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Bad ppublicity for the Wind industry.

Some of the energy should be strored as mechanical energy (perhaps pumping water uphill?) to be used for times like this.

1 posted on 02/28/2008 4:59:13 AM PST by Mikey_1962
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To: Mikey_1962

Someone tell the eco-nuts about this story yet? And yet they don’t want anything like, say, nuclear power.


2 posted on 02/28/2008 5:01:49 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Mikey_1962
Uphill? In West Texas?


3 posted on 02/28/2008 5:02:08 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Loss of wind causes Texas power grid emergency

Wow...with all the windbags down there? Unbelievable!!! (ROTFLMAO)

5 posted on 02/28/2008 5:05:47 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Mikey_1962
Bad publicity for the Wind industry.

Perhaps, but what did they expect? You can regulate output on fossil and nuclear plants, as well as hydro plants, but wind doesn't allow for a lot of regulation. If it isn't blowing, you can't generate. You can't store wind either, though pumped hydro is an option (as you mention).

6 posted on 02/28/2008 5:08:25 AM PST by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: Mikey_1962

You need some inexpensive backup generators that use fossil fuels if you are going to have wind generation.

Or a regional grid large enough that you can virtually assure wind power from somewhere will be operating at capacity.

Heck, if you knew the wind was going to blow all the time, wind generation would already be feasible, just like hydroelectric power. The reason wind costs so much is that you have to overbuild capacity and provide backups.


11 posted on 02/28/2008 5:30:01 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mikey_1962

On the other hand, half of florida went black for a while a couple of nights ago because of an incident at a nuclear facility.

Pretty much any generating plant CAN experience failure of some sort which requires rebalancing the grid or having blackouts.


12 posted on 02/28/2008 5:31:32 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mikey_1962

In a related note, bean supplies are at historic highs.


13 posted on 02/28/2008 5:33:12 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Mikey_1962

Considering both the economics and thermodynamics, wind energy is a bad alternative. The cost per kilowatt of electricity from a wind generator is almost 4 times that of a nuclear plant and any schemes to “save” wind energy by “storing” it in the form of air pressure, falling water etc. are hopelessly inefficient due to thermodynamic losses. Like corn ethanol, wind energy is a feel good boondoggle that does little or nothing to provide for our long term energy needs.


18 posted on 02/28/2008 6:09:32 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Mikey_1962

My fear is the “Global Slowing” caused by these wind farms.

Think about it, a fast wind is needed to turn the blades and then you have slow wind exiting the blades.

If we slow the wind down to make electricity then the Earth will stop rotating fast enough to keep spinning in orbit!

We are Doomed! DOOMED!

</ sarcasm off>


29 posted on 02/28/2008 9:44:49 AM PST by BigSkyDream
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