Posted on 02/27/2008 6:04:33 AM PST by PlainOleAmerican
When searching for answers as to how we got here in America - here being a steadily accelerating march into Democratic Socialism - there is plenty of blame to go around. Personally, I don’t see an innocent individual in the lot.
Those who consider themselves to be the most politically astute people in America, conservatives, have once again been out-foxed by those they call ignorant. Forest Gump’s momma was right; stupid is as stupid does! Steeped in worthy principles, yes. Politically astute? You must be kidding…
America has exactly the mess of a government it deserves because it always has the government it elected. No matter which partisan group we claim our own, there is no escaping responsibility for where we are as a nation today. In reality, our messy government is a precise reflection of our very messy electorate.
But as a lifelong conservative myself, I want to focus on my conservative brethren in this column. I want to talk to my own peeps!
Before we can advance a conservative agenda in America, we will have to figure out how to advance a conservative agenda within our own party first. Conservatives are going to have to face some hard realities about how our agenda became only a fringe side-show in a nation where most of the population is actually far more conservative than the government it keeps electing.
Conservatives Don’t Know How to Win
So they keep losing and conservatives have once again positioned themselves, or allowed themselves to be positioned, to lose again in 2008. The fact is, they have done both.
Conservatives have proven themselves to be the most ineffective political constituency in America today. The track record can be summed up no other way. Although they represent the principles and values of more than 70 percent of Americans, they can’t seem to get their act together or lead that 70 percent of the country in a single direction. So, the better organized minority movement wins.
Unlike their opposition across the aisle, who not only find a way to give themselves several good socialist nominees to choose from, but find a way to hand pick their Republican opponent in each election cycle as well, conservatives can’t even figure out how to advance a conservative candidate within their own party.
Now, conservatives can uncharacteristically blame everyone else if they want, but if this doesn’t change, the conservative movement is indeed dead in America. If it’s not our fault, then it’s not within our power to fix it. I prefer to believe it is our fault for this reason alone.
Over-ruling RNC Powers
Frustrated conservatives are right. Their party is currently controlled by liberal-lites running the RNC and it is very difficult to advance a conservative agenda in this environment. But they are wrong when they accept no individual responsibility for how that came to be. If they continue to accept no responsibility for the errors of the past, then they have no power to change those errors in the future. Such a move is equal to blind surrender.
To advance a conservative agenda in today’s Republican Party, we will have to advance it against the will of the current Republican National Committee leadership, which is clearly convinced that they must join Democratic Socialists in the pander war, just to compete with them on a national stage. Are they right?
The Politically Principled Suicide Trap
Conservatives have stepped in this trap repeatedly over the last several election cycles and as of this writing, they still don’t recognize the trap, let alone how to avoid stepping in it again and again.
Conservatives are all about their principles, as they should be. They are also all about individuality. They seldom see a need to play well with others in pursuit of a common goal. They are the most independent minded folks on earth and they are always firm in their personal belief structures, so much so, that they will go down in flames before conceding a single issue, in the name of principle.
As a staunch conservative myself, I very much identify with the standard characteristics of the average American conservative. I too am very opinionated, principled and committed to my beliefs, sometimes to the ultimate detriment of those very principles.
But as a political analyst, I also see how these natural conservative characteristics are exploited in the political process, at the expense of the conservative movement at large.
In short, conservatives have been repeatedly triangulated on the issues by the opposition. They have been systematically set up in the primaries, to take the fall in the general election no matter which direction they turn. Time after time, the election is over for conservatives, before it even begins. Then conservatives fight to make themselves completely irrelevant.
Winning Battles to Lose the War
Contrary to common claims made in the current infighting among conservatives, conservatives never fail to be conservative. They don’t know how to be anything else. What they fail to be is united in that effort.
Unlike conservatives, liberals are all about group think and group movement. Liberals are not independent minded nor are they individually responsible for anything. They think together and move as one, because they take the need to unite and their individual responsibility to play an active part in the group, very seriously. Conservatives oppose this very notion by nature of being conservative and divided, they fall, election after election.
