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Mega-Church Pastor in Texas Backs McCain (John Hagee)
NY Times ^ | 2/27/08

Posted on 02/27/2008 7:44:16 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

February 27, 2008, 6:22 pm

Mega-Church Pastor in Texas Backs McCain

By Elisabeth Bumiller

SAN ANTONIO — Senator John McCain got support on Wednesday from an important corner of evangelical Texas when the pastor of a San Antonio mega-church, Rev. John C. Hagee, endorsed Mr. McCain for president.

Mr. Hagee, who argues that the United States must join Israel in a preemptive, biblically prophesized military strike against Iran that will lead to the second coming of Christ, praised Mr. McCain for his pro-Israel views.

“John McCain has publicly stated his support of the state of Israel, pledging that his administration will not permit Iran to have nuclear weapons to fulfill the evil dreams of President Ahmadinejad to wipe Israel off the map,'’ Mr. Hagee said at a news conference at the Omni Hotel in San Antonio.

Mr. Hagee also praised Mr. McCain for his “solid, pro-life voting record for the past 24 years.'’

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: christianvote; evangelicals; falsegospelpreacher; hagee; mccain; megachurch; pastor; prolifevote; tx2008
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To: NRA2BFree
Since it was at the hotel, they can't say anything.

True. Liberals have always let Truth stand in the way of a good smear.

81 posted on 02/28/2008 7:25:29 AM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: mstar

It’s simple, you learn how to actually use a thing called a “search engine”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0K1GEs2gAI

Hagee is a wacko, and perhaps far worse.


82 posted on 02/28/2008 7:42:49 AM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: khnyny
Thank you for your kind response.

Anyway. . . yes, this is crazy. I don’t see how his followers could justify this.

83 posted on 02/28/2008 8:10:10 AM PST by mstar
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To: null and void

John Hagee is a raving lunatic. I wouldn’t want his endorsement if I were McCain


84 posted on 02/28/2008 8:11:09 AM PST by Intimidator (Its not unilateral,just try saying you're a Progressive Dem in your typical Evangelical chur)
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To: Intimidator
John Hagee is a raving lunatic.

And McCain isn't???

85 posted on 02/28/2008 8:18:36 AM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: null and void

I don’t recall mentioning McCain


86 posted on 02/28/2008 8:21:49 AM PST by Intimidator (Its not unilateral,just try saying you're a Progressive Dem in your typical Evangelical chur)
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To: Intimidator
I don’t recall mentioning McCain

It was the last word you used in your post:

John Hagee is a raving lunatic. I wouldn’t want his endorsement if I were McCain

87 posted on 02/28/2008 8:28:29 AM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: null and void

Fair enough, but I’ve heard John Hagee and I’m convinced he wants no other than to speed up the process of the 2nd coming of Christ and if that means nuking somebody so be it. I just don’t think McCain is that crazy, does he have a temper, sure does but that doesn’t equate to crazy in my opinion.


88 posted on 02/28/2008 8:35:05 AM PST by Intimidator (Its not unilateral,just try saying you're a Progressive Dem in your typical Evangelical chur)
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To: Intimidator
I agree that Hagee just can’t wait for the end of the world. He and Ahmadinejad are not simply cut from the same cloth, but cut with the same master pattern.

As to McCain’s sanity? I’m inclined to believe he’s insane. God knows he’s been through enough to drive most over the edge. OTOH, one would have to be a bit crazy to want to be in politics in the first place!

89 posted on 02/28/2008 8:45:06 AM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: khnyny
You clearly do not understand the Christian faith or just like to twist what he is saying. Jesus proclaimed that he was the Son of God. What Hagee is saying is factually true as Jesus did not verbally claim to be the messiah that would lead the nation against Rome. This is what Judas wanted as a zealot for Jesus to do and why Judas betrayed Him failing to see His true mission and not believing that Jesus was the Son of God. The Jews of the time were expecting a conquering messiah to begin the messianic age and rule the world. This conquering messiah to defeat all of Israel’s enemies is prophesied to come as well as the suffering messiah. Jesus first coming was the suffering messiah to atone for the sins of man. The messiah that the Jews are expecting is the second coming of Christ with the final judgment. So your contention that Hagee is a nut is just plain wrong. He just understands scripture a lot better than most who chose to play ignorant and pick and chose words and not the real meaning.

St. Peter and St.Paul explain the very same thing in detail in their letters and preaching to the Jews, that the Jews failed to recognize the messiah because He first had to die and suffer for our sins.

90 posted on 02/28/2008 8:58:51 AM PST by Mat_Helm
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To: null and void

and yet....Huckabee is the “party nominated” Jesus Freak.

Pastor Hagee endorses a guy who says’ he’s a Christian but states he wasn’t “born again” dispite what Jesus said to Nic at Night, rarely attends Church, and was also never baptised because....he’s waiting for what? his 71st birthday?

Go figure.... in other news....dogs sleeping with cats....


91 posted on 02/28/2008 9:04:05 AM PST by MP5SD
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To: null and void
I bet the dems try to have Hagee shut down.

I imagine he is one that Grassley is digging into.

92 posted on 02/28/2008 9:06:18 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: littlehouse36

Obama actually supports Fourth Trimester abortions. Just in case the third trimester abortion fails, Obama supports killing the baby after it is born.


93 posted on 02/28/2008 9:08:26 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: MP5SD
Go figure.... in other news....dogs sleeping with cats....


94 posted on 02/28/2008 9:12:40 AM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: unspun
He, also like me, probably feels that Huckabee is out and backing him this late in the game is a waste of power. Just a thought.
95 posted on 02/28/2008 9:28:12 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: fish hawk

Why back anyone?


96 posted on 02/28/2008 9:37:40 AM PST by null and void (When you vote, remember your wallet, the welfare recipients do...)
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To: Mr. Brightside
“Unfortunately, Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore..."- John McCain, 2000

Looks like Johnny's been Sunday schooled and sees the light now.

Question is, who does he feel compelled to apologize to now that Hagee has endorsed him? Gotta control those uppity supporters better, John...

97 posted on 02/28/2008 9:42:12 AM PST by TADSLOS ( McCain-Feingold: "Good for thee but not for me"- John McCain)
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To: fish hawk
He, also like me, probably feels that Huckabee is out and backing him this late in the game is a waste of power. Just a thought.

Why did Hagee feel it necessary to come out and support McCain now, at this point in the Texas primaries? If Huckabee is a non-issue, why now?

98 posted on 02/28/2008 9:42:54 AM PST by exhaustedmomma (McCain: You don't have to love him, you just have to fall in line)
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To: fish hawk
I know Hagee. He’s holding his nose just like the rest of us.

Read posts # 62, 74, & 24,

I know this, all my Hagee books are going into the burn barrel. If he is this off on not only the timing of endorsing McCain, but on the reasons he is trumpeting his endorsement... I don't trust what else he has to say.

99 posted on 02/28/2008 9:50:07 AM PST by exhaustedmomma (McCain: You don't have to love him, you just have to fall in line)
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To: Mat_Helm

He stands nearly alone in his interpetation of a dual covenant.

Vist any of the major theology forums and post that doctrine and see how far it flies.

You are “attempting” to make an argument from silence (what Jesus didn’t say)

I understand your parroting his book but unfortunaetly his view has very little scriptual support and I would be generous to call it a minority view.

He is quick to attempt to silence his critics with the “replacement theologian label” when in fact the majority of covenant theologians and dispensationalists believe that God is not yet finished with Israel, that the Church hasn’t replaced Israel, and that their salvation is through the Lord Jesus Christ. TODAY is the day of salvation.


100 posted on 02/28/2008 9:50:55 AM PST by MP5SD
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