Posted on 02/22/2008 2:20:34 PM PST by Delacon
Why are Republicans in Congress trying to help Barack Obama?
Republicans allowed a bill that carries his name, among nine others, to pass the Senate Foreign Relations Committee by voice vote last week – without any hearings. That means there was no roll-call vote so no member can be held accountable. The same bill passed the House by voice vote last year.
The Obama bill passed out of committee with the cooperation of the co-sponsor, Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind. A Rhodes scholar like former President Bill Clinton, Lugar has never seen a United Nations enhancement he didn't like.
Obama's costly, dangerous and altogether bad bill (S. 2433), which could come up in the Senate any day, is called the Global Poverty Act. It would commit U.S. taxpayers to spend 0.7 percent of our Gross Domestic Product on foreign handouts, which is at least $30 billion over and above the exorbitant and wasted sums we already give away overseas.
The bipartisan bill would require the president "to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day."
The bill's other co-sponsors include Sens. Joseph Biden, D-Del., Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., Chris Dodd, D-Conn., Dick Durbin, D-Ill., Russ Feingold, D-Wis., Diane Feinstein, D-Calif., Charles Hagel, R-Neb., and Robert Mendez, D-N.J.
We should be on guard any time politicians use the word "comprehensive," an umbrella word that always shades a lot of mischief. The notion that U.S. taxpayers should or could cut in half the number of people worldwide who live in poverty by 2015 is ridiculous.
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Okay, I’m an asshole and an idiot, and you are a genius and somehow blaming the right people for a bill which came out of a totally Democrat-controlled committee.
With your charm and intelligence, I’m sure you can head up the new party which will defeat the Democrats. I’ll bet you’re good-looking, too.
What’s the name of your new party, genius?
“With your charm and intelligence, I’m sure you can head up the new party which will defeat the Democrats. I’ll bet you’re good-looking, too.
What’s the name of your new party, genius?”
It will still be called the Republican party. Cons will take back the party. Nobody who is a con should be defending this bill. Nobody should be defending republicans who are, as we speak, allowing this bill to hit the senate floor. You dont seem be too upset by that. That makes you a non con because this bill so fundamentally against conservative princibles. People should pick themselves up. If we cant spread that message as conservatives to our own people then what does it say when we pay to help other people avoid doing that?
You will not find anything I’ve said on this thread in support of this bill.
I’ve been posting on this forum for nearly ten years, and you have the audacity to call me a non-conservative simply because I won’t let you smear the entire Republican Party over a bill that hasn’t even gotten to the floor yet and which they were powerless to prevent.
I ask you, how with your short posting history, am I going to be able to differentiate you from a liberal troll coming here to sow dissent among Republicans?
Who is really defending conservatives on this thread?
I’ll never defend Chuck Hagel, but he is NOT the Republican Party.
We ought to pick a few little pocketable nations with good tourist facilities and spend the money keeping them safe and affordable for American tourists; and screw the rest of the world. They will get over it and shape up once they figure out that there is no free ride. Countries have the choice of governments, economic, and social systems and they pretty much get what they ought to based on the choices they make. Life’s tough in the real world.
>>We ought to pick a few little pocketable nations with good tourist facilities and spend the money keeping them safe and affordable for American tourists; and screw the rest of the world. They will get over it and shape up once they figure out that there is no free ride. Countries have the choice of governments, economic, and social systems and they pretty much get what they ought to based on the choices they make. Life’s tough in the real world.<<
That’s a great idea.. Also I thought we should count the money we give Israel, Egypt and Iraq - that would probably put us over right there.
No matter who’s at the helm, they would all sell this country’s sovereignty. Open the flood gates and let everybody and their brother in.
“You will not find anything I’ve said on this thread in support of this bill.”
Yeah right. You’re first inclination was to defend republicans of the demerits of this bill. You are one heck of a conservative.
“I’ve been posting on this forum for nearly ten years, and you have the audacity to call me a non-conservative simply because I won’t let you smear the entire Republican Party over a bill that hasn’t even gotten to the floor yet and which they were powerless to prevent.”
