results with these!

9 posted on 02/29/2008 5:40:33 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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Bullets fired from guns are dangerous !!!!!!

10 posted on 02/29/2008 5:43:11 AM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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BE EXTRA, EXTRA CAREFUL ! ! !

11 posted on 02/29/2008 5:43:56 AM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: OKSooner
Try the new .825 handgun ammo. It won't penetrate a vest, but it does have knockdown power.


.44 mag on left and .357 mag on right.

13 posted on 02/29/2008 5:48:54 AM PST by umgud
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“DON’T PENETRATE ME, BRO’!”


14 posted on 02/29/2008 5:49:14 AM PST by TADSLOS ( McCain-Feingold: "Good for thee but not for me"- John McCain)
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The ammunition is legal, it's just a reminder the dangerous new threats police officers constantly face.

I get sooo sick of hearing about threats to the police. They're a lot safer in their jobs than a lot of other professions. Often police work doesn't even make the top ten for dangerous professions, and is always beaten by construction work, landscape work, truck driving, commercial fishing, and electrical work, just to name the few I can remember.

Further who cares? Why should threats to police be any more worrysome than threats to anyone else? Is somehow the death of a convenience store clerk or a cab driver less important than the death of a cop? Do they mean less to their families? Are they second class citizens because they aren't government minions?

I once did the statistics for police work vs an ordinary citizen on both Baltimore and Detroit. It turned out that you had a higher chance of getting murdered if you weren't a cop in both of these places. So for at least Detroit and Baltimore police work was safer than being an average citizen.

16 posted on 02/29/2008 5:52:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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What’s it called?

I need to BLOAT some of that to add to my Black Talon collection...


17 posted on 02/29/2008 5:56:14 AM PST by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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I really hate those sweeps months reports.


18 posted on 02/29/2008 5:59:08 AM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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“The ammunition is legal...”

Second to last sentence. So try to ban it, you Nanny Staters. The Bad Guys will still have it.


21 posted on 02/29/2008 6:07:39 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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Another predecessor article and warning memo from the “anti-gun” fraternal order of police unions, next will be more legislation preventing Americans access to this dangerous, evil, life threatening and cop killing ammo>

It is amazing that no tests have been conducted, and all of the claims that this ammo will do is strictly conjecture> Kind of reminds me of when this company made a handgun ammo that claimed to pierce bullet proof vests, and anti gun Schumer immediately introduced a Senate Bill to out law the ammo. In the end, the ammo was a joke, it never existed! By the way, the law outlawing the ammo is still on the books.

First scare the hell out of everyone, get the public on board against the “cop killing ammo” then when the legislature outlaws it, the public doesn’t care.

Boil that frog a little at a time, never all at once, it will jump out of the pan.

22 posted on 02/29/2008 6:07:59 AM PST by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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The ammunition is legal, it's just a reminder the dangerous new threats police officers constantly face.

wow.. just a reminder... buses and bad drivers are dangerous too, and so are little old ladies in wheel chairs, 7 year old boys and girls, the flu, airplanes and lightning strikes.
27 posted on 02/29/2008 6:19:47 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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***The ad for the ammunition says it shoots dozens of steel darts that cause unbelievable trauma. ***

Too late! This ammo has been around since the early 1960’s! If you reload .12 Guage, just fill it with finishing nails instead of lead shot.


35 posted on 02/29/2008 6:42:36 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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The object of tactical doctrine and training is not to get shot in the first place. As NASA says, any plan that starts off assuming Option #2 will be used is a plan that doesn’t give proper respect to Option #1.

Lastly, I am somewhat dubious about the amount of energy in the components of a disbursed projectile. There is only so much energy in total that a powder charge can impart. Multiple projectiles must share that energy. A three-dart “bullet” would only impart 1/3 of the total energy on each dart. Why would such a dart have superior penetrating ability as compared to a single bullet carrying the total energy of the powder charge?

37 posted on 02/29/2008 6:44:23 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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The ammunition is legal, it's just a reminder the dangerous new threats police officers constantly face.

It depends where you live. It was legal in one state I lived it, but not in another that I moved to. Of course, it was legal for the military and police to have it. Big fear was that it might penetrate a protective vest. Not sure if it was ever tested...

41 posted on 02/29/2008 7:01:10 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (In the land of Clinton, where the shadows lie...)
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The ammunition is legal, it's just a reminder the dangerous new threats police officers constantly face.

I think I'm gonna cry...as a citizen of the un-vested masses...

43 posted on 02/29/2008 7:09:14 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Choose Liberty over slavery... the gulag awaits ANY compromise with evil...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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