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Serbs protesters attack UN police
The Associated Press ^ | February 22, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 8:31:36 AM PST by processing please hold

KOSOVSKA MITROVICA, Kosovo (AP) — Serbs protesting Kosovo's independence for a fifth straight day Friday attacked U.N. police guarding a key bridge in northern Kosovo with stones, glass bottles and firecrackers on Friday.

Serbia's prime minister appealed for calm as the European Union condemned rioting in the capital Belgrade overnight when demonstrators attacked the U.S. embassy and other Western mission. The United States and EU heavyweights Britain, France and Germany have formally recognized Kosovo.

Serbian President Boris Tadic called an emergency meeting of the national security council, saying the riots that engulfed the capital overnight must "never happen again."

In Serb-dominated northern Kosovo, demonstrators waved Serbian flags and chanted "Kosovo is ours!" Police tried to keep protesters off the Kosovska Mitrovica bridge over the Ibar River. The bridge, which divides Kosovo Serbs from ethnic Albanians, has long been a flashpoint of tensions in Kosovo's restive north

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To: fire and forget
The analogy is right on.

Again, it is not - since a Kosovar whose ancestors have continuously lived in Pristina for centuries is not the same as a Mexican who snuck into California last year.

which would have been tantamount to Europe forcing Lincoln to yield to the South’s referendum to secede from the Union

Except, of course, that Europe could have done no such thing. They thought about it at first, but soon realized that they would never be able to back it up.

Over several generations the Serbs in Kosovo became outnumbered by Albanian Muslim immigrants (illegal or no) who averaged six children per household and who practiced the ancient Islamist tradition of killing and driving out the local Christians.

Up until the 1990s, there didn't seem to be much killing and driving out in the area - until all parties in the region, including Serbs, caught ethnonationalist fever.

If the Albanians had been having so many more children, then the Serbs have no one to blame but themselves for ignoring the teaching of their own national church.

And when I say we deserve seeing our embassy there burned, it’s because if someone else (ANYONE ELSE) dared trying to pull something like this on America, which isn’t militarily impotent, you’d join in with everyone else applauding the swift, angry and righteous retribution we’d exact on the idiots who tried it. And we’d all agree they had it coming.

When Germany allied itself with Mexico in WWI to induce Mexico to seize US territory, Americans did not burn down the German or Mexican embassies or torch German restaurants.

Again, your words, no matter how you scramble to justify them, mark you as a traitor.

I’ve been proud of America all my life.

Apparently you and Michelle Obama share the services of her new replacement speechwriter.

The Kosