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It makes me very sad to hear this.
1 posted on 02/25/2008 8:31:50 PM PST by sagmanagain
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To: sagmanagain

take a pill


2 posted on 02/25/2008 8:34:16 PM PST by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: sagmanagain; neverdem

pinging


3 posted on 02/25/2008 8:36:46 PM PST by sweetiepiezer
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To: sagmanagain

bummer


4 posted on 02/25/2008 8:42:19 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: sagmanagain

There we go


5 posted on 02/25/2008 8:44:38 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: sagmanagain

I don’t really know squat-all about this other than having had family members and associates turn to anti-depressants. It always seems at first it provides some immediate relief and they sing it’s praises, but invariably they get off them and say it was a false crutch that was weighing them down in the end.

I guess it can be a band-aid if you desparately need relief, but I’ve never heard that it’s a solution to a damned thing.


7 posted on 02/25/2008 8:55:02 PM PST by Sax
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To: sagmanagain

Someone better tell Salamander that the medical world and “big pharma” won out over plain, old-fashioned discipline and self control a long time ago.

Pass my Ritalin please.


8 posted on 02/25/2008 8:59:57 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: sagmanagain
I didn't register to the site to read the entire article but the question I have is did they do any comparisons with "pills/placebos" coinciding with psychotherapy?

Unless a person's medical condition is purely biological, it makes no sense that drugging a person living in a crappy situation would create anything other than a drugged person living in a crappy situation.

It's a bandaid over a gaping wound.

9 posted on 02/25/2008 9:11:29 PM PST by TNdandelion ("I have no doubt that Sen. Clinton would make a good President"--John McCain)
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To: sagmanagain

Wow, another study that is supposed to prove somehow that the majority of clinically depressed individuals would be much better off with no medication. And the less informed will extrapolate that any mentally ill individual should just pull him or herself up by his or her own bootstraps.


10 posted on 02/25/2008 9:15:37 PM PST by mysterio
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To: sagmanagain

I used to get depressed a lot in the 70’s. Too much sugar and no exercise. I got rid of the sugar and started working out every other day. Never had a problem with it after that.

People are taking too many damn pills today. I take an ocassional tylenol.


12 posted on 02/25/2008 9:20:04 PM PST by TheLion
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To: sagmanagain

My understanding is that antidepressants (SSRI’s) regulate seratonin release. They don’t pull a person out of depression; rather, they keep people on an even keel so they can avoid emotional peaks and valleys that can place someone who is already depressed in danger. SSRI’s by themselves aren’t a cure; they’re supposed to be a tool used in conjunction with therapy, counseling, etc. They also are supposed to have a secondary effect on anxiety, but I don’t know the mechanism by which this is supposed to work.

An example of what can happen when seratonin release goes haywire is when kids use XTC (ecstasy). Normally, our brains release seratonin at a measured rate, and there is always a certain amount in reserve. Ecstasy causes the brain to release these reserves in a mad rush, which produces the feeling of an emotional high. Unfortunately, as has been seen many, many times, the next day many of these same kids turn suicidal. The brain only has so much reserve seratonin at any given time, and once it’s depleted they are effectively suffering from deep clinical depression. It takes time for the brain to produce enough seratonin to build these reserves again.

The term “antidepressant” is an unfortunate misnomer. They’re better described as “depression regulators” or “depression managers”. What they do is try to keep things under control so treatments like counseling can work.


14 posted on 02/25/2008 9:26:07 PM PST by Windcatcher
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To: sagmanagain
They are no better than a placebo except
when you abruptly stop when you become a mass murderer !

15 posted on 02/25/2008 9:27:08 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: sagmanagain

A big problem with most of these studies is that patients expect the pills to do something that they don’t. They don’t make everything better, and they don’t do it instantly. People want a pill to make all the problems go away, and no pill can do that. They don’t do anything else to fix their problems and, when the pills alone don’t make everything OK they blame the pills.

I wonder how many of these pills are prescribed by GP’s who do no follow-up and don’t work to get the patient the counseling they need.


16 posted on 02/25/2008 10:10:02 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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One key to fighting depression is exersize. Another is eating a balanced diet. Pills might provide some with short-term benefits, but in the long run it’s not the best answer.


18 posted on 02/25/2008 10:39:40 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: sagmanagain

That’s depressing. In fact, I’m depressed that I’m depressed. Now I’m really depressed.


21 posted on 02/26/2008 11:17:30 AM PST by TexasRepublic (When hopelessness replaces hope, it opens the door to evil.)
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