NYT: McCain's Birthplace in Canal Zone Raises Eligibility Questions...

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[tobyhill]

Virginia was a British Colony until 1775 so I guess Washington and Adams were in violation of the Constitution? /s

[the invisib1e hand]

That's the fun thing about this story - it's what it says about the NYT, not what it says about McCain.

I've noticed that about a number of their recent doozies -- more so than ever.

[Reagan79]

The NYT is showing some serious ignorance, but I guess it’s just another day at the office for them.

[longjack]

There was a discussion about this a few weeks ago.

I raised the point about possible semantic gymnastics because, although McCain is a "citizen by birth", he is so because of a law. He would not have been a citizen at the time of the constitution, but laws enacted later gave him natural birth rights.

I asked if some would attempt to argue that he be regarded as actually a "citizen by law" because of this.

Non-Sequitur kindly answered my question Here.

His answer was that it would be difficult consider McCain anything other than a "citizen by birth", thus he fulfils the constitutional requirement.

I didn't thank Non-Sequitur because the thread had run it's course, so, although belated, thanks for your taking the time to answer my question, Non-Sequitur.

[Hoodat]

Didn’t the NYTimes endorse McCain? You would think they would have known this before endorsing him.

/sarc

[factmart]

Bill clinton did not get any big liberal laws passed.

[HawaiianGecko]

"Heck, this attack was used on Chester Alan Arthur in the 1880s— the claim was that he was born in Canada, rather than Vermont."
You mean Vermont isn't in Canada?

[pennboricua]

I think it takes 2/3 of the House and Senate and 3/4 of State legislatures plus 3/4 of states through ratifying conventions. am I right?

[jurroppi1]

beat me to it...

[Kay Ludlow]

Interesting. What are their thoughts on anchor babies?

I'm sure they know there's no such thing - an American Born citizen is an American Born citizen. The ONLY gray area is if you happen to be a Republican

[Lokibob]

“Panama was AMERICAN TERRITORY at the time.”

Wrong..
Panama has always been a country. Perhaps you are thinking about the Canal Zone being American territory. The Canal Zone was leased for 99 years from the country of Panama.

....Bob

[mplsconservative]

Bill clinton did not get any big liberal laws passed.

You are hilarious troll.

[scrabblehack]

“Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution” oovers Washington and Adams (indeed, the first 10 U.S. Presidents were born prior to the adoption of the Constitution)

[mystery-ak]

Well.....I was born in Alaska in 1951...my father USAF stationed in Anchorage..on a USAF base....mother also a US citizen....but since Alaska was a US Territory at the time I am considered a US citizen

Now....my younger sister was born in Manchester England in 1956 when my father was stationed at an RAF base there...when we returned home she became a US citizen....by going to court and proclaiming her choice for citizenship here...all at the age of 5..lol

shhhh....don’t do the math...lol

[Norman Bates]

Blue collar guys? Cool with me.

[onedoug]

...zzzzzzz....

[factmart]

Why did you join FR in 2001 and just pop up during election seasons? I checked your posting history. I think you’re a troll just trying to stir the pot.

You don’t know how to check;

Here one of them

If tomorrow Bin Laud-en wanted to have a Permanent Cease Fire and part of the terms of their surrender is that United States is to pass all John McCain ideas and legaslation. I would say hell no.

But Republicans will do exactly that by making McCain President.
We could never lose the war on terror, no matter who is president.
If Hillary wins, she would push for universal health care, but it would not get passed because Republicans would filibuster so it would not become law.

If McCain wins he would push for universal health care but it would get passed because few RINOS would go along with the Dems, (not filibuster) so it would become law.
That goes for anything that Hillary tries to pass into law.But just a few RINOS with the Dems could pass anything with McCain.

If you are Pro Life and against activist judges how can you vote for a man who was the leader of the gang of 14 and voted baby stem cell research.

[factmart]

Why did you join FR in 2001 and just pop up during election seasons? I checked your posting history. I think you’re a troll just trying to stir the pot.

You don’t know how to check;

Here one of them

If tomorrow Bin Laud-en wanted to have a Permanent Cease Fire and part of the terms of their surrender is that United States is to pass all John McCain ideas and legaslation. I would say hell no.

But Republicans will do exactly that by making McCain President.
We could never lose the war on terror, no matter who is president.
If Hillary wins, she would push for universal health care, but it would not get passed because Republicans would filibuster so it would not become law.

If McCain wins he would push for universal health care but it would get passed because few RINOS would go along with the Dems, (not filibuster) so it would become law.
That goes for anything that Hillary tries to pass into law.But just a few RINOS with the Dems could pass anything with McCain.

If you are Pro Life and against activist judges how can you vote for a man who was the leader of the gang of 14 and voted baby stem cell research.

[factmart]

Why did you join FR in 2001 and just pop up during election seasons? I checked your posting history. I think you’re a troll just trying to stir the pot.

You don’t know how to check;

Here one of them

If tomorrow Bin Laud-en wanted to have a Permanent Cease Fire and part of the terms of their surrender is that United States is to pass all John McCain ideas and legaslation. I would say hell no.

But Republicans will do exactly that by making McCain President.
We could never lose the war on terror, no matter who is president.
If Hillary wins, she would push for universal health care, but it would not get passed because Republicans would filibuster so it would not become law.

If McCain wins he would push for universal health care but it would get passed because few RINOS would go along with the Dems, (not filibuster) so it would become law.
That goes for anything that Hillary tries to pass into law.But just a few RINOS with the Dems could pass anything with McCain.

If you are Pro Life and against activist judges how can you vote for a man who was the leader of the gang of 14 and voted baby stem cell research.

[July 4th]

Until 18, you have dual citizenship. At 18, you choose. My brother was born in Venezuela to American parents. He could have been either a Venezuelan citizen or an American citizen. Just by voting in an American election made him a citizen.

America doesn't really care if you're a citizen of elsewhere, and many people are born with two nationalities and never have to choose between the two. Now, Venezuela might have cared. Some countries (like Norway, for example) don't allow it.

US law actually sucks up as many people as it can if it can make them Americans, because an American is subject to worldwide taxation. I once met someone who had British and American citizenship, and he gave up the American citizenship because he was living in the Caymans and didn't want to be one of the few people there who still had to pay an income tax. After successfully renouncing his US citizenship after great hassle, he still got mail from the IRS for several years.