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Conservatives Have Stepped In It Again!
NewsByUs ^ | February 27, 2008 | JB Williams

Posted on 02/27/2008 6:04:33 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican

When searching for answers as to how we got here in America - here being a steadily accelerating march into Democratic Socialism - there is plenty of blame to go around. Personally, I don’t see an innocent individual in the lot.

Those who consider themselves to be the most politically astute people in America, conservatives, have once again been out-foxed by those they call ignorant. Forest Gump’s momma was right; stupid is as stupid does! Steeped in worthy principles, yes. Politically astute? You must be kidding…

America has exactly the mess of a government it deserves because it always has the government it elected. No matter which partisan group we claim our own, there is no escaping responsibility for where we are as a nation today. In reality, our messy government is a precise reflection of our very messy electorate.

But as a lifelong conservative myself, I want to focus on my conservative brethren in this column. I want to talk to my own peeps!

Before we can advance a conservative agenda in America, we will have to figure out how to advance a conservative agenda within our own party first. Conservatives are going to have to face some hard realities about how our agenda became only a fringe side-show in a nation where most of the population is actually far more conservative than the government it keeps electing.

Conservatives Don’t Know How to Win

So they keep losing and conservatives have once again positioned themselves, or allowed themselves to be positioned, to lose again in 2008. The fact is, they have done both.

Conservatives have proven themselves to be the most ineffective political constituency in America today. The track record can be summed up no other way. Although they represent the principles and values of more than 70 percent of Americans, they can’t seem to get their act together or lead that 70 percent of the country in a single direction. So, the better organized minority movement wins.

Unlike their opposition across the aisle, who not only find a way to give themselves several good socialist nominees to choose from, but find a way to hand pick their Republican opponent in each election cycle as well, conservatives can’t even figure out how to advance a conservative candidate within their own party.

Now, conservatives can uncharacteristically blame everyone else if they want, but if this doesn’t change, the conservative movement is indeed dead in America. If it’s not our fault, then it’s not within our power to fix it. I prefer to believe it is our fault for this reason alone.

Over-ruling RNC Powers

Frustrated conservatives are right. Their party is currently controlled by liberal-lites running the RNC and it is very difficult to advance a conservative agenda in this environment. But they are wrong when they accept no individual responsibility for how that came to be. If they continue to accept no responsibility for the errors of the past, then they have no power to change those errors in the future. Such a move is equal to blind surrender.

To advance a conservative agenda in today’s Republican Party, we will have to advance it against the will of the current Republican National Committee leadership, which is clearly convinced that they must join Democratic Socialists in the pander war, just to compete with them on a national stage. Are they right?

The Politically Principled Suicide Trap

Conservatives have stepped in this trap repeatedly over the last several election cycles and as of this writing, they still don’t recognize the trap, let alone how to avoid stepping in it again and again.

Conservatives are all about their principles, as they should be. They are also all about individuality. They seldom see a need to play well with others in pursuit of a common goal. They are the most independent minded folks on earth and they are always firm in their personal belief structures, so much so, that they will go down in flames before conceding a single issue, in the name of principle.

As a staunch conservative myself, I very much identify with the standard characteristics of the average American conservative. I too am very opinionated, principled and committed to my beliefs, sometimes to the ultimate detriment of those very principles.

But as a political analyst, I also see how these natural conservative characteristics are exploited in the political process, at the expense of the conservative movement at large.

In short, conservatives have been repeatedly triangulated on the issues by the opposition. They have been systematically set up in the primaries, to take the fall in the general election no matter which direction they turn. Time after time, the election is over for conservatives, before it even begins. Then conservatives fight to make themselves completely irrelevant.

Winning Battles to Lose the War

Contrary to common claims made in the current infighting among conservatives, conservatives never fail to be conservative. They don’t know how to be anything else. What they fail to be is united in that effort.

Unlike conservatives, liberals are all about group think and group movement. Liberals are not independent minded nor are they individually responsible for anything. They think together and move as one, because they take the need to unite and their individual responsibility to play an active part in the group, very seriously. Conservatives oppose this very notion by nature of being conservative and divided, they fall, election after election.

The 2008 Republican primaries provide a vivid glimpse into just how true this is. Conservatives were very committed to their individual ideas of what conservative means, so much so that they remained completely divided between no less than eight primary candidates, each of them more conservative than John McCain. Divided among the eight, the liberal wing of the party was able to unite and advance the most liberal Republican candidate in the race, John McCain.

Now Comes the Triangulation Part

Once the RNC has a candidate who is almost as liberal as the Democratic Socialists running in the DNC, conservatives are caught in the very trap they were trying to avoid. No matter which direction they turn in the general election, they will be supporting another national shift to the left, even if they refuse to play any part at all.

If they vote for the RNC leftist who emerged from the RNC primaries with 35 percent of the Republican vote, they are voting for a shift to the left. If they stay home on Election Day, vote third party or write in some non-factor, they are allowing Democratic Socialists across the aisle to win by default, just as Clinton did in 1992 and 1996 with less than 50 percent of the popular vote.

If they cross over in protest and vote for a Democratic Socialist to teach the RNC a lesson, they have voted for a giant leap to the left and the only message they are sending the RNC is that the RNC must move even further left in the next election cycle to get back those votes that went Democrat in the last cycle.

Checkmate! No matter which direction conservatives move now, they are moving the nation left, at odds with all of the principles and values they hold dear. Stupid is as stupid does!

Once Triangulated and Cornered

Like a pit viper backed into a corner, out come the fangs. Now cornered and pissed off, conservatives have their fangs out and they lash out at everything that moves. Anyone who failed to support their guy in the primaries is the enemy now. Anyone who sees the need to at least block a giant leap to the left in November is also an enemy.

Reality is, only about 35 percent of Republicans support John McCain. The other 65 percent who voted against McCain can never be accurately accused of supporting McCain, only opposing the greater opposition.

But more than 35 percent will indeed vote for McCain come November. Not because they have some new found love for John McCain or his many shortcomings, but because they will be NO part of sitting the First Family of Political Crime, Presidents Clinton, or the freshman cut-n-run Marxist from Illinois in the Oval Office.

Isn’t it funny how those who openly oppose Clinton and Obama are now seen by some conservatives as liberals, the enemy, when it is their vote or non-vote, of conservatives to angry to think straight, that will elect the most Socialist candidate running for office in the name of opposing McCain?

This is how fuzzy logic can become, once cornered in a trap.

How Silly Are We Now?

The infighting among conservatives has reached a deafening pitch. To see just how dangerous a cornered conservative can be to his movement, consider these postings at a well-known conservative discussion board Free Republic.

In reaction to my recent New Media Journal column titled “Why Conservatives Must Vote in 2008,” and some of the posters, hundreds of blogging conservatives lash out against their conservative brethren. So consumed by rage once cornered in the same old trap, they lose all perspective of who the real enemy is and cannibalize their own movement.

“This article was written by a self-important self-flagellating idiot. My conservative vote did not count for a whole lot in moving forward a conservative agenda whenever I voted for guys named George Bush. Now, this clown blames conservatives for being SO POWERFUL as to being blamed for allowing the Democrats to takeover congress. What I did at the polls in 2006 had NOTHING to do with the Republicans losing the congressional majorities. And if the Hillary the Republicans greatest hope for retaining the WH does not get the nomination, my conservative vote will have little to do with the 2008 election.” – Freeper by the screen name Biblebelter

“I think the RNC is going to be very surprised at the vote total for conservatives that do NOT coattail for McCain.” – Freeper, The Citizen Soldier

“If I vote my conscience, none of the current GOP or DEM candidates will get it. If I decide to hold my nose, McCain will get my vote. IF I decide to hold my nose. Your telling me that if I don't vote for McCain is voting for Hitlery or Obomba is not making me think of voting for McCain.” – Freeper, Just another Joe

“Just more McCainite fearmongering they think they can bully us with. Sorry, but my greater fear is we get another Arnold Schwarzenegger. A Hillary or Obama might give us a GOP majority in ‘10.” – Freeper, Free Vulcan

“At what point do you just realize it’s over. Nobody thinks the Rat party is going to go back to being a southern, agrarian, pro-slave party. The shift to a big government, elitist, urban party was incremental and permanent. The shift of the Republican Party BACK to a big government, elitist, country club party is permanent. The majority of the party is not in control in which case the majority should leave the system in which we get screwed.” – Freeper, demshateGod

These are but a few from hundreds of comments. Not all of them are self-defeating like these. The issue isn’t whether or not these posters have a valid point, but rather, what is the productive nature of their point? Can anything productive come from the massive infighting underway with the conservative base of the Republican Party? Anything positive for conservatives I mean?

“The McCattle have already surrendered and become democrats.”- Freeper, cripplecreek - This comment on the basis of opposing Obama and Clinton?

Have conservatives really lost sight of who the real enemy is here? Do they really accept no personal responsibility for how we got here, or what happens next? Are they really throwing in the towel, not just for the GOP, but for the nation, or are they simply having a momentary temper tantrum?

Most disturbing to me when reading comments on a conservative discussion board like Free Republic, is the fact that you will rarely read a comment based on a productive idea of how to change what every conservative is indeed upset about.

Hundreds of complainers and finger-pointers can be read at Free Republic and countless other conservative blogs. But for all the principled opposition to what is happening to our party and our country, where are the conservative ideas of what to do about it? These kinds of comments are suspiciously absent among conservatives at present.

Conservatives are supposed to be part of the solution, not a part of the problem. Yet they seem unable to move beyond their rage to a place where productive solutions can emerge. I expect this kind of emotionally charged hand wringing and indiscriminate lashing out from liberals, but from conservatives too now?

If the Conservative Movement is Dead

There is but one reason. Conservatives failed to unite to move their agenda forward. Divided, they have fallen. Continuing to divide will only worsen the problem, not provide a solution.

My grandfather was a WWI veteran and although he passed many years ago, he remains one of my heroes today. He repeated the following advice so many times as I was growing up, that there was no way to wash it from my memory.

He would say, “If you have nothing productive to add to the conversation, say nothing at all. That alone will be more productive.”

Conservatives are getting their ass handed to them by an anti-American minority and the best response they can come up with is to beat on each other in a fit of rage and further divide their foot soldiers? Well, they bicker and divide at their own demise…

Three Undeniable Realities

1) McCain sucks! But one of three candidates will sit in the Oval Office for the next four years, McCain, Clinton or Obama. When faced with three dangerous attackers, and only two bullets left, shoot the two most dangerous attackers and go hand to hand with the least of the threats remaining. To address none of the three is certain suicide. 2) Most Americans are far more conservative than the governments they elect. The socialist minority will continue to win so long as conservatives fail to unite in productive measure. 3) Conservative principles are not welcome in any socialist country. So, stopping Democratic Socialists from sitting in the Oval Office at any cost is a must.

Or, we could spend the next seven months regurgitating all the well-known ways that John McCain is a horrible Republican alternative to the completely unacceptable Democratic Socialists he’s running against. It won’t change anything, but you can sound more conservative at cocktail parties by showing how smart you are to recognize this reality.

McCain was indeed a ten o’clock two. But he’s fast becoming a two o’clock ten! Unless conservatives want to go home and take a cold shower and wait another four years for a date, they will have to dance the least ugly girl at the party this time around.

Eliminating the two bigger threats and going hand to hand with the lesser McCain is the best they can do in 2008. But then they will have to do a better job of uniting on principle in 2010 and beyond.


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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Because... you can’t get everything you want in one election? Because you can only get half of what you want in one election?

That’s brilliant!


241 posted on 02/27/2008 1:51:07 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

The founders indeed FORMED the two party system, federalists and anti-federalists. Try your history book again.

The founders grew those two parties into the two parties we have today and they very much supported the two party system for one simple reason...

Three or more parties guarantees MINORITY rule by default. And minority rule is NOT a “representative republic.”


242 posted on 02/27/2008 1:54:19 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: From One - Many

I’ll live either way...

The question is, will freedom and liberty live either way?


243 posted on 02/27/2008 1:55:56 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

political parties seem to come and go...don’t they?


244 posted on 02/27/2008 1:56:13 PM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Justice has endured over the loss of political parties, and there have been worse times than now.....you figure it out. When the party ignores 1/3 or more of its voting block...that party is destine for failure. now go vote your way...I’ll vote mine...after all this is why we are Americans.


245 posted on 02/27/2008 1:59:52 PM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

I wish to hell you people would make up your minds..or should I say mind.

If I had a nickel for every time I saw a post stating that the primaries are the place to vote your choice I’d be rich. Now I’m reading just the opposite. Everybody has to unite behind one person....even in the primaries.

And just who gets to choose that person? Who gets to decide what the definition of conservative is? And if this isn’t a Republican website then why does “our” choice always have to be a Republican?


246 posted on 02/27/2008 2:00:05 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: roses of sharon

“All I ask for at this point, is a ruthless SOB to battle the enemy abroad and at home. Can McCain give us that in a VP, at least?”

One thing is certain, Clinton and Obama won’t.

I’d like to see McCain choose a “right-wing” conservative as a running mate. But I don’t have even that much confidence in McCain at this moment.

But I do have full confidence that both Clinton and Obama mean what they say. That they will work tirelessly to run from the war on terror here and abroad, open the borders even further, rubber stamp all illegals, close down Gitmo, the CIA and FBI, beef up the IRS and the tax rates and drive this nation straight into hell...

That’s all I need to know.


247 posted on 02/27/2008 2:00:37 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: org.whodat

So, you like Obama and Clinton better?


248 posted on 02/27/2008 2:01:52 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Grunthor

“If conservatives sit home in record numbers this year and allow that open borders amnesty bastard to lose, what lesson do you think that the Republican Party elites will take from that?”

Conservatives did the equivilent in 1992, 1996 and 2006. What message did the RNC take from those years?


249 posted on 02/27/2008 2:03:21 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Conservatives Don’t Know How to Win

Author is dead Wrong...

Conservatives just won’t Lie and cheat to win, They Play fair with Gutless crooked criminals who will Lie, Cheat, and
do anything to win.
those Rats are called democrats.


250 posted on 02/27/2008 2:03:47 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Grunthor

Agreed...

But did America deserve eight years of Clinton?


251 posted on 02/27/2008 2:04:16 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

So, you helped elect the obvious charlatan, twice? and now you don’t like where the country ended up??? and you want to do it again?


252 posted on 02/27/2008 2:06:00 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

BTW - you have been sending the same message since 1992, the same way, with a protest vote intended to “teach the RNC a lesson.” After 16 years, how’s that working out for you and the RNC in 2008?


253 posted on 02/27/2008 2:08:51 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: cripplecreek

Not me... he’s not my candidate. My candidate dropped out right after South Carolina.

If he continues to get only 35% of the Republican vote, the outcome in November is indeed certain.

We will have you to thank for Obama...


254 posted on 02/27/2008 2:10:40 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

You’re welcome. Now go lay down.


255 posted on 02/27/2008 2:12:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Do you get off spouting the same old crap post after post?? Wouldn’t it better better if you just went in the bathroom and left th rest of us alone.
256 posted on 02/27/2008 2:12:53 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

“when he is the only one running who has actually destroyed a chunk of the Constitution?”

Because you have refused to come to your senses thus far. You still think McCain has done the most damage to the Constitution of the three, demonstrating once again that you have failed to do your homework.

At this late hour, I must assume you will continue to refuse to do the homework necessary to make an intelligent decision. So keep thinking with your emotions...


257 posted on 02/27/2008 2:13:32 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

“The Republican Party is not Conservatism, they have come to loathe Conservatism.”

You wrongly taint the entire party, 70% of whom voted AGAINST McCain by confusing them with a handful of RNC elites in desperate need of retirement.

You want to retire the elites, I’m with you. But if you want to kill the 70% who voted against McCain along with them, which includes me, than I’m not with you.


258 posted on 02/27/2008 2:19:12 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
who should have supported the only candidate who was a true, broad-based, all-around movement conservative - Fred Thompson.

Fred Thompson was a factional candidate too, strong toward the fiscal/libertarians. He had nothing for the Defcons, and arguably came out against the Socons.

259 posted on 02/27/2008 2:21:10 PM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

I stopping funding the RNC years ago and started giving only to individual campaigns. This is a MUST, but not much of a secret!

But you too make the mistake of painting the entire GOP with that broad brush. The entire GOP is people just like you and me, 70% of whom voted against McCain.

Who is your target here? The entire GOP or just the handful of RNC elites who need to be sent to pasture?


260 posted on 02/27/2008 2:21:53 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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