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Will the "Willie Effect" Impact the Election? (McCain's Attack on Cunningham Seriously Risks Ohio)
WLW 700 ^ | 28 Feb 08 | WLW

Posted on 02/28/2008 7:00:23 AM PST by xzins

Will the "Willie Effect" Impact the Election?

Some speculate the controversy could cost McCain the White House

By 700WLW News

Thursday, February 28, 2008

( Cincinnati ) -- Some reports claim the on-going controversy involving 700 WLW talk show host Bill Cunningham (Willie Cunningham) and presidential candidate John McCain has the potential to impact the results of the 2008 election.

Ohio is a key state in the presidential election. For Republicans it is essential that they win as much support as possible in southwest Ohio to counter the strong Democratic party support in the Cleveland area.

Political Science professor Jason Johnson from Hiram College spoke to the Cincinnati Enquirer and told them John McCain needs radio talk show listeners and Willie fans to go his way, "John McCain needs those people if he has any hope of winning in November."

With other national talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity rushing to Willie's defense, it widens the rift between the party's conservative base and John McCain even further, at a time when the Republican party has only recently started to solidify around the likely nominee.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: backlash; billcunningham; cunningham; husseinobama; mccain; oh2008; ohio; talkradio; wlw
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To: Dane

Up until your last few posts in which you’ve been talking about Cunningham running for office. Don’t go that way. It doesn’t work.


181 posted on 02/28/2008 8:48:57 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins

Watching this whole elections unfold is like a bad LSD trip. I feel a little like Alice in Wonderland trying to decide which candidate to vote for in the “un-election”: Obama the “Chesire Cat” Hussein, Hillary the “Queen of Hearts” Clinton, or our very own “Mad Hatter” McCain.


182 posted on 02/28/2008 8:51:01 AM PST by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: r9etb

“Are you really so caught up in your own emotions that you’re unable to look beyond them to the consequences of an Obama presidency? Just swell.”

1. I did not nominate McAmnesty

2. Boogeyman tactics work with children, not grownups. For proof of this, see the ‘06 mid terms.

3. Juanito does not deserve the job. If that creep is elected that is saying to the Repubes that his behavior over the better part of the last decade is entirely acceptable and that we wish for more, IOW “THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER”

Sorry, I for one do NOT suffer from “BBS.”


183 posted on 02/28/2008 8:51:20 AM PST by Grunthor (McCain voters believe that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: Greg F

Look, there was a PAC, called Common Sense Issues that was started and financed by McCain’s friend, Carl Lindner, a former member of the Keating 5. The PAC is basicly a political hit campaign that has worked on issues in many states around the country, manipulating conservative votes. They were responsible for most all of the negativity against Romney, Thompson and maybe Giuliani, too. Huckabee was running out of money and took money from the Common Sense Issues PAC in December. So then, the PAC had to change their filing and became, Trust Huckabee, but it is still the same group, run by the same man, Patrick Davis, and financed by McCain’s friend, Carl Lindner.


184 posted on 02/28/2008 8:53:26 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: jveritas
“Why not a public apology with McCain on his knees in front of this talk radio guy? Will this make you feel better. How about if McCain goes on knees and kiss the feet of every conservative talk radio show in the country? Will this make you very happy?”

This is impossible. Juan already blew out both knees and lost all elasticity in his lips and jowls from kissing every democrat ASS that was ever within sucking distance. I believe he keeps a sweetart in his pocket for one last pucker on Hussien’s otherwise untouchable bronze behind though.

185 posted on 02/28/2008 8:53:28 AM PST by Into the Vortex
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To: Pharmboy

Here’s what Huckabee is saying about immigration:

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=4

and taxes:

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=5

His record on the immigration issue hasn’t been fairly portrayed. For example a lot was made out of the fact that he established a Mexican consulate in Arkansas. Here is a list of Mexican consulates in the USA (businessmen like them because it helps trade):

http://www.mexonline.com/consulate.htm

In my opinion it was a bogus attack on Huck, used just to taint him by the opposition campaigns. But hey, it worked!

