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Bond Insurer Plans a Split to Protect Ratings
New York Times ^ | 2-23-08

Posted on 02/23/2008 2:52:20 PM PST by nicmarlo

Ambac Financial Group, the embattled bond insurance company, plans to split itself in two in a bid to safeguard its top credit ratings and avert losses on securities that it guarantees for big banks.

The company also hopes to raise $3 billion to bolster its finances, a person who has seen Ambac’s plans said Friday. An announcement could come as early as Monday, assuming credit ratings agencies approve the measures.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; finance
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1 posted on 02/23/2008 2:52:22 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Halgr; Travis McGee; grey_whiskers

ping!


2 posted on 02/23/2008 2:52:46 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo

Nice technique.


3 posted on 02/23/2008 2:54:56 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: nicmarlo

The news that lead to a 200 point turn around in the DOW late Friday before the close.


4 posted on 02/23/2008 2:57:28 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

We’ll see what Monday brings.

By separating the toxic waste (CDO’s) from the monolines...I can’t see that this is going to be good news, as who will want the crap that will then be downgraded? And then there’s the later bank writedowns....and then there are the likely lawsuits....


5 posted on 02/23/2008 3:00:29 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo

“The plan to shore up the guarantors is also critical for banks like Citibank, UBS and Merrill Lynch. If the firm that insures their collateralized debt obligations and other securities does not have a high credit rating and substantial capital, the banks would have to acknowledge substantial losses in their portfolios.”

Yup. Can’t have that.

So they are breaking into two entities; one covering munis and one covering private CDOs.

They want to safeguard the shareholders, but who is going to hold the bag?


6 posted on 02/23/2008 3:00:43 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Gondring

Yeah........wonder what the judges will say when the lawsuits begin to be filed.....class actions/en masse?


7 posted on 02/23/2008 3:01:36 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: OpusatFR

Good question. And the banks are deciding what to do.

This shell game is only stalling the inevitable.


8 posted on 02/23/2008 3:02:24 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo
By separating the toxic waste (CDO’s) from the monolines...I can’t see that this is going to be good news, as who will want the crap that will then be downgraded? And then there’s the later bank writedowns....and then there are the likely lawsuits....

Darn. I wish I was a lawyer. There's a billion dollar pay day here. Easy money for some lucky law firm.

9 posted on 02/23/2008 3:04:36 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: nicmarlo

Between the government bail out of the mortgage holders ostensibly through Fannie Mae, and now the hot potato throw with the monolines, do you get the sense that this is inflationary as hell?


10 posted on 02/23/2008 3:05:02 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Always Right

There’ll be pay days for some......and, unfortunately, a big shock for others along with huge losses.


11 posted on 02/23/2008 3:06:10 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo
Isn't this how Hillary made her fortune in cattle futures?
12 posted on 02/23/2008 3:06:57 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: OpusatFR

There’s definite inflation going on. And if the Feds keep putting money into the markets...that’s more inflation.


13 posted on 02/23/2008 3:07:25 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo

So long as they continue to manipulate the long bond lower and make the yield curve more steep, the economy will be just fine.


14 posted on 02/23/2008 3:08:34 PM PST by montag813
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To: Mark was here

I remember reading something about that some time ago....to answer your question, thought, I can’t recall the specifics.


15 posted on 02/23/2008 3:08:46 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo
This shell game is only stalling the inevitable.

How else do you keep the Ponzi scheme going? The Financing-Debt Complex will not be denied! "There must be IRCs circulating somewhere, I just know it!"

16 posted on 02/23/2008 3:08:59 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: montag813

That’s only what they want you to think.

That’s not the reality of the situation, though. This is smoke and mirrors as they try to find how to fix what cannot be fixed.


17 posted on 02/23/2008 3:09:41 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: Gondring
The Financing-Debt Complex will not be denied!

got that right.

18 posted on 02/23/2008 3:10:43 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo

“The plan to shore up the guarantors is also critical for banks like Citibank, UBS and Merrill...

One last thought. If these three funnel loans to the monolines, then intend to take the segregated muni portfolio as collateral on the funds, won’t that leave the hedges and other mutual funds holding the bag consisting of toxic waste and thus giving the shareholders, the least able to absorb a loss, the finger?

They intend to shovel the loss onto everybody else and cover their rumps.

I would do it this way, but for my conscience and a sense of morals and ethics and an uncompromising belief that what goes around will eventually come around either in this life or the next.

Got a pitchfork?


19 posted on 02/23/2008 3:18:32 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: OpusatFR
They intend to shovel the loss onto everybody else and cover their rumps.

Bingo!

20 posted on 02/23/2008 3:21:39 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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