Conservatives Have Stepped In It Again!

When searching for answers as to how we got here in America - here being a steadily accelerating march into Democratic Socialism - there is plenty of blame to go around. Personally, I don’t see an innocent individual in the lot.

Those who consider themselves to be the most politically astute people in America, conservatives, have once again been out-foxed by those they call ignorant. Forest Gump’s momma was right; stupid is as stupid does! Steeped in worthy principles, yes. Politically astute? You must be kidding…

America has exactly the mess of a government it deserves because it always has the government it elected. No matter which partisan group we claim our own, there is no escaping responsibility for where we are as a nation today. In reality, our messy government is a precise reflection of our very messy electorate.

But as a lifelong conservative myself, I want to focus on my conservative brethren in this column. I want to talk to my own peeps!

Before we can advance a conservative agenda in America, we will have to figure out how to advance a conservative agenda within our own party first. Conservatives are going to have to face some hard realities about how our agenda became only a fringe side-show in a nation where most of the population is actually far more conservative than the government it keeps electing.

So they keep losing and conservatives have once again positioned themselves, or allowed themselves to be positioned, to lose again in 2008. The fact is, they have done both.

Conservatives have proven themselves to be the most ineffective political constituency in America today. The track record can be summed up no other way. Although they represent the principles and values of more than 70 percent of Americans, they can’t seem to get their act together or lead that 70 percent of the country in a single direction. So, the better organized minority movement wins.

Unlike their opposition across the aisle, who not only find a way to give themselves several good socialist nominees to choose from, but find a way to hand pick their Republican opponent in each election cycle as well, conservatives can’t even figure out how to advance a conservative candidate within their own party.

Now, conservatives can uncharacteristically blame everyone else if they want, but if this doesn’t change, the conservative movement is indeed dead in America. If it’s not our fault, then it’s not within our power to fix it. I prefer to believe it is our fault for this reason alone.

Frustrated conservatives are right. Their party is currently controlled by liberal-lites running the RNC and it is very difficult to advance a conservative agenda in this environment. But they are wrong when they accept no individual responsibility for how that came to be. If they continue to accept no responsibility for the errors of the past, then they have no power to change those errors in the future. Such a move is equal to blind surrender.

To advance a conservative agenda in today’s Republican Party, we will have to advance it against the will of the current Republican National Committee leadership, which is clearly convinced that they must join Democratic Socialists in the pander war, just to compete with them on a national stage. Are they right?

Conservatives have stepped in this trap repeatedly over the last several election cycles and as of this writing, they still don’t recognize the trap, let alone how to avoid stepping in it again and again.

Conservatives are all about their principles, as they should be. They are also all about individuality. They seldom see a need to play well with others in pursuit of a common goal. They are the most independent minded folks on earth and they are always firm in their personal belief structures, so much so, that they will go down in flames before conceding a single issue, in the name of principle.

As a staunch conservative myself, I very much identify with the standard characteristics of the average American conservative. I too am very opinionated, principled and committed to my beliefs, sometimes to the ultimate detriment of those very principles.

But as a political analyst, I also see how these natural conservative characteristics are exploited in the political process, at the expense of the conservative movement at large.

In short, conservatives have been repeatedly triangulated on the issues by the opposition. They have been systematically set up in the primaries, to take the fall in the general election no matter which direction they turn. Time after time, the election is over for conservatives, before it even begins. Then conservatives fight to make themselves completely irrelevant.

Contrary to common claims made in the current infighting among conservatives, conservatives never fail to be conservative. They don’t know how to be anything else. What they fail to be is united in that effort.

Unlike conservatives, liberals are all about group think and group movement. Liberals are not independent minded nor are they individually responsible for anything. They think together and move as one, because they take the need to unite and their individual responsibility to play an active part in the group, very seriously. Conservatives oppose this very notion by nature of being conservative and divided, they fall, election after election.

The 2008 Republican primaries provide a vivid glimpse into just how true this is. Conservatives were very committed to their individual ideas of what conservative means, so much so that they remained completely divided between no less than eight primary candidates, each of them more conservative than John McCain. Divided among the eight, the liberal wing of the party was able to unite and advance the most liberal Republican candidate in the race, John McCain.

Once the RNC has a candidate who is almost as liberal as the Democratic Socialists running in the DNC, conservatives are caught in the very trap they were trying to avoid. No matter which direction they turn in the general election, they will be supporting another national shift to the left, even if they refuse to play any part at all.

If they vote for the RNC leftist who emerged from the RNC primaries with 35 percent of the Republican vote, they are voting for a shift to the left. If they stay home on Election Day, vote third party or write in some non-factor, they are allowing Democratic Socialists across the aisle to win by default, just as Clinton did in 1992 and 1996 with less than 50 percent of the popular vote.

If they cross over in protest and vote for a Democratic Socialist to teach the RNC a lesson, they have voted for a giant leap to the left and the only message they are sending the RNC is that the RNC must move even further left in the next election cycle to get back those votes that went Democrat in the last cycle.

Checkmate! No matter which direction conservatives move now, they are moving the nation left, at odds with all of the principles and values they hold dear. Stupid is as stupid does!

Like a pit viper backed into a corner, out come the fangs. Now cornered and pissed off, conservatives have their fangs out and they lash out at everything that moves. Anyone who failed to support their guy in the primaries is the enemy now. Anyone who sees the need to at least block a giant leap to the left in November is also an enemy.

Reality is, only about 35 percent of Republicans support John McCain. The other 65 percent who voted against McCain can never be accurately accused of supporting McCain, only opposing the greater opposition.

But more than 35 percent will indeed vote for McCain come November. Not because they have some new found love for John McCain or his many shortcomings, but because they will be NO part of sitting the First Family of Political Crime, Presidents Clinton, or the freshman cut-n-run Marxist from Illinois in the Oval Office.

Isn’t it funny how those who openly oppose Clinton and Obama are now seen by some conservatives as liberals, the enemy, when it is their vote or non-vote, of conservatives to angry to think straight, that will elect the most Socialist candidate running for office in the name of opposing McCain?

The infighting among conservatives has reached a deafening pitch. To see just how dangerous a cornered conservative can be to his movement, consider these postings at a well-known conservative discussion board Free Republic.

In reaction to my recent New Media Journal column titled “Why Conservatives Must Vote in 2008,” and some of the posters, hundreds of blogging conservatives lash out against their conservative brethren. So consumed by rage once cornered in the same old trap, they lose all perspective of who the real enemy is and cannibalize their own movement.

“This article was written by a self-important self-flagellating idiot. My conservative vote did not count for a whole lot in moving forward a conservative agenda whenever I voted for guys named George Bush. Now, this clown blames conservatives for being SO POWERFUL as to being blamed for allowing the Democrats to takeover congress. What I did at the polls in 2006 had NOTHING to do with the Republicans losing the congressional majorities. And if the Hillary the Republicans greatest hope for retaining the WH does not get the nomination, my conservative vote will have little to do with the 2008 election.” – Freeper by the screen name Biblebelter

“I think the RNC is going to be very surprised at the vote total for conservatives that do NOT coattail for McCain.” – Freeper, The Citizen Soldier

“If I vote my conscience, none of the current GOP or DEM candidates will get it. If I decide to hold my nose, McCain will get my vote. IF I decide to hold my nose. Your telling me that if I don't vote for McCain is voting for Hitlery or Obomba is not making me think of voting for McCain.” – Freeper, Just another Joe

“Just more McCainite fearmongering they think they can bully us with. Sorry, but my greater fear is we get another Arnold Schwarzenegger. A Hillary or Obama might give us a GOP majority in ‘10.” – Freeper, Free Vulcan

“At what point do you just realize it’s over. Nobody thinks the Rat party is going to go back to being a southern, agrarian, pro-slave party. The shift to a big government, elitist, urban party was incremental and permanent. The shift of the Republican Party BACK to a big government, elitist, country club party is permanent. The majority of the party is not in control in which case the majority should leave the system in which we get screwed.” – Freeper, demshateGod

These are but a few from hundreds of comments. Not all of them are self-defeating like these. The issue isn’t whether or not these posters have a valid point, but rather, what is the productive nature of their point? Can anything productive come from the massive infighting underway with the conservative base of the Republican Party? Anything positive for conservatives I mean?

“The McCattle have already surrendered and become democrats.”- Freeper, cripplecreek - This comment on the basis of opposing Obama and Clinton?

Have conservatives really lost sight of who the real enemy is here? Do they really accept no personal responsibility for how we got here, or what happens next? Are they really throwing in the towel, not just for the GOP, but for the nation, or are they simply having a momentary temper tantrum?