The 2008 Republican primaries provide a vivid glimpse into just how true this is. Conservatives were very committed to their individual ideas of what conservative means, so much so that they remained completely divided between no less than eight primary candidates, each of them more conservative than John McCain. Divided among the eight, the liberal wing of the party was able to unite and advance the most liberal Republican candidate in the race, John McCain.
Now Comes the Triangulation Part
Once the RNC has a candidate who is almost as liberal as the Democratic Socialists running in the DNC, conservatives are caught in the very trap they were trying to avoid. No matter which direction they turn in the general election, they will be supporting another national shift to the left, even if they refuse to play any part at all.
If they vote for the RNC leftist who emerged from the RNC primaries with 35 percent of the Republican vote, they are voting for a shift to the left. If they stay home on Election Day, vote third party or write in some non-factor, they are allowing Democratic Socialists across the aisle to win by default, just as Clinton did in 1992 and 1996 with less than 50 percent of the popular vote.
If they cross over in protest and vote for a Democratic Socialist to teach the RNC a lesson, they have voted for a giant leap to the left and the only message they are sending the RNC is that the RNC must move even further left in the next election cycle to get back those votes that went Democrat in the last cycle.
Checkmate! No matter which direction conservatives move now, they are moving the nation left, at odds with all of the principles and values they hold dear. Stupid is as stupid does!
Once Triangulated and Cornered
Like a pit viper backed into a corner, out come the fangs. Now cornered and pissed off, conservatives have their fangs out and they lash out at everything that moves. Anyone who failed to support their guy in the primaries is the enemy now. Anyone who sees the need to at least block a giant leap to the left in November is also an enemy.
Reality is, only about 35 percent of Republicans support John McCain. The other 65 percent who voted against McCain can never be accurately accused of supporting McCain, only opposing the greater opposition.
But more than 35 percent will indeed vote for McCain come November. Not because they have some new found love for John McCain or his many shortcomings, but because they will be NO part of sitting the First Family of Political Crime, Presidents Clinton, or the freshman cut-n-run Marxist from Illinois in the Oval Office.
Isn’t it funny how those who openly oppose Clinton and Obama are now seen by some conservatives as liberals, the enemy, when it is their vote or non-vote, of conservatives to angry to think straight, that will elect the most Socialist candidate running for office in the name of opposing McCain?
This is how fuzzy logic can become, once cornered in a trap.
How Silly Are We Now?
The infighting among conservatives has reached a deafening pitch. To see just how dangerous a cornered conservative can be to his movement, consider these postings at a well-known conservative discussion board Free Republic.
In reaction to my recent New Media Journal column titled “Why Conservatives Must Vote in 2008,” and some of the posters, hundreds of blogging conservatives lash out against their conservative brethren. So consumed by rage once cornered in the same old trap, they lose all perspective of who the real enemy is and cannibalize their own movement.
“This article was written by a self-important self-flagellating idiot. My conservative vote did not count for a whole lot in moving forward a conservative agenda whenever I voted for guys named George Bush. Now, this clown blames conservatives for being SO POWERFUL as to being blamed for allowing the Democrats to takeover congress. What I did at the polls in 2006 had NOTHING to do with the Republicans losing the congressional majorities. And if the Hillary the Republicans greatest hope for retaining the WH does not get the nomination, my conservative vote will have little to do with the 2008 election.” – Freeper by the screen name Biblebelter
“I think the RNC is going to be very surprised at the vote total for conservatives that do NOT coattail for McCain.” – Freeper, The Citizen Soldier
“If I vote my conscience, none of the current GOP or DEM candidates will get it. If I decide to hold my nose, McCain will get my vote. IF I decide to hold my nose. Your telling me that if I don't vote for McCain is voting for Hitlery or Obomba is not making me think of voting for McCain.” – Freeper, Just another Joe
“Just more McCainite fearmongering they think they can bully us with. Sorry, but my greater fear is we get another Arnold Schwarzenegger. A Hillary or Obama might give us a GOP majority in ‘10.” – Freeper, Free Vulcan
“At what point do you just realize it’s over. Nobody thinks the Rat party is going to go back to being a southern, agrarian, pro-slave party. The shift to a big government, elitist, urban party was incremental and permanent. The shift of the Republican Party BACK to a big government, elitist, country club party is permanent. The majority of the party is not in control in which case the majority should leave the system in which we get screwed.” – Freeper, demshateGod
These are but a few from hundreds of comments. Not all of them are self-defeating like these. The issue isn’t whether or not these posters have a valid point, but rather, what is the productive nature of their point? Can anything productive come from the massive infighting underway with the conservative base of the Republican Party? Anything positive for conservatives I mean?
