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To: Puppage

It did on almost all Japanese planes during the war.


15 posted on 02/25/2008 8:47:26 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: Emperor Palpatine; Puppage

I believe he sai “A” bullet hole.

It usually took a few dozen to bring down an aircraft.


31 posted on 02/25/2008 8:53:17 AM PST by MacDorcha (Arm yourself!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
It did on almost all Japanese planes during the war.

Yeah, hundreds of rounds into a 60+ year old prop plane. Not a great comparison.

Have you ever seen the "hole tests" performed on modern jetliners, hmm?

32 posted on 02/25/2008 8:54:09 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

-—and it took an average of 12000 rounds of .50 BMG to do so —both in the Pacific and European theaters of war—


66 posted on 02/25/2008 9:25:45 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
It did on almost all Japanese planes during the war.

Do you have any idea of what constitutes an anti-aircraft gun? These are machine guns, often mounted in banks of 2 or more, firing between 450 and 600 rounds per minute, PER GUN! The only way that a single round of .50BMG would bring down a Japanese plane would be if it were an incindiary round that made a very lucky hit, causing the plane to explode, or more likely, a very lucky hit, killing the pilot. Otherwise it wasn't unusual to have hundreds or even thousands of rounds fired for a single airplane to be brought down. The vast majority of all rounds fired missed the planes.

Mark

158 posted on 02/25/2008 10:57:12 AM PST by MarkL
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To: Emperor Palpatine
It did on almost all Japanese planes during the war.

Generally not just one, unless it was "golden BB" that got the pilot or something really critical, like the fuel pump on a single engine aircraft. And I'd wager none of them were from 4 miles away, nor was the one bullet the only one fired. Probably hundreds were fired at aircraft for each one that hit an aircraft. A few hundred yards, maybe 1/2 mile, would be a much more common range. Oh, and they used incendiary and tracer ammunition. The tracers served two purposes, the main one being to allow "walking" the bullet stream onto the target, since they allowed you to see where the bullets were going, and a secondary purpose to ignite any fuel that might be around as a result of other hits.

The Japanese and Germans both thought the .50 as too puny for the job, and armed their aircraft with cannon, which fire explosive projectiles, albeit usually at a lower rate.

397 posted on 02/26/2008 7:22:15 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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