Posted on 02/22/2008 4:36:57 PM PST by Daffynition
Hillary Clinton just raised her campaign pledge for universal health care to the level of a new Constitutional right, telling a crowd in De Pere, Wis., today that the way things stand in America it’s OK to discriminate against the sick.
It’s actually an idea being floated by Wisconsin Rep. Steve Kagen, a doctor who introduced Clinton here at St. Norbert’s College. (She gave him credit.)
But Hillary embraced it wholly, and made it her own.
“Under our Constitution, no one is supposed to be discriminated against. That’s part of our values, that’s our law in America. Except sick people can be discriminated against,” she said, recouting Kagen’s argument, which he plans to try and turn into legislation.
“When you’re sick you can lose your insurance; when you’re sick, you can be charged so much more that you can’t pay for it,” before segueing into her own familiar litany of people’s health care tragedies, and apparently embracing Kagen’s concept.
“We have to start asking ourselves, ‘Do we want to enshrine discrimination in our health care system, the one area where of our lives where we’re most vulnerable?’” Clinton told the crowd.
“The Constitution says you can’t discriminate against somebody because of what color they are or what religion they are,” she went on. “Why is it OK to discriminate against somebody who is born with a heart defect, or who is diagnosed with prostate cancer?
“I think it’s time we say, ‘We’re not going to let the health insurance industry say who lives and who dies.and who gets health care in this country,” she concluded to applause that drowned out her final words.
Rep. Kagen, it seems, is onto something in his district around Green Bay.depereA021808.jpg For her part, Clinton has talked about health care being a moral right, but we can’t recall her ever elevating it to the Constitutional level before. We’re betting we hear more of this from her.
Rep. Steve Kagen has received a warning letter from the FDA regarding his practice’s apparent violation of federal law for manufacturing and selling allergy shots without a valid license. Kagen’s clinics are compounding and selling allergy injection such as Poly RW, Super Ragweed, Poly Grass and Super Grass to his patients.
Steve Kagen, the newly elected Democratic Representative from Wisconsin, who insulted First Lady Laura Bush and bragged of it along with alleged confrontations with VP Cheney and WH advisor Karl is now being praised by the Huffington Post, where Kagen is now known as a “firebrand.”
How did this woman graduate from law school?
Geez, Jim - all these years we've labored under the delusion that we might understand some of the principles of the Constitution, and the whole time Madame Hillary has been waiting patiently to explain it to us...
If health care is a constitutional right … why haven’t we not had it since 1787 when the US Constitution was written? Mayhap the framers didn’t understand what they were writing? ;-)
No—our last defense will be our guns!
No—our last defense will be our guns!
Democratic Congressional Committee’s official web page, Kagen, a doctor, “for seven years was the Allergy Consultant for CNN.”
Newly elected Rep. Steven Kagen, a rich allergist who self-financed his campaign in Wisconsin,
Kagen told a group of activists that after he found himself in the restroom with Rove, he blocked the White House deputy chief of staff’s departure by holding the door closed. According to Kagen, he then said: “You’re in the White House and you think you’re safe. . . . My name’s Dr. Multimillionaire and I kicked your ass.”
I know, I’m not arguing against you. This is a bit of a sidebar quetion. We do have more rights than those listed in the Constitution. But, why are some things rights and others like driving priveleges?
“...she can say it says anything she wants it to say. The media will repeat it, and it becomes the accepted truth.”
And she’ll appoint the SC judges to set it in stone too.
What a bunch of BS. The whole point of the Consitution is to protect our God given rights from gov’t. These types of rights are called negative rights, for example free speech, religion, property, etc. There is nothing in the Constitution or its history that the document is about positive rights, the so-called rights to freebies like education, as Her Majesty shrilled health care, housing, etc. If health care is a right then the Supreme Court could order huge tax increases to pay for this right. There have been cases in state courts, for example in NY, where these state constitution have written into them the positive right to a public education. Some liberal do-gooders sued and won claiming the level of funding for public education was inadequate and the courts have ordered massive increases in public school spending.
Nothing that requires the effort or labor of another can be a right.
Now that refines the question to a new level of cognizance,.. hmmmmm...
You're almost right. If it's a right, it is a right in that government cannot prevent you from purchasing health care. It doesn't mean that it has to be provided to you for free. Free speech is a right, but that doesn't mean that the government has to provide you with your own personal radio station or newspaper. It just means that it cannot stop you from saying or publishing what you want. You have a right to personal firearms, but don't expect the government to provide you with one for free so you aren't discriminated against.
Let’s seeeee...
She didn’t campaign worth a minute in Wisconsin BEFORE the primary there, and got her fat a%% whipped, and NOW she is campaigning there?
Hasn’t anyone told her that the next 2 big states are Texas and Ohio?
Is the “smartest woman in the world” not only unable to read the Constitution as well as a map of the USA?????
Does she now believe that she can re-write the Constitution? Pay attention, people: The next President will probably be appointing at least ONE Supreme Court judge.
“Amazes me how they can find rights that do not exist yet fail to understand something so explicit as the 2nd amendment. Well, whatever suits their purposes I guess.”
Tyranny of the government was exactly the reason why there is a 2nd Amendment..In Fact it was so important that the Founding Fathers did make it the 2nd Amendment right after the First Amendment which reads :
First Amendment - Religion and Expression
1st Amendment
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/
I'm at a loss why you state this way. You have it backwards. The Constitution again does NOT state our rights. It states limits of government. So no rights were left out.
Another point is that the Constitution outlines limits on government to protect our individual rights. Hillary is misdefining "rights" as the right of individuals to demand government to pay their bills. This is not covered by the Constitution. Lots of people simply don't know what the Constitution is.
In her liberal mind it is a constitutional right, because abortion is a constitutional right. Gotta have gubmint paying for your health care abortion.....
I don’t care if Hillary wants govt to cover health care, just don’t legally rob me and everyone else to cover others. Keep the printing presses making more and more fiat money and pay for it that way. Our money is such a house of cards, there’s no reason (other than oppression) to tax people to ‘cover’ debts. Just print more ‘money’ and take care of it directly. They don’t need my money to make more money out of thin air.
Vote yourself a farm,, ‘Abe Lincoln’””
Was it also Lincoln who said something like: It is easy to be a farmer when your plow is a pencil???
Something like that..
To clarify, I don’t want govt health care (think DMV but health care-wise). I just get frustrated with libs for proposing this for “all” and paying for it by going after the money others earn.
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