Regarding taxes, Huckabee fought the good fight for many, many years against a Dem legislature, using things like his “tax me more fund” to make fun of the Dems:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/08/politics/main548369.shtml


186 posted on 02/28/2008 8:53:38 AM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: PsyOp; P-Marlowe
Watching this whole elections unfold is like a bad LSD trip. I feel a little like Alice in Wonderland trying to decide which candidate to vote for in the “un-election”: Obama the “Chesire Cat” Hussein, Hillary the “Queen of Hearts” Clinton, or our very own “Mad Hatter” McCain.

Grace Slick; Jefferson Airplane!!

Awesome post, PsyOp. You need to expand it into an entire article. LOL!

"...Remember what the Door Mouse said.....'Keep your head...'"

187 posted on 02/28/2008 8:53:49 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Greg F; All

“His record on the immigration issue hasn’t been fairly portrayed. For example a lot was made out of the fact that he established a Mexican consulate in Arkansas.”

For a DOLLAR. You conveniently left that part out.


188 posted on 02/28/2008 8:55:53 AM PST by Grunthor (McCain voters believe that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: Into the Vortex

This is impossible. Juan already blew out both knees and lost all elasticity in his lips and jowls from kissing every democrat ASS that was ever within sucking distance. I believe he keeps a sweetart in his pocket for one last pucker on Hussien’s otherwise untouchable bronze behind though.


That was just....excellent. Thank you for posting it.


189 posted on 02/28/2008 8:57:20 AM PST by Grunthor (McCain voters believe that it's possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.)
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To: roses of sharon
Rightwing radio has done more for us, EVERYONE here, Republicans, Conservatives, Constitutionalists, and Libertarians, for decades now, than McCain EVER has, ever. So to read posts slamming men who have worked hard all their lives for the Right, just to defend a man who has NEVER lifted a finger for the RIGHT, is sickening.

What is sickening is that "working hard for the RIGHT" now has more value in some circles than fighting a war and trying to win another war for America.

190 posted on 02/28/2008 8:59:37 AM PST by Polybius
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To: xzins
Bill Cunningham dominates the local talk radio scene. He is a local cult hero and restranteur. His listening audience was solely responsible for the 2004 Presidential victory over John Kerry. If Hamilton, Warren and Butler Counties (contiguous counties making up the core of 700 WLW radio) split evenly for Kerry and Bush, Ohio would have gone to Kerry and he would now be President.

McKook deserves what he gets.

191 posted on 02/28/2008 9:00:10 AM PST by anton
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To: Eva

I think you are wrong on the facts. In January Newsweek reported that both organizations said there was no connection between the Huckabee campaign and Common Sense Issues. So there wasn’t a transfer of cash from one to the other.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/88754


192 posted on 02/28/2008 9:00:17 AM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: xzins

let this be a lesson to the GOP (and dems for that matter) ... letting a small number of primary voters (swayed by the lying duplicitous media and foreign monies) determine your party’s candidate in a time of war much less anytime is a risky scheme..

The odds the StraighTalk Express is blown off the road by its own self-generated winds of chutzpah are pretty darn good.. imo.


193 posted on 02/28/2008 9:01:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

The primaries leave a lot to be desired. To live up to their name, the pubbies would have us be voting for delegates, who would then get together and decide on the best nominee for the nation.

We wouldn’t be voting for “committed” delegates. We’d be voting for men and women we trust to make a good choice. We wouldn’t be voting for a candidate.

Wouldn’t that be more “republican?”


194 posted on 02/28/2008 9:09:05 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Greg F
I heard him WITH MY OWN EARS in a debate where he DEFENDED paying college tuition for illegals' kids in AR. And he raised taxes MANY times as governor.

End of story for me, but you please believe what you want. And further, I think that this country has had enough ex-governors from Arkansas.

195 posted on 02/28/2008 9:17:11 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Grunthor

Suit yourself, junior.