Most disturbing to me when reading comments on a conservative discussion board like Free Republic, is the fact that you will rarely read a comment based on a productive idea of how to change what every conservative is indeed upset about.

Hundreds of complainers and finger-pointers can be read at Free Republic and countless other conservative blogs. But for all the principled opposition to what is happening to our party and our country, where are the conservative ideas of what to do about it? These kinds of comments are suspiciously absent among conservatives at present.

Conservatives are supposed to be part of the solution, not a part of the problem. Yet they seem unable to move beyond their rage to a place where productive solutions can emerge. I expect this kind of emotionally charged hand wringing and indiscriminate lashing out from liberals, but from conservatives too now?

There is but one reason. Conservatives failed to unite to move their agenda forward. Divided, they have fallen. Continuing to divide will only worsen the problem, not provide a solution.

My grandfather was a WWI veteran and although he passed many years ago, he remains one of my heroes today. He repeated the following advice so many times as I was growing up, that there was no way to wash it from my memory.

He would say, “If you have nothing productive to add to the conversation, say nothing at all. That alone will be more productive.”

Conservatives are getting their ass handed to them by an anti-American minority and the best response they can come up with is to beat on each other in a fit of rage and further divide their foot soldiers? Well, they bicker and divide at their own demise…

1) McCain sucks! But one of three candidates will sit in the Oval Office for the next four years, McCain, Clinton or Obama. When faced with three dangerous attackers, and only two bullets left, shoot the two most dangerous attackers and go hand to hand with the least of the threats remaining. To address none of the three is certain suicide. 2) Most Americans are far more conservative than the governments they elect. The socialist minority will continue to win so long as conservatives fail to unite in productive measure. 3) Conservative principles are not welcome in any socialist country. So, stopping Democratic Socialists from sitting in the Oval Office at any cost is a must.

Or, we could spend the next seven months regurgitating all the well-known ways that John McCain is a horrible Republican alternative to the completely unacceptable Democratic Socialists he’s running against. It won’t change anything, but you can sound more conservative at cocktail parties by showing how smart you are to recognize this reality.

McCain was indeed a ten o’clock two. But he’s fast becoming a two o’clock ten! Unless conservatives want to go home and take a cold shower and wait another four years for a date, they will have to dance the least ugly girl at the party this time around.

Eliminating the two bigger threats and going hand to hand with the lesser McCain is the best they can do in 2008. But then they will have to do a better job of uniting on principle in 2010 and beyond.

“If I vote my conscience, none of the current GOP or DEM candidates will get it. If I decide to hold my nose, McCain will get my vote. IF I decide to hold my nose.

And I still stand by this statement.

Give me a reason to vote FOR John McCain, not a reason to vote AGAINST the Dems.

Conservatives haven’t found out how to solve that problem due to the bane of Conservatism:

Over Abundance of Pride.

Every group believes that they “have the answer” making productive co-operation impossible, when 5 people all think they are “right” no one can admit they are wrong, add in pride, and even changing course becomes impossible.

Sorry, I’m conservative and could never get excited about Fred. He looked old and arthritic. I still like Romney, but lets face it his religion did him in.

There are many conservative black leaders out there that would be ten times the candidate Obama is, who would garner my vote. Obama is a throw back to Louis Armstrong. BUT

Like Reagan, his words appeal to the masses.

Funny how he’s sitting back and letting his supporters speak for him, describing who he is. Reminds you of Reagan.

nick

“A whole lot of people believe that McCain is not the least of the threats, and they have, contrary to the writer’s opinion, a valid point.”

First, the writers opinion concedes their point, but asks if repeating the point without offering any solution is productive. I fine question with not such a good answer.

“Fearmongering. Talk about useless.”

You call it “fearmongering” - but it is fact. Addressing none of the three threats at all IS suicide.

“Here is where the leap is made. - The only must is that we “must” stop Republican liberals from sitting in the GOP - We can deal with the democrats anytime that we do.”

True, and the base message of this column. But we failed to do that in 2008. So, now what?

“Apparently, the writer is indulging in this right now.”

No, as conservatives are still more interested in shooting at each other than developing sound solutions, the writer is ON THE MARK in his slapping conservatives for doing so.

“Conservatives will start winning when they actually do something about the size and scope of government instead of just talking about it.”

Most conservatives in office are CINO, pronounced “see no”, they are conservative in name only and “see no” government program that they can’t support. CINO’s are politicians and we must understand that they only care about themselves. Until we get back to electing true Conservative legislators instead of professional politicians we are going to loose.

I think this a bit of over analysis. 70% of the country is not conservative. I’d like to know where he gets that from. It may be that 70% give conservative like answers to surveys, but when it comes to voting they’re not conservative.

The split is probably much closer to 35/35/30 between actually voting liberals, conservatives, and the “mushy middles” that go in all directions.

So, why aren’t conservatives winning? It’s a combination of a lack of boldness, direction and leadership and big dose of this...

From John at PowerlineBlog.com:

“... Today, the benefit of that experience has largely been lost. A generation of American voters has not experienced the failures of the Great Society, the near-collapse of American cities, double-digit inflation and unemployment, seventy percent tax brackets, or the disaster of Jimmy Carter’s foreign policy. In the absence of historical memory, and with a powerful assist from the ever-forgetful press, liberalism is once again emerging as the philosophy that sounds good. The fact that it doesn’t work awaits as an unpleasant surprise for a new generation. In the meantime, Barack Obama may well be the plausible candidate who can lead voters, once again, down the blind alley of leftism. He is, as Steve Hayes argues, an opponent who must be taken seriously. ...”

You are arguing against yourself. Bush I lost because he reneged on his no new taxes promise and we got Clinton I. Clinton ran as a centrist btw. We lost Congress in ‘06 when President Bush ran left. McCain is even farther left - how do you think this bodes for our representation in Congress? In the Presidential race in ‘12?

Conversely, we won in ‘94 because the Democrats ran left. We won in ‘80 because of leftist Carter, and Algore and Kerry lost to Bush because they were too left. Note again Clinton ran as a centrist, as did those who gave the Democrats the majority in ‘06. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have been absolutely ineffective at getting their agenda thru because the nation has no desire to go left.

The last 30 years have shown that running left overall is a loser. Which is why I don’t want McCain as President. We have a much better chance of victory by letting our opposition go left and countering in the next election.

Arnold is the proof. As I said in the last thread, when the author wants to explain Arnold to me and make it consistent with his theory, only then will he have credibility with me.

For all yours and the author’s ‘theories,’ history doesn’t jibe.

First, Reagan only won with 51% of the popular vote, and he won because Carter was a complete disaster. Bozo could have beat Carter after four years of disaster, be even then, Reagan only won with 51%.

Nobody knew Reagan was a great leader until after he was elected. Then he was re-elected by like 57% as a result. So great leadership does work. But never forget that Reagan was also the only president to push for and pass REAL amnesty for Illegals, then fail to secure the border after.

We do have beauty contests today. But how do you explain McCain on that basis?

Conservative principles still win in America, when they are offered. How do you get around the reality that conservatives are failing to advance their agenda?

How do you vote when there is NO conservative to vote for?

That’s the discussion. Everyone on this board would vote “conservative” given that chance and they all did, for eight different conservatives, that’s how we got McCain with 35% of the Republican vote.

This author starts out with a false premise.

America has exactly the mess of a government it deserves because it always has the government it elected. In reality, our messy government is a precise reflection of our very messy electorate.

Proof can readily be found here!

When our so-called primary "election" has been manipulated and tweaked by the RNC to the point of allowing me, and millions of others, NO CHOICE in the primary, I will not sit quietly and allow some pompous "conservative" pundit/author blame me for the fiasco.

The king was annointed after only 6 states had been heard from and crowned after only half the voting public had their say. This so-called primary "election" has been nothing more than a circus from start to finish for the sole purpose of entertaining the sheeple.

“It is enough that the people know there was an election.
The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.”
-Joseph Stalin

There wasn’t a viable conservative in the race, just pale pretenders.

And thats how the GOP ended up with the 37% candidate as the nominee.

Its also why the next time we here Obama’s complete, legal name it will be in the following context;

‘I, Barack HUESSIN Obama, do solemnly swear....’

Moderates dont’ lead by definition, and ‘anger politics’ as practiced by John McCain have virtually ensured Democrats keep the House and Senate - increasing margins in both, along with the Whitehouse.

But hey, no problem...McCain will work with Democrats....(sarcasm)

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