Posted on 02/27/2008 6:04:33 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
When searching for answers as to how we got here in America - here being a steadily accelerating march into Democratic Socialism - there is plenty of blame to go around. Personally, I dont see an innocent individual in the lot.
Those who consider themselves to be the most politically astute people in America, conservatives, have once again been out-foxed by those they call ignorant. Forest Gumps momma was right; stupid is as stupid does! Steeped in worthy principles, yes. Politically astute? You must be kidding
America has exactly the mess of a government it deserves because it always has the government it elected. No matter which partisan group we claim our own, there is no escaping responsibility for where we are as a nation today. In reality, our messy government is a precise reflection of our very messy electorate.
But as a lifelong conservative myself, I want to focus on my conservative brethren in this column. I want to talk to my own peeps!
Before we can advance a conservative agenda in America, we will have to figure out how to advance a conservative agenda within our own party first. Conservatives are going to have to face some hard realities about how our agenda became only a fringe side-show in a nation where most of the population is actually far more conservative than the government it keeps electing.
Conservatives Dont Know How to Win
So they keep losing and conservatives have once again positioned themselves, or allowed themselves to be positioned, to lose again in 2008. The fact is, they have done both.
Conservatives have proven themselves to be the most ineffective political constituency in America today. The track record can be summed up no other way. Although they represent the principles and values of more than 70 percent of Americans, they cant seem to get their act together or lead that 70 percent of the country in a single direction. So, the better organized minority movement wins.
Unlike their opposition across the aisle, who not only find a way to give themselves several good socialist nominees to choose from, but find a way to hand pick their Republican opponent in each election cycle as well, conservatives cant even figure out how to advance a conservative candidate within their own party.
Now, conservatives can uncharacteristically blame everyone else if they want, but if this doesnt change, the conservative movement is indeed dead in America. If its not our fault, then its not within our power to fix it. I prefer to believe it is our fault for this reason alone.
Over-ruling RNC Powers
Frustrated conservatives are right. Their party is currently controlled by liberal-lites running the RNC and it is very difficult to advance a conservative agenda in this environment. But they are wrong when they accept no individual responsibility for how that came to be. If they continue to accept no responsibility for the errors of the past, then they have no power to change those errors in the future. Such a move is equal to blind surrender.
To advance a conservative agenda in todays Republican Party, we will have to advance it against the will of the current Republican National Committee leadership, which is clearly convinced that they must join Democratic Socialists in the pander war, just to compete with them on a national stage. Are they right?
The Politically Principled Suicide Trap
Conservatives have stepped in this trap repeatedly over the last several election cycles and as of this writing, they still dont recognize the trap, let alone how to avoid stepping in it again and again.
Conservatives are all about their principles, as they should be. They are also all about individuality. They seldom see a need to play well with others in pursuit of a common goal. They are the most independent minded folks on earth and they are always firm in their personal belief structures, so much so, that they will go down in flames before conceding a single issue, in the name of principle.
As a staunch conservative myself, I very much identify with the standard characteristics of the average American conservative. I too am very opinionated, principled and committed to my beliefs, sometimes to the ultimate detriment of those very principles.
But as a political analyst, I also see how these natural conservative characteristics are exploited in the political process, at the expense of the conservative movement at large.
In short, conservatives have been repeatedly triangulated on the issues by the opposition. They have been systematically set up in the primaries, to take the fall in the general election no matter which direction they turn. Time after time, the election is over for conservatives, before it even begins. Then conservatives fight to make themselves completely irrelevant.
Winning Battles to Lose the War
Contrary to common claims made in the current infighting among conservatives, conservatives never fail to be conservative. They dont know how to be anything else. What they fail to be is united in that effort.
Unlike conservatives, liberals are all about group think and group movement. Liberals are not independent minded nor are they individually responsible for anything. They think together and move as one, because they take the need to unite and their individual responsibility to play an active part in the group, very seriously. Conservatives oppose this very notion by nature of being conservative and divided, they fall, election after election.
The 2008 Republican primaries provide a vivid glimpse into just how true this is. Conservatives were very committed to their individual ideas of what conservative means, so much so that they remained completely divided between no less than eight primary candidates, each of them more conservative than John McCain. Divided among the eight, the liberal wing of the party was able to unite and advance the most liberal Republican candidate in the race, John McCain.
Now Comes the Triangulation Part
Once the RNC has a candidate who is almost as liberal as the Democratic Socialists running in the DNC, conservatives are caught in the very trap they were trying to avoid. No matter which direction they turn in the general election, they will be supporting another national shift to the left, even if they refuse to play any part at all.
If they vote for the RNC leftist who emerged from the RNC primaries with 35 percent of the Republican vote, they are voting for a shift to the left. If they stay home on Election Day, vote third party or write in some non-factor, they are allowing Democratic Socialists across the aisle to win by default, just as Clinton did in 1992 and 1996 with less than 50 percent of the popular vote.
If they cross over in protest and vote for a Democratic Socialist to teach the RNC a lesson, they have voted for a giant leap to the left and the only message they are sending the RNC is that the RNC must move even further left in the next election cycle to get back those votes that went Democrat in the last cycle.
Checkmate! No matter which direction conservatives move now, they are moving the nation left, at odds with all of the principles and values they hold dear. Stupid is as stupid does!
Once Triangulated and Cornered
Like a pit viper backed into a corner, out come the fangs. Now cornered and pissed off, conservatives have their fangs out and they lash out at everything that moves. Anyone who failed to support their guy in the primaries is the enemy now. Anyone who sees the need to at least block a giant leap to the left in November is also an enemy.
Reality is, only about 35 percent of Republicans support John McCain. The other 65 percent who voted against McCain can never be accurately accused of supporting McCain, only opposing the greater opposition.
But more than 35 percent will indeed vote for McCain come November. Not because they have some new found love for John McCain or his many shortcomings, but because they will be NO part of sitting the First Family of Political Crime, Presidents Clinton, or the freshman cut-n-run Marxist from Illinois in the Oval Office.
Isnt it funny how those who openly oppose Clinton and Obama are now seen by some conservatives as liberals, the enemy, when it is their vote or non-vote, of conservatives to angry to think straight, that will elect the most Socialist candidate running for office in the name of opposing McCain?
This is how fuzzy logic can become, once cornered in a trap.
How Silly Are We Now?
The infighting among conservatives has reached a deafening pitch. To see just how dangerous a cornered conservative can be to his movement, consider these postings at a well-known conservative discussion board Free Republic.
In reaction to my recent New Media Journal column titled Why Conservatives Must Vote in 2008, and some of the posters, hundreds of blogging conservatives lash out against their conservative brethren. So consumed by rage once cornered in the same old trap, they lose all perspective of who the real enemy is and cannibalize their own movement.
This article was written by a self-important self-flagellating idiot. My conservative vote did not count for a whole lot in moving forward a conservative agenda whenever I voted for guys named George Bush. Now, this clown blames conservatives for being SO POWERFUL as to being blamed for allowing the Democrats to takeover congress. What I did at the polls in 2006 had NOTHING to do with the Republicans losing the congressional majorities. And if the Hillary the Republicans greatest hope for retaining the WH does not get the nomination, my conservative vote will have little to do with the 2008 election. Freeper by the screen name Biblebelter
I think the RNC is going to be very surprised at the vote total for conservatives that do NOT coattail for McCain. Freeper, The Citizen Soldier
If I vote my conscience, none of the current GOP or DEM candidates will get it. If I decide to hold my nose, McCain will get my vote. IF I decide to hold my nose. Your telling me that if I don't vote for McCain is voting for Hitlery or Obomba is not making me think of voting for McCain. Freeper, Just another Joe
Just more McCainite fearmongering they think they can bully us with. Sorry, but my greater fear is we get another Arnold Schwarzenegger. A Hillary or Obama might give us a GOP majority in 10. Freeper, Free Vulcan
At what point do you just realize its over. Nobody thinks the Rat party is going to go back to being a southern, agrarian, pro-slave party. The shift to a big government, elitist, urban party was incremental and permanent. The shift of the Republican Party BACK to a big government, elitist, country club party is permanent. The majority of the party is not in control in which case the majority should leave the system in which we get screwed. Freeper, demshateGod
These are but a few from hundreds of comments. Not all of them are self-defeating like these. The issue isnt whether or not these posters have a valid point, but rather, what is the productive nature of their point? Can anything productive come from the massive infighting underway with the conservative base of the Republican Party? Anything positive for conservatives I mean?
The McCattle have already surrendered and become democrats.- Freeper, cripplecreek - This comment on the basis of opposing Obama and Clinton?
Have conservatives really lost sight of who the real enemy is here? Do they really accept no personal responsibility for how we got here, or what happens next? Are they really throwing in the towel, not just for the GOP, but for the nation, or are they simply having a momentary temper tantrum?
Most disturbing to me when reading comments on a conservative discussion board like Free Republic, is the fact that you will rarely read a comment based on a productive idea of how to change what every conservative is indeed upset about.
Hundreds of complainers and finger-pointers can be read at Free Republic and countless other conservative blogs. But for all the principled opposition to what is happening to our party and our country, where are the conservative ideas of what to do about it? These kinds of comments are suspiciously absent among conservatives at present.
Conservatives are supposed to be part of the solution, not a part of the problem. Yet they seem unable to move beyond their rage to a place where productive solutions can emerge. I expect this kind of emotionally charged hand wringing and indiscriminate lashing out from liberals, but from conservatives too now?
If the Conservative Movement is Dead
There is but one reason. Conservatives failed to unite to move their agenda forward. Divided, they have fallen. Continuing to divide will only worsen the problem, not provide a solution.
My grandfather was a WWI veteran and although he passed many years ago, he remains one of my heroes today. He repeated the following advice so many times as I was growing up, that there was no way to wash it from my memory.
He would say, If you have nothing productive to add to the conversation, say nothing at all. That alone will be more productive.
Conservatives are getting their ass handed to them by an anti-American minority and the best response they can come up with is to beat on each other in a fit of rage and further divide their foot soldiers? Well, they bicker and divide at their own demise
Three Undeniable Realities
1) McCain sucks! But one of three candidates will sit in the Oval Office for the next four years, McCain, Clinton or Obama. When faced with three dangerous attackers, and only two bullets left, shoot the two most dangerous attackers and go hand to hand with the least of the threats remaining. To address none of the three is certain suicide. 2) Most Americans are far more conservative than the governments they elect. The socialist minority will continue to win so long as conservatives fail to unite in productive measure. 3) Conservative principles are not welcome in any socialist country. So, stopping Democratic Socialists from sitting in the Oval Office at any cost is a must.
Or, we could spend the next seven months regurgitating all the well-known ways that John McCain is a horrible Republican alternative to the completely unacceptable Democratic Socialists hes running against. It wont change anything, but you can sound more conservative at cocktail parties by showing how smart you are to recognize this reality.
McCain was indeed a ten oclock two. But hes fast becoming a two oclock ten! Unless conservatives want to go home and take a cold shower and wait another four years for a date, they will have to dance the least ugly girl at the party this time around.
Eliminating the two bigger threats and going hand to hand with the lesser McCain is the best they can do in 2008. But then they will have to do a better job of uniting on principle in 2010 and beyond.
Here it is again, with a link.
The idea that keeping the likes of Obama or Clinton out of the White House is some form of liberalism is just plain insane. I have read that too often here at FR.
I am a long time regular reader of Williams. He is the last writer in America who could be accurately accused of being either liberal or pro-McCain.
You can't find a more conservative author today. When he's right, he's right, even when it's uncomfortable.
I agree with Williams. I am not posting this to poke Freepers in the eye and I'm sure Williams didn't write it for that reason either.
Like this author, I'm hoping that conservatives can recognize how we got here, what we need to do now and how we change this circumctance in the future.
I was disappointed by the many posters who simply took a defensive attack mode in response to this news yesterday. I'm hoping for a better response to the piece today.
Semi-exactly. I blame the supporters of the "wing" candidates - Huckabee, McCain, and Romney - who should have conceded that their candidates appealed only to one "wing" of the broader body of conservatism, and who should have supported the only candidate who was a true, broad-based, all-around movement conservative - Fred Thompson. We're in this fix because too many conservatives put their petty one-wing concerns over the good of the movement and the nation as a whole.
Ping
This conservative is lying to himself. Conservatives did not allow the Democrats to take back congress in 2006. Conservatives just do not have that kind of power or numbers. Conservatives lie to themselves when they take credit for Jorge Bush’s two elections. As we have so painfully come to find out Jorge is not all that conservative, but I did vote for him twice. Jorge won two elections, not on his political stance but for the sheer fact that he was more likeable than the two Democrat duds Kerry and Gore. And this Keating Five Guy might win a close election if he were running against Hillary, because the one politician in Washington that is less likeable than McCain is the Hildebeast. But Jorge won two elections not because of the loyalty of the conservative base which he had, but because Jorge is a more likeable fellow than Kerry or Gore. When the parties are split so evenly, it was his likeabilty among swing voters in swing states that gave him two narrow margins. The Keating Five Guy can get every Republican vote there is, but the younger more likeable blank page Obama will get the swing voters in swing states because McCain unlike Jorge Bush is a very unlikeable RINO relic old geezer.
Hope is not a method and a liberal posing as a conservative is a big LOSER.
VERY well said...
Conservatives should have rallied behind the most complete conservative available, the one who could have brought the most conservatives into the fold by representing the widest range of conservative values.
According to all FR polling data, that was Fred Thompson from start to finish. I would have been happy with whomever FR members agreed was the most complete conservative.
The debate as to who that was could have taken place quickly and easily here and it did. Once conservatives agreed in majority, all conservatives should have rallied to that effort and let their single issue conservatives go.
This must happen in the future and if it does, conservatives can begin to win again.
Well done!
“This conservative is lying to himself. Conservatives did not allow the Democrats to take back congress in 2006.”
Agree with you 100% it seems that as they say 2 years in politics is a lifetime, we lost the house and senate for a very simple reason, easily researched, and apparently easily forgotten by many.
The CANDIDATES behavior and inept campaigning caused them to loose!
Conservatives will start winning when they actually do something about the size and scope of government instead of just talking about it. Cutting taxes is the only thing they actually do so they allow the Dems to frame the debate. They continue to pour money into failed programs.
Conservatives, be they economic or social, have been kicked in the teeth and undermined by the DC Republicans.
Think of all of the Conservatives who donated time to passage of the One man, One woman=Marriage, only to be shot in the back by the idiot Hastert’s coddling of Mark Foley.
Or, economic Conservatives who were appalled at the Pork Spending, yet the DC Repubs kept going back to the earmark well.
Or National Defense Conservatives who cannot reconcile a Open Border and a War on Terrorism and Terrorists.
The problems isn’t Joe America, it’s the DC Elite Republicans who are not consistent and do not take Conservatism seriously.
Editorials are opinions and editorialists can never seem to find the target when shooting at me. I’m voting conservative for my own reasons and I’m tired of trying to explain it to GOPers who continue to lose because they think they can dictate thought.
You buy into the MSM American demographics reports. This writer doesn’t and neither do I.
Bush actually lost by a half million votes in 2000. He won in 2004 by more than 3 million votes however and that was directly due to his handling of 9/11 and the war on terror.
Then he and the RINO controlled congress used that political capital to push leftist domestic policies and conservative did indeed let Democrats take both houses back in ‘06.
Here’s the REAL reality of American demographics.
More than 90% of American claim a faith in God.
More than 70% claim the Christian Faith.
Yet the 4% who claim atheists beliefs are running roughshod over the vast majority on free religious expression, abortion, freedom, liberty, you name it.
The small minority is beating the vast majority like a drum.
50% of eligiable voters don’t vote at all, nbot because they don’t care, but because they lost faith in the system that offers tham NO candidate to vote for. Most of these folks are conservatives who see only liberals on their ballot.
50% of those who do vote, or 25% of the electorate, now votes themselves gifts from the treasury in every election and all Democrats pander to this group.
25% or the other 50% of active voters are Republicans, but many are now confused about what that means, because they too have trouble telling a difference between Democrats and Republicans right now.
But if you look at what happened in 1994, when the Gingrich Contract with American swept Republicans into control of both houses for the first time in 40 years, and it all happened on strict conservative values and principles, then you should know that America has many more conservatives than it has Republicans... They just don’t have a party right now...
(Excuse any rush typos)
1) McCain sucks! - Agreed.
shoot the two most dangerous attackers and go hand to hand with the least of the threats remaining.
A whole lot of people believe that McCain is not the least of the threats, and they have, contrary to the writer's opinion, a valid point.
To address none of the three is certain suicide.
Fearmongering. Talk about useless.
The socialist minority will continue to win so long as conservatives fail to unite in productive measure. 3) Conservative principles are not welcome in any socialist country.
All agreed.
So, stopping Democratic Socialists from sitting in the Oval Office at any cost is a must.
Here is where the leap is made. - The only must is that we "must" stop Republican liberals from sitting in the GOP - We can deal with the democrats anytime that we do.
The writer is correct - We must unite to throw out the RINOs and leftists.
If the GOP and the RNC are so stupid as to continue to move left, then AMF to them. - Goodbye.
It wont change anything, but you can sound more conservative at cocktail parties by showing how smart you are to recognize this reality.
Apparently, the writer is indulging in this right now.
Who is the liberal posing as a conservative? You?
He will not even get that.
I get it.
It’s my fault.
We’re stuck with the radical left wing nutcase, McCain, who will peddle the exact same agenda as Hillobama, only with a lot of conservatives cheering his slaughter of the Republic, because the primary is long over before I even get to vote in it.
Then both of you are ill-informed.
Go back and read all the conservative blogger messages from conservatives who were going to “teach the RNC a lesson” in 2006. Then go study the election data of the 2006 cycle.
Conservatives revolted against liberal Bush & RNC policies in 2006. The RNC also allowed themselves to be successfully demonized in the war on terror and lost the confidence of the voters for a long list of reasons, some real, some imaginary.
Yes, but conservatives must be sent to Washington before that will happen.
How do we do that?
Liberals seem to have figured out how to advance their agenda. Why haven’t conservatives figured out how to advance theirs?
Reagan did not beat Carter on conservative principles. He was TALLER, looked more Presidential, and had ten times the charm. The fact that he was a great leader was the bonus. Clinton beat the promise breaking George Bush because, he was more likeable than some clown that made promises to the American people that he was not man enough to keep. Dole would have made a better President than Clinton but he was just not as likeable as a treacherous sex criminal.
But like McCain, they are “mavericking” against their own, not against the enemy???
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