“The McCattle have already surrendered and become democrats.”- Freeper, cripplecreek - This comment on the basis of opposing Obama and Clinton?
Have conservatives really lost sight of who the real enemy is here? Do they really accept no personal responsibility for how we got here, or what happens next? Are they really throwing in the towel, not just for the GOP, but for the nation, or are they simply having a momentary temper tantrum?
Most disturbing to me when reading comments on a conservative discussion board like Free Republic, is the fact that you will rarely read a comment based on a productive idea of how to change what every conservative is indeed upset about.
Hundreds of complainers and finger-pointers can be read at Free Republic and countless other conservative blogs. But for all the principled opposition to what is happening to our party and our country, where are the conservative ideas of what to do about it? These kinds of comments are suspiciously absent among conservatives at present.
Conservatives are supposed to be part of the solution, not a part of the problem. Yet they seem unable to move beyond their rage to a place where productive solutions can emerge. I expect this kind of emotionally charged hand wringing and indiscriminate lashing out from liberals, but from conservatives too now?
If the Conservative Movement is Dead
There is but one reason. Conservatives failed to unite to move their agenda forward. Divided, they have fallen. Continuing to divide will only worsen the problem, not provide a solution.
My grandfather was a WWI veteran and although he passed many years ago, he remains one of my heroes today. He repeated the following advice so many times as I was growing up, that there was no way to wash it from my memory.
He would say, “If you have nothing productive to add to the conversation, say nothing at all. That alone will be more productive.”
Conservatives are getting their ass handed to them by an anti-American minority and the best response they can come up with is to beat on each other in a fit of rage and further divide their foot soldiers? Well, they bicker and divide at their own demise…
Three Undeniable Realities
1) McCain sucks! But one of three candidates will sit in the Oval Office for the next four years, McCain, Clinton or Obama. When faced with three dangerous attackers, and only two bullets left, shoot the two most dangerous attackers and go hand to hand with the least of the threats remaining. To address none of the three is certain suicide. 2) Most Americans are far more conservative than the governments they elect. The socialist minority will continue to win so long as conservatives fail to unite in productive measure. 3) Conservative principles are not welcome in any socialist country. So, stopping Democratic Socialists from sitting in the Oval Office at any cost is a must.
Or, we could spend the next seven months regurgitating all the well-known ways that John McCain is a horrible Republican alternative to the completely unacceptable Democratic Socialists he’s running against. It won’t change anything, but you can sound more conservative at cocktail parties by showing how smart you are to recognize this reality.
McCain was indeed a ten o’clock two. But he’s fast becoming a two o’clock ten! Unless conservatives want to go home and take a cold shower and wait another four years for a date, they will have to dance the least ugly girl at the party this time around.
Eliminating the two bigger threats and going hand to hand with the lesser McCain is the best they can do in 2008. But then they will have to do a better job of uniting on principle in 2010 and beyond.
This is not really true.
Democrats called Reagan all the same names they have called Bush, a war-monger, a cowboy, a fool, etc. They didn’t like him until later, when he turned out to be right.
At the time, they liked him no better than Bush. Tip O’Neal and Reagan ripped each other on a regular basis, then went for a beer together.
And, Reagan was really no more staunch Republican than McCain, evidenced by Nancy Reagan’s and Micheal Reagan’s recent endorsements of McCain and their public statements that Ronald would vote for McCain.
So conservatives really need to give up the Reagan arguments. They aren’t really accurate in many cases, and they don’t matter anyway. Reagan isn’t ever running for office again.
So, you’re now a member of the Democrat Party?
Or a new member of the 50% of Americans who already don’t vote?
You do realize that inaction is in and of itself, an action with consequences, yes?
"Since it’s statistics you like, give me your statistics on this statement?"
For example: rasmussenreports
"50% don’t vote, so what are they?"
Non-voters.
"65% of Republicans voted against McCain and for someone they thought more conservative than McCain, which is dangerously close to 70%."
Agreed, but that does not mean that 70% of the country is conservative.
"And, Mush of McCain’s support is coming from Democrats and Independents who think he is more conservative than Clinton and Obama."
No argument there.
"So, where are you getting your numbers from? DNC headquarters?"
I have no idea why you're being vitriolic. I'm sorry if I offended.
jw
Any vote against McCain will be interpreted as the RNC not being liberal enough. Check what the RNC learned the last three times conservatives thought they would teach them a lesson in 1992, 1996 and 2006.
If you really believe this, you need to study Obama and Clinton much closer.
McCain is not my guy. But he is the only guy who can stop Clinton or Obama now. I disagree that he is equal to them. He is only equal to them on a few issues, all of which he can be blocked on if we elect conservative control of the senate.
You wish... because that would make you right. But this author has a very long history of being the opposite of your claims and that makes you the ill-informed fool.
Way to grasp the obvious genius... LOL
What a petty little person you are and there is the NEWS!
Makes sense but how much I HATE McCain!!!!!
IMO, look at who owns the government. We the People do not. THEY let us think they do. They are the oligarchy that pays taxes. The 1% that pays 40% of all taxes. The 5% that pay 60%. They gave us 25 years of Bush-Clinton...and would give us another 8-16 if they could, but will settle for McCain if they can’t. Barrack Hussein Obama will never be president.
Until we significantly reform how we tax one another, we will not reclaim our country, and will continue to be used by the oligarchy as they desire.
Of course you are not going to get much real thought or analysis here. There are too many people just spitting angry and running over the cliff with banners waving. Not too many are putting much thought into how to approach the future.
So, electing Obama or Clinton seems more sane to you?
50% don’t vote for anyone, because no candidate represents what they are looking for.
Half of the 50% that do vote, are having increasing trouble knowing what to do.
And your solution is???
I’ll totally second this!
Conservatives didn’t fail to offer a conservative choice. Conservatives failed to unite behind any of those offered. That’s it... There is no more story to it. As a result of this reality, less than 30% of the party advanced McCain with the help of Democrats and Independents in early open primaries.
Before we can change anything else, we will have to change the internal conflict among conservatives, which is evidence here at FR better than anywhere else I have seen.
And also McCain, by his actions, will also have to do the same, or be forced to in November.
However, he can earn my vote as per my tagline.
I might add that every time I start to look at him in a slightly less distasteful manner, he is sure to see another pile of dog crap and go out of his way to step in it.
As he just did in Ohio.
Brilliant strategy. Sigh...
Thank you for your post. - Bill
That is plain old green dripping wet BS.
You are the petty little two digit that posted the BS.
Yet winning elections is about both principle and the electability of the messenger. Hunter failed to grasp the imagination of more than 1% of conservative voters. They bought his principles, but not his ability to lead a winning campaign.
They had to buy both to support him.
Who did freeper’s buy on both counts? Fred Thompson...
And why didn’t Hunter supporters unite behind the most viable conservative available to them, along with the vast majority of conservatives at that moment?
The Republican Party is nothing more than the sum of its parts. The squeaky wheel gets the oil. 70% of the party is being run over by the other 30%... and you think this is somehow the fault of the 30%???
My withdrawal from the process won’t make a bit of difference, since the process does not include me in any way, already.
It matters not which thief is stealing from me, since I will be robbed anyway.
I will have no less input to their presidency than McCain’s, because I will have none. They will do no more damage than McCain, although they will try as hard as he will to bring everything down. I believe he will be more effective than either of them.
The odds are they will do less harm. They are AS evil, but less capable.
Are you really so myopic and petty as to make this mindless defense?
Thanks for stating an obvious which has been stated on FR more than a thousand times already, including by me.
The point remains valid... Conservatives in fact DID support “their” conservative candidates, eight of them, and because they were stuck on their candidate beyond all reason, even the 1% candidates, and failed to unite behind any one conservative, they got McCain...
They made their own bed and now they don’t like it. But it’s their bed now.
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