196 posted on 02/28/2008 9:17:33 AM PST by r9etb
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To: jveritas

If he wants to win, he will have to get the base fired up. With 6 million raised for Congressional battles, the RINOS are headed for oblivion. They (including McCain) NEED conservative money and workers. The Demons have 35 million banked. For McCain to continue trashing conservatives will result in more feeble fund raising. Independents and Demons aren’t going make up the difference.


197 posted on 02/28/2008 9:18:28 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: xzins

LOL, you put the blame on McCain???

Bill C. is the self-important poser ... and a dangerous one at that. This was clearly all intended by him before he made an ass of himself. Now he’s in the spotlight.


198 posted on 02/28/2008 9:25:01 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: r9etb
So it's not the fault of conservatives that they have squandered their authority and influence to the point where we can't even field a viable candidate? "Blame somebody else" is awfully easy -- but really, it's just proof that we're our own worst enemies.

While what you say is true, it's not the fault of conservatives the Bush has installed RINOs who have kept them out of the RNC leadership. That process has denied conservative candidates of GOP support, indeed the GOP has actively worked AGAINST conservative candidates. Bret Schundler comes to mind; so does Pat Toomey, Bill Simon, Matt Salmon, etc.

An accelerated version of the process is what Schwarzenegger has done to the California GOP, which came within 360,000 votes of electing a conservative governor in 2002 but for Carl Rove's appointees having submarined that campaign. Since then, after fighting conservatives when they successfully instigated the recall, they foisted Schwarzenegger over conservative objections. Shwarzenegger totally starved every down ticket conservative in the last election. Now the party is in debt, totally disorganized, and the RINOs offer that the reason is that we need more of the same while they rig crooked deals to loot the state and bring eventual ruin when the GOP takes the blame for getting caught.

The point is that conservatism would look a heck of a lot stronger had the RNC not fought with us at every step. Our congressional results would look better. Our ability to field a national candidate would be greatly enhanced. For that we CAN blame the RNC and the President in particular. Leadership matters. While it is true that we get the leaders we allow, it is foolish not to acknowledge that the forces arrayed against us are real, they are powerful, and they are accountable.

199 posted on 02/28/2008 9:31:29 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, kill them, or die.)
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To: LWalk18

“So, in other words, conservatives are so upset that McCain criticized Cunningham for his speech about Obama, a man presumedly they do not want to become president, that they will stay home on election day to the point where they will allow Obama to win anyway?”

Bizarre aint it?

But not a bizarre as getting a guy on board your campaign and then the first moment he speaks on your behalf running to the same press that smeared you a few days before and apologizing for comments towards a candidate who have gotten overly favorable press treatment, over comments almost nobody would know about if McCain himself hadnt made a stink about it.

McCain has, once again, shown exactly why conservatives distrust him. He is meaner to us than he is to the most liberal member of the US Senate. Did he have to be so derogatory towards Bill Cunningham? Cunningham went out of his way to reach out to McCain, and McCain slaps him down?!?

Perhaps McCain could have distanced himself from specific comments without being so over-the-top in his language. Perhaps he could have avoided making a big deal of it. Lots of stuff is said on campaigns. Hillary is doing 10X more than this guy did.

If he dismisses supporting conservatives, yet wont abide a ‘disparagement’ of Obama, one is left wondering what exactly he wants us to do. Stay home on election day?

I said this about Fred Thompson in the fall: I cannot want this man to be President any more than he wants himself to be President. If McCain wants to be President, he has to go after Obama and he has to be comfortable with conservative allies who do the same in their own way. Nothing Cunningham said was beyond the pale, and for McCain to suggest it was leaves us .... where?

“they will allow Obama to win anyway?”

The question is: Will McCain allow Obama to win through his failure to rally the base by talking down to it and his attempt to take off the table the real questions about Barack Hussein Obama and his record, marxist pals, Muslim roots, left-liberal views, distorted bio and non-accomplishments? In other words the ‘peeling the bark’ that Cunningham spoke of, does McCain want to lose to Obama due to the fact that he doesnt want that peeling done?


200 posted on 02/28/2008 9:32:29 AM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative)
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