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How to Hack Into a Boeing 787
Fox News ^
| Wednesday, February 20, 2008
| Jackson Kuhl - Fox News
Posted on 02/26/2008 3:35:45 PM PST by Tank-FL
Last month, technology news sites and blogs breathlessly reported on a Federal Aviation Administration document suggesting that Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner passenger jet may be vulnerable to computer hackers.
Boeing now says that the problem was fixed even before the FAA issued its warning. But there may be yet another way bad guys could get into the plane's control system, one that neither the company nor the FAA may have noticed.
The FAA was specifically concerned that a passenger could use the on-board entertainment network, which personal laptops can plug into, to access the plane's navigation system and disable or take over the plane.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 787; aerospace; aviation; boeing; cybersecurity; faa; wot
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This is sort of an update to previous posting
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posted on
02/26/2008 3:35:46 PM PST
by
Tank-FL
To: Tank-FL
Not to worry - the onboard version of Microsoft Vista isn’t that capable...and the 787 crews will be trained to troubleshoot memory leaks and reboot the plane as many as five times without needing to land if it locks up in flight. ;)
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posted on
02/26/2008 3:39:54 PM PST
by
Mr. Jeeves
("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
To: Mr. Jeeves
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posted on
02/26/2008 3:43:06 PM PST
by
wastedyears
(This is my BOOMSTICK)
To: Tank-FL
So is it going to called a 787 / SP2 ?
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posted on
02/26/2008 3:50:58 PM PST
by
red-dawg
(When is somebody going to ask Hillary the "boxers or briefs" question.)
To: Tank-FL
Blue Screen of Death Hijacking
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posted on
02/26/2008 4:15:17 PM PST
by
Syntyr
( Freepers - In the top %5 of informed Americans!)
To: Tank-FL
The problem is that all three are linked.Time to de-link them.
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posted on
02/26/2008 4:17:45 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
Talked to a Delta 747/777 Captain about the new 787.
Very nervous about it. No mechanical backups - all electronic stem to stern to save weight.
There are questions about how to certify it.
It’ll be interesting. The fact that somebody thought linking the entertainment system to the navigation system was a good idea, either at BCS or somewhere else, tells me the guy may be nervous for a reason.
To: RinaseaofDs; Paleo Conservative; namsman
Do the 777 and all of the Airbus fly-by-wire systems have mechanical backups? I don’t think airplanes without mechanical backups are anything new........but I could be wrong.
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posted on
02/26/2008 4:32:38 PM PST
by
SW6906
(6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
To: RinaseaofDs
Planes have been fly by wire for almost 30 years, starting with the A300 and 757/767.
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posted on
02/26/2008 4:36:06 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
I don't trust fly-by-wire systems. I'm sure they are very sophisticated but if the computer system goes down, there needs to be direct hydraulic control of the plane.
The original fly-by-wire system had actual...wires going to the control surfaces. Can't hack it.
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posted on
02/26/2008 4:38:54 PM PST
by
Sender
(Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits.)
To: Sender
I believe that there has been only one mishap caused by faulty FBW computers and that was with a prototype A320 (or maybe it as an A340) that crashed at an air show in Europe somewhere.
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posted on
02/26/2008 4:42:12 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
Stories like this get mileage because the dinosaurs in the media are not merely having their lunch eaten by new communications technologies - they are in complete ignorance of them. I seriously doubt that Boeing has left open an opportunity in such an important product. But if it were true - you'd never know from the wire stories on this subject - they are devoid of even whiffs of jargon that would suggest the writer/editor knew what they were writing about. They swallow stories like this (and "black box voting" hysteria) whole, then regurgitate in simpler terms.
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posted on
02/26/2008 4:50:39 PM PST
by
Wally_Kalbacken
(Seldom right but never in doubt)
To: Tank-FL
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posted on
02/26/2008 5:10:26 PM PST
by
VRW Conspirator
(Decoder rings for sale: Freep mail me)
To: Tank-FL
Very likely that the Aircraft Systems Network is completely separate from the Aircraft Entertainment Network. Cross connecting the Aircraft Systems Network with the public would be negligent. Perhaps a struggling competitor is propagating this redherring.
To: SW6906
I was surprised to hear him say this too.
His point was it was all hydraulic and all electronic. No mechanical back ups for anything.
Fly-by-wire is something else.
To: Tank-FL
Does Fox News not recognize that maybe, if this is actually possible, they shouldn’t do a story on it and give some Mecca minded geek ideas?
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posted on
02/26/2008 5:44:25 PM PST
by
BILLNHILL MAKE ME ILL
(Never forget our troops or what they are doing for us...)
To: Tank-FL; Paleo Conservative
Wi Fi?
The are going to have wi fi?
What spec are they going to use? Anything short of rotating 256-bit WPA2 keys on a 802.11N network with non-broadcasting ID calls is suicide! And that is todays tech.
Let's not have the Dreamliner become synonymous with RIP Boeing. If the security measures aren't changed and there ever is a terrorist attack, Boeing will be litigated out of existence.
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posted on
02/26/2008 6:05:03 PM PST
by
rmlew
(Grievance politics is a mental illness)
To: Sender
“I’m sure they are very sophisticated but if the computer system goes down, there needs to be direct hydraulic control of the plane.”
No way. Hydraulics can fail too. I don’t trust it. There needs to be direct cable and pulley control of all aerodynamic surfaces.
Oh, and those jet turbine things.....Those are bad news. I don’t trust them. Hand-made wooden props attached to piston engines - that are hand started is the only sure way to go. How else can you trust what you are flying in?
To: Tank-FL
WTF?
I can't believe that Boeing would be so incompetent as to connect a passenger entertainment network with a flight control system.
If this is true, then somebody screwed the pooch big time.
To: RFEngineer
LOL, well you can trust what you will. I will fly on them, I don't have much choice, do I? Direct mechanical control of the surfaces is not such an outdated idea as you may believe. My engineering background is rooted in the idea that if something can fail, it will, and there had better be backup. God help us all if it's Windows driving the control surfaces. We might have a WGA error in midflight, directing us to contact Microsoft for a genuine copy of Windows. We might have an update problem. Your plane is now operating in reduced functionality mode. Please contact Microsoft to unlock the tail surfaces.
Seriously, I still don't trust them. Not without a backup.
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posted on
02/26/2008 6:39:42 PM PST
by
Sender
(Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits.)
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