Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Conservatives Have Stepped In It Again!
NewsByUs ^ | February 27, 2008 | JB Williams

Posted on 02/27/2008 6:04:33 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican

When searching for answers as to how we got here in America - here being a steadily accelerating march into Democratic Socialism - there is plenty of blame to go around. Personally, I don’t see an innocent individual in the lot.

Those who consider themselves to be the most politically astute people in America, conservatives, have once again been out-foxed by those they call ignorant. Forest Gump’s momma was right; stupid is as stupid does! Steeped in worthy principles, yes. Politically astute? You must be kidding…

America has exactly the mess of a government it deserves because it always has the government it elected. No matter which partisan group we claim our own, there is no escaping responsibility for where we are as a nation today. In reality, our messy government is a precise reflection of our very messy electorate.

But as a lifelong conservative myself, I want to focus on my conservative brethren in this column. I want to talk to my own peeps!

Before we can advance a conservative agenda in America, we will have to figure out how to advance a conservative agenda within our own party first. Conservatives are going to have to face some hard realities about how our agenda became only a fringe side-show in a nation where most of the population is actually far more conservative than the government it keeps electing.

Conservatives Don’t Know How to Win

So they keep losing and conservatives have once again positioned themselves, or allowed themselves to be positioned, to lose again in 2008. The fact is, they have done both.

Conservatives have proven themselves to be the most ineffective political constituency in America today. The track record can be summed up no other way. Although they represent the principles and values of more than 70 percent of Americans, they can’t seem to get their act together or lead that 70 percent of the country in a single direction. So, the better organized minority movement wins.

Unlike their opposition across the aisle, who not only find a way to give themselves several good socialist nominees to choose from, but find a way to hand pick their Republican opponent in each election cycle as well, conservatives can’t even figure out how to advance a conservative candidate within their own party.

Now, conservatives can uncharacteristically blame everyone else if they want, but if this doesn’t change, the conservative movement is indeed dead in America. If it’s not our fault, then it’s not within our power to fix it. I prefer to believe it is our fault for this reason alone.

Over-ruling RNC Powers

Frustrated conservatives are right. Their party is currently controlled by liberal-lites running the RNC and it is very difficult to advance a conservative agenda in this environment. But they are wrong when they accept no individual responsibility for how that came to be. If they continue to accept no responsibility for the errors of the past, then they have no power to change those errors in the future. Such a move is equal to blind surrender.

To advance a conservative agenda in today’s Republican Party, we will have to advance it against the will of the current Republican National Committee leadership, which is clearly convinced that they must join Democratic Socialists in the pander war, just to compete with them on a national stage. Are they right?

The Politically Principled Suicide Trap

Conservatives have stepped in this trap repeatedly over the last several election cycles and as of this writing, they still don’t recognize the trap, let alone how to avoid stepping in it again and again.

Conservatives are all about their principles, as they should be. They are also all about individuality. They seldom see a need to play well with others in pursuit of a common goal. They are the most independent minded folks on earth and they are always firm in their personal belief structures, so much so, that they will go down in flames before conceding a single issue, in the name of principle.

As a staunch conservative myself, I very much identify with the standard characteristics of the average American conservative. I too am very opinionated, principled and committed to my beliefs, sometimes to the ultimate detriment of those very principles.

But as a political analyst, I also see how these natural conservative characteristics are exploited in the political process, at the expense of the conservative movement at large.

In short, conservatives have been repeatedly triangulated on the issues by the opposition. They have been systematically set up in the primaries, to take the fall in the general election no matter which direction they turn. Time after time, the election is over for conservatives, before it even begins. Then conservatives fight to make themselves completely irrelevant.

Winning Battles to Lose the War

Contrary to common claims made in the current infighting among conservatives, conservatives never fail to be conservative. They don’t know how to be anything else. What they fail to be is united in that effort.

Unlike conservatives, liberals are all about group think and group movement. Liberals are not independent minded nor are they individually responsible for anything. They think together and move as one, because they take the need to unite and their individual responsibility to play an active part in the group, very seriously. Conservatives oppose this very notion by nature of being conservative and divided, they fall, election after election.

The 2008 Republican primaries provide a vivid glimpse into just how true this is. Conservatives were very committed to their individual ideas of what conservative means, so much so that they remained completely divided between no less than eight primary candidates, each of them more conservative than John McCain. Divided among the eight, the liberal wing of the party was able to unite and advance the most liberal Republican candidate in the race, John McCain.

Now Comes the Triangulation Part

Once the RNC has a candidate who is almost as liberal as the Democratic Socialists running in the DNC, conservatives are caught in the very trap they were trying to avoid. No matter which direction they turn in the general election, they will be supporting another national shift to the left, even if they refuse to play any part at all.

If they vote for the RNC leftist who emerged from the RNC primaries with 35 percent of the Republican vote, they are voting for a shift to the left. If they stay home on Election Day, vote third party or write in some non-factor, they are allowing Democratic Socialists across the aisle to win by default, just as Clinton did in 1992 and 1996 with less than 50 percent of the popular vote.

If they cross over in protest and vote for a Democratic Socialist to teach the RNC a lesson, they have voted for a giant leap to the left and the only message they are sending the RNC is that the RNC must move even further left in the next election cycle to get back those votes that went Democrat in the last cycle.

Checkmate! No matter which direction conservatives move now, they are moving the nation left, at odds with all of the principles and values they hold dear. Stupid is as stupid does!

Once Triangulated and Cornered

Like a pit viper backed into a corner, out come the fangs. Now cornered and pissed off, conservatives have their fangs out and they lash out at everything that moves. Anyone who failed to support their guy in the primaries is the enemy now. Anyone who sees the need to at least block a giant leap to the left in November is also an enemy.

Reality is, only about 35 percent of Republicans support John McCain. The other 65 percent who voted against McCain can never be accurately accused of supporting McCain, only opposing the greater opposition.

But more than 35 percent will indeed vote for McCain come November. Not because they have some new found love for John McCain or his many shortcomings, but because they will be NO part of sitting the First Family of Political Crime, Presidents Clinton, or the freshman cut-n-run Marxist from Illinois in the Oval Office.

Isn’t it funny how those who openly oppose Clinton and Obama are now seen by some conservatives as liberals, the enemy, when it is their vote or non-vote, of conservatives to angry to think straight, that will elect the most Socialist candidate running for office in the name of opposing McCain?

This is how fuzzy logic can become, once cornered in a trap.

How Silly Are We Now?

The infighting among conservatives has reached a deafening pitch. To see just how dangerous a cornered conservative can be to his movement, consider these postings at a well-known conservative discussion board Free Republic.

In reaction to my recent New Media Journal column titled “Why Conservatives Must Vote in 2008,” and some of the posters, hundreds of blogging conservatives lash out against their conservative brethren. So consumed by rage once cornered in the same old trap, they lose all perspective of who the real enemy is and cannibalize their own movement.

“This article was written by a self-important self-flagellating idiot. My conservative vote did not count for a whole lot in moving forward a conservative agenda whenever I voted for guys named George Bush. Now, this clown blames conservatives for being SO POWERFUL as to being blamed for allowing the Democrats to takeover congress. What I did at the polls in 2006 had NOTHING to do with the Republicans losing the congressional majorities. And if the Hillary the Republicans greatest hope for retaining the WH does not get the nomination, my conservative vote will have little to do with the 2008 election.” – Freeper by the screen name Biblebelter

“I think the RNC is going to be very surprised at the vote total for conservatives that do NOT coattail for McCain.” – Freeper, The Citizen Soldier

“If I vote my conscience, none of the current GOP or DEM candidates will get it. If I decide to hold my nose, McCain will get my vote. IF I decide to hold my nose. Your telling me that if I don't vote for McCain is voting for Hitlery or Obomba is not making me think of voting for McCain.” – Freeper, Just another Joe

“Just more McCainite fearmongering they think they can bully us with. Sorry, but my greater fear is we get another Arnold Schwarzenegger. A Hillary or Obama might give us a GOP majority in ‘10.” – Freeper, Free Vulcan

“At what point do you just realize it’s over. Nobody thinks the Rat party is going to go back to being a southern, agrarian, pro-slave party. The shift to a big government, elitist, urban party was incremental and permanent. The shift of the Republican Party BACK to a big government, elitist, country club party is permanent. The majority of the party is not in control in which case the majority should leave the system in which we get screwed.” – Freeper, demshateGod

These are but a few from hundreds of comments. Not all of them are self-defeating like these. The issue isn’t whether or not these posters have a valid point, but rather, what is the productive nature of their point? Can anything productive come from the massive infighting underway with the conservative base of the Republican Party? Anything positive for conservatives I mean?

“The McCattle have already surrendered and become democrats.”- Freeper, cripplecreek - This comment on the basis of opposing Obama and Clinton?

Have conservatives really lost sight of who the real enemy is here? Do they really accept no personal responsibility for how we got here, or what happens next? Are they really throwing in the towel, not just for the GOP, but for the nation, or are they simply having a momentary temper tantrum?

Most disturbing to me when reading comments on a conservative discussion board like Free Republic, is the fact that you will rarely read a comment based on a productive idea of how to change what every conservative is indeed upset about.

Hundreds of complainers and finger-pointers can be read at Free Republic and countless other conservative blogs. But for all the principled opposition to what is happening to our party and our country, where are the conservative ideas of what to do about it? These kinds of comments are suspiciously absent among conservatives at present.

Conservatives are supposed to be part of the solution, not a part of the problem. Yet they seem unable to move beyond their rage to a place where productive solutions can emerge. I expect this kind of emotionally charged hand wringing and indiscriminate lashing out from liberals, but from conservatives too now?

If the Conservative Movement is Dead

There is but one reason. Conservatives failed to unite to move their agenda forward. Divided, they have fallen. Continuing to divide will only worsen the problem, not provide a solution.

My grandfather was a WWI veteran and although he passed many years ago, he remains one of my heroes today. He repeated the following advice so many times as I was growing up, that there was no way to wash it from my memory.

He would say, “If you have nothing productive to add to the conversation, say nothing at all. That alone will be more productive.”

Conservatives are getting their ass handed to them by an anti-American minority and the best response they can come up with is to beat on each other in a fit of rage and further divide their foot soldiers? Well, they bicker and divide at their own demise…

Three Undeniable Realities

1) McCain sucks! But one of three candidates will sit in the Oval Office for the next four years, McCain, Clinton or Obama. When faced with three dangerous attackers, and only two bullets left, shoot the two most dangerous attackers and go hand to hand with the least of the threats remaining. To address none of the three is certain suicide. 2) Most Americans are far more conservative than the governments they elect. The socialist minority will continue to win so long as conservatives fail to unite in productive measure. 3) Conservative principles are not welcome in any socialist country. So, stopping Democratic Socialists from sitting in the Oval Office at any cost is a must.

Or, we could spend the next seven months regurgitating all the well-known ways that John McCain is a horrible Republican alternative to the completely unacceptable Democratic Socialists he’s running against. It won’t change anything, but you can sound more conservative at cocktail parties by showing how smart you are to recognize this reality.

McCain was indeed a ten o’clock two. But he’s fast becoming a two o’clock ten! Unless conservatives want to go home and take a cold shower and wait another four years for a date, they will have to dance the least ugly girl at the party this time around.

Eliminating the two bigger threats and going hand to hand with the lesser McCain is the best they can do in 2008. But then they will have to do a better job of uniting on principle in 2010 and beyond.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anyonebutmccain; betrayed; conservatism; conservatives; deafrino; deathofthegop; democraticsocialism; democratparty; democrats; elections; fundedbysoros; gop; mccain; mccainsoros; mccrazy; mcinsane; mcsoros; mctraitor; mctreason; primaries; rinomccain; rnc; saynotornc
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 401-407 next last
To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

You need anger management...

Yo9u are not thinking clearly. I said no such thing. But because you think I did, you are off on your temper tantrum at the expense of your own professed principles...

Brilliant!


161 posted on 02/27/2008 11:26:34 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | View Replies]

To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

You need anger management...

You are not thinking clearly. I said no such thing. But because you think I did, you are off on your temper tantrum at the expense of your own professed principles...

Brilliant!


162 posted on 02/27/2008 11:26:57 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | View Replies]

To: ZULU

Ditto!

Just not as much as Obama or Clinton.


163 posted on 02/27/2008 11:28:38 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 128 | View Replies]

To: KC_Conspirator

Not just a sad truth, but the root of our problem.


164 posted on 02/27/2008 11:30:38 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 130 | View Replies]

To: bill1952

Thanks Bill! We have seven months to agree... LOL


165 posted on 02/27/2008 11:33:26 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat

Really?

