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Government warns owners about Fords (~4.6 million Ford vehicles subject to recall; engine fires)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/28/08 | Ken Thomas - ap

Posted on 02/28/2008 12:34:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The government on Thursday warned owners of about 4.6 million recalled Ford vehicles to bring their cars and trucks immediately to dealerships to disconnect cruise control switch systems that have been linked to engine fires.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued the consumer advisory to the owners of certain unrepaired Ford, Lincoln and Mercury sport utility vehicles, pickup trucks, vans and passenger cars who have not yet responded to past recalls.

The recalls have vexed the Dearborn, Mich.-based automaker, affecting its popular F-Series pickup trucks, prompting hundreds of complaints and dozens of lawsuits over engine fires. Three deaths have been tied to the fires and Ford has struggled to produce enough parts to fix the problem.

About 9.6 million Ford vehicles have been recalled since 1999 and about 5 million have been fixed, raising concerns about the remaining vehicles on the road. NHTSA said they have received about 60 complaints of engine fires in the Ford vehicles since August 2007.

Ford said they supported the action and dealers would soon offer a more permanent fix.

"We absolutely want everybody to come in as soon as they can because we can eliminate the risk of fire for anyone with a vehicle in this recall," said Ford Motor Co. spokesman Wes Sherwood. He said the company would have an "ample supply" of the replacement parts by June.

NHTSA said many dealers will disconnect the cruise control switches as a "drive through" service so owners do not have to leave their vehicles at the dealership or schedule an appointment.

Dealers have installed a fused wiring harness into the speed control electrical system as part of the recall, but replacement parts have not been widely available. Owners can take their vehicle to a dealer to have the cruise control deactivated until the parts arrive.

NHTSA issued a lengthy list of older vehicles covered by the consumer advisory, including 1993-2004 Ford F150 trucks, 1994-2002 F250 through F550 Super Duty trucks with gasoline engines, and 1998-2001 Ford Explorer and Mercury Mountaineer SUVs, all of which were among the best-selling vehicles in the nation during those years.

A complete list was available at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/.

The Ford recalls have run into problems. Earlier this month, the automaker recalled about 225,000 vehicles that had already been repaired because some wiring harnesses appeared to be defective.

Ford also faces more than 100 lawsuits nationwide because of fires linked to the cruise control deactivation switch. Many owners have alleged the fires began after the vehicles were turned off and there have been three deaths attributed to that problem in Iowa, Georgia and Arkansas.

Last week, Ford was able to consolidate 77 lawsuits filed in Texas so a single judge can handle pretrial discovery.

Ford has said its internal investigations have found the fires did not cause deaths and injuries.

"In the cases where there was that allegation, we found that the source of the fire was unrelated to the vehicle," said Ford spokeswoman Kristen Kinley.

For additional details, owners can call Ford at (888) 222-2751.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; fordmotor; fords; government; nhtsa; owners; recall; warns
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1 posted on 02/28/2008 12:34:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

“What a revolting development this is!”

-Chester A. Riley


2 posted on 02/28/2008 12:36:15 PM PST by RexBeach ("Americans never quit." Douglas MacArthur)
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About 9.6 million Ford vehicles have been recalled since 1999 and about 5 million have been fixed, raising concerns about the remaining vehicles on the road. NHTSA said they have received about 60 complaints of engine fires in the Ford vehicles since August 2007.

NHTSA issued a lengthy list of older vehicles covered by the consumer advisory, including 1993-2004 Ford F150 trucks, 1994-2002 F250 through F550 Super Duty trucks with gasoline engines, and 1998-2001 Ford Explorer and Mercury Mountaineer SUVs, all of which were among the best-selling vehicles in the nation during those years.

A complete list was available at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/.


3 posted on 02/28/2008 12:36:16 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

Does Toyota have a lot of recalls?


4 posted on 02/28/2008 12:38:25 PM PST by RabidBartender
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To: RabidBartender

Yup.


5 posted on 02/28/2008 12:39:05 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: NormsRevenge

And this why once I finally get my own car I’ll be buying Japanese. Hell Japanese car companies tend to create more jobs in this country than American car companies.


6 posted on 02/28/2008 12:41:25 PM PST by utherdoul
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To: NormsRevenge

I had this done on my 2002 Ranger last fall. The fuse link took 5 minutes and I was outta there.


7 posted on 02/28/2008 12:42:39 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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Thanks, sounds like a quick fix..

I hate it when wiring harnesses go bad..


8 posted on 02/28/2008 12:44:45 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge
Ford Fire
9 posted on 02/28/2008 12:45:04 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

for a brief moment, thought I saw OJ trapped inside..


10 posted on 02/28/2008 12:46:14 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

It was a plug and play deal and my dealer said they were doing 100 or more every day.


11 posted on 02/28/2008 12:49:18 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I have an F150 that was on the recall. I must have received a notice a month until I took it in to get fixed.

It took about 15 minutes while I waited. I watched and it is a pretty straightforward splice job.


12 posted on 02/28/2008 12:50:23 PM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Slapshot68

Fewer than Ford, and far fewer that result in fires of this scale.

This isn’t a case of a bad supplier part, either, this is a case of truly stupid design - for example, why the HECK would you leave the cruise control system powered when the car is turned off? Only Ford knows why they adopted that “standard” across the board.

And now Fords are burning.


13 posted on 02/28/2008 12:51:11 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is old news. Ford doesn’t make the switch, it’s sourced from an Asian supplier most likely.


14 posted on 02/28/2008 12:52:42 PM PST by 38special (I mean come on.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I quit buying Ford when my Mercury Sable engine and tranny only lasted 145,000 miles even after babying them


15 posted on 02/28/2008 12:54:48 PM PST by Intimidator (Its not unilateral,just try saying you're a Progressive Dem in your typical Evangelical chur)
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To: 38special

Nope. Made in USA by UAW workers. Sorry.

And if Ford didn’t 1) make the stupid decision to make the cruise control switch pressure operated by brake fluid in the master cylinder (which is a disaster waiting to happen) and 2) didn’t leave the cruise control system and therefore the switch POWERED when the vehicle is TURNED OFF, there wouldn’t actually be a fire problem.


16 posted on 02/28/2008 12:56:42 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RabidBartender

My 2003 Toyota Sequoia has had one recall. Far better than my 1993 Ford Taurus did.


17 posted on 02/28/2008 12:59:39 PM PST by guppas (Kick their ass -- Take their gas!)
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To: Spktyr

Honestly, I don’t see recalls as being all that bad. I mean, it’s more important that the manufacturer recognizes there is a problem and offers a way for it’s consumers to get it fixed at no cost.

I’d rather that than manufacturers denying that there’s a problem.

By the way, I notice that manufacturers seem to be becoming more proactive to head off full recalls with what they term as Technical Service Bulletins. I’m not sure how it works, but my local dealer explained it that if the TSB is issued promptly and are being dealt with as people bring their cars in for regular service, they can avoid recalls.


18 posted on 02/28/2008 1:05:41 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: Spktyr

O RLY? Texas Instruments employs UAW workers? That’s news to me.


19 posted on 02/28/2008 1:10:07 PM PST by 38special (I mean come on.)
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To: Slapshot68

Um, TSBs and posting them quickly is nothing new. The difference between posting a TSB and a recall is that the recall has to be honored even if the vehicle has exited warranty, the TSB is performed only on vehicles under warranty or *at the customer’s expense* if the vehicle is out of warranty.

ALL the import makers have done floods of TSBs since just after WW2. I have a nice collection of Jaguar TSBs dating back to 1947, for example. If I assemble them all in a pile, it would be 20’ tall. A friend of mine has a similar collection for old Datsuns - that collection is huge, easily 40’ of shelving there.

FYI, Ford was forced to have this recall. They intially denied that there was a fire problem and denied it for literally the better part of a decade.

The best part is that only the domestic makers are stupid enough to use hydraulic pressure switches to activate the brakes and deactivate the cruise control. Not only does this lead to problems as the switch (outside in the engine bay, exposed to the elements) ages and decays, but it also means that it is perfectly possible to apply the brakes, let off the pedal just a hair, and the BRAKE LIGHTS GO OUT. Ooops, sorry you got rear ended there, bud. And no adjustment is possible.

“Imports” all spend the extra $0.25 per car (yes, you read that right, that’s the price delta) and use switches mounted to the brake pedal *inside* the cabin. This means that there are no possible brake fluid leaks due to the switch, the switches last a lot longer, and they can be adjusted as they are *simple* button switches.

Cute, huh?


20 posted on 02/28/2008 1:12:45 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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