Yeah and McCain has been a “conservative” for 30 years and a hero to boot. I don’t think its audacity to accuse someone who takes a tepid response to this bill. I’ll say it. I’ll say what has been said by conservatives like Derbyshire over at National Review with whom I agree. Republicans these days are ok with big government. Your defense of republicans makes me think you of like mind. In case you haven’t got it, I am smearing the entire republican party. Justifiable so. The republican party gave us big government Bush in 2000 against big government McCain. And now McCain in 08. The republican party destroyed the momentum of 94 victory. The republican party destroyed any claim towards ethics and accountability in 06. I could go on and on about how the republican party that enjoyed the benefits of a conservative moment that started under Reagan ran it into the ground in just 6 years tops. Yeah you are a republican. Keep on defending them.
“I ask you, how with your short posting history, am I going to be able to differentiate you from a liberal troll coming here to sow dissent among Republicans?”
Well trolls tend to insult first. If anyone wants to go back on this tread, they will find that you were the first with the insults and the name calling .
“How retarded is it to blame the Republicans for something passing out of committee that they have ZERO chance of blocking in committee? Pretty damn retarded. You can’t filibuster something in committee. This site is becoming disgusting in blaming Republicans for things Democrats do.
Retarded.”
“Who is really defending conservatives on this thread?”
Me, you republican(as its now defined).
“I’ll never defend Chuck Hagel, but he is NOT the Republican Party.”
Comments are invited on this observation. And you call yourself a con?
Unfortunately, you are correct, pph. It really no longer matters, they have an agenda, and they’re going to ram it down our collective throats.
You’re all over the place here.
You claim that you want to retake the Republican party. Okay, fine. I think you’re a nut, but taking back the party from losers like Chuck Hagel is probably something we could agree upon.
You don’t retake the party by insulting and demolishing it.
That’s what you should be doing to Democrats, and why that’s foreign to you, I don’t know. Perhaps you do.
I never responded to the merits of this bill because the main thing I noticed was your reply #1 which wrongfully and shamefully put the blame on Republicans. You can’t defend that either factually or logically. And you sure can’t reconcile it with your tepid defense of the Republican Party you have spent this entire thread tearing apart.
Why did you post this thread if your comment was to blame Republicans? One FRICKIN’ Republican who is a known RINO signed onto this bill. ONE.
You deliberately ignored all the Democrats who sponsored it. You deliberately ignored the realities of the situation as to whether this could pass their committee.
Why did you do that?
Who exactly is your enemy here?
I am a conservative. You are a troll. Up yours.
Yep, it's out of our hands. We're working on getting local and state conservatives elected.
This country is going to get very dicey. Only thing I can think of is load up, stock up and wait for the STHTF.
I agree on all those things (I just wish I was able to do the latter : (
Look on the bright side, the weak will get weeded out. Who are the weak in this country? lol
I think everyone should stop, take a deep breath, and think before all the knee jerk reactions condemning the republicans for allowing this to pass.
There is a strategy at work here if you take the time to think about what the Republicans have done. They have allowed this bill to pass the committee because it is such a travesty and because it has Obama’s name on it as a sponsor. No republican is on record as having voted for this bill so it becomes fodder for a whole series of campaign commercials during the election.
Oh..........terrific! Can’t wait for the weed-whackers.
: )
This has already passed the full House with a voice vote. If ONLY ONE Republican had the intelligence to ask, they would have had to at least have a recorded vote, but they were all asleep at the wheel. Even if they don't have the votes, let's make the Dems and RINOs put their names to these things. I do blame them for that.
Let's hope it doesn't slide through the Senate like it did the House, because I do believe Dubya will sign it.
I almost busted a gut on that one. Thanks for the hearty laugh!!!!!
lolol!
For a split second I could mentally see you using a weed whacker as a weapon. lol
Boy howdy......would I ever love to! : )
Umm, guy you attacked me. If you want to attack anyone, try Phyllis Schlafly. Nah I ain’t hiding behind her. I think I’ve done ok defending my pov. But I posted this article and said what I said. But its Mrs Schafly’s article. Mrs Schafly is the first on this thread to say and I quote “Republicans allowed a bill that carries his name, among nine others, to pass the Senate Foreign Relations Committee by voice vote last week – without any hearings. That means there was no roll-call vote so no member can be held accountable. The same bill passed the House by voice vote last year.” She pointed a finger at republicans. In case you are stupid, Mrs Schlafly almost single handedly stopped the ERA ammendment from passing. Then as now she spotted an egregious bill that everyone thought was warm and cuddly including republicans and shouted it out of existence. Now she IS aiming her ire at republicans just as she did almost 30 years ago. She wasnt talking to dems(who were all for ERA) back then and she isnt talking to dems now. She is attacking republicans as rightfully she should. I agree with her.
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