If they got your message in 1992, 1996 and 2006, why are they still moving left genius?


166 posted on 02/27/2008 11:34:40 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies]

To: PlainOleAmerican
Clinton, Obama, McCain, they have all behaved badly for this country in the past 6 years, they are all with the UnAmerican Democrat Party, McCain just refuses to admit it for fear of not realizing his dream of becoming CIC. He cannot even defend Iraq without a million caveats to discredit the war, and I just don't believe him when he talks about winning. I see him apologizing, profusely instead, and pulling out as soon as he can get away with it, using all kinds of international complaints excuses.

As for the Congress, of course we should replace the Dims and RINO, and may I add the MSM.

The MSM/DNC/Academia/Hollywood war room should be infiltrated, competed with, and destroyed, 40 years of their reign is enough.

167 posted on 02/27/2008 11:37:50 AM PST by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat

But you’re the petty little fool who will help Obama or Hillary win the White House...

I’ve made a note of that!


168 posted on 02/27/2008 11:39:21 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | View Replies]

To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

“The odds are they will do less harm. They are AS evil, but less capable.”

You’ll never make it in Vegas with these calculations...

Clinton-Obama with a Democrat congress, a liberal SCOTUS and a Marxist press, and you think McCain is “more dangerous” by your calculations?

This is bankrupt thinking at it’s best!


169 posted on 02/27/2008 11:43:34 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies]

To: Tanniker Smith
When the logic is sound, attack the grammar?
170 posted on 02/27/2008 11:45:57 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 141 | View Replies]

To: skeeter

Does your conscience support electing Hillary or Obama? Because your strategy does...


171 posted on 02/27/2008 11:47:24 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 143 | View Replies]

To: From One - Many

“you do realize what you are doing I hope,”

Don’t know if that’s a safe bet??? LOL

But as one of the three is likely to sit in the Oval Office for the next four years, if none of the three suit you, what’s your next move?


172 posted on 02/27/2008 11:49:28 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 144 | View Replies]

To: From One - Many

Were you not around when your party arranged the RNC primaries to net this result? Or were you just not engaged?


173 posted on 02/27/2008 11:50:54 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 145 | View Replies]

To: PlainOleAmerican

Hillobama WANTS to damage the Constitution, McCain has done it already and will do more. You want me to back a successful enemy of the Republic over a wannabe.

That’s genius.


174 posted on 02/27/2008 11:51:09 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 169 | View Replies]

To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

“Exactly. And I’m supposed to accept blame?****”

Where were you when your party decided to arrange the primary process to net a liberal result? Who were you screaming at then? What did you do to stop it then?


175 posted on 02/27/2008 11:53:05 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies]

To: pennboricua

Or so the RNC and MSM told you...

In reality, Fred was the only candidate not pandering for your vote or anyone elses. He was the only one simply saying what was real in an adult fashion. It was a miscalculation to treat American voters as adults, agreed. But it was a miscalculation are true conservative leader is likely to make...


176 posted on 02/27/2008 11:55:45 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 150 | View Replies]

To: Sloth

So, in other words, you want to be spoon fed the answer to your question?

Did you go read his hundreds of solutions at the archive site I gave you? Or are you loess interested in solutions than attacking the writer?

Are you a fraud, or did you miss the link provided?


177 posted on 02/27/2008 11:59:07 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 152 | View Replies]

To: PlainOleAmerican
If they got your message in 1992, 1996 and 2006, why are they still moving left genius?

That is your line mickey mouse brain, and because you make it up doesn't mean it's true.

178 posted on 02/27/2008 11:59:08 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 166 | View Replies]

To: org.whodat
So, you’re saying, “don’t confuse me with the hard facts, I prefer to help Obama and Clinton out of ignorance than actually research the subject matter...” ???

At least we have now established what you are.

How sad!

Go ahead. Elect Obama or Clinton if you want. But don’t try convincing any real conservative that it is some kind of informed conservative move...LOL

179 posted on 02/27/2008 12:01:50 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 153 | View Replies]

To: pennboricua

As opposed to your solution, elect Obama or Clinton?

Damn...the writer is smarter than I thought!


180 posted on 02/27/2008 12:02:56 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 155 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 401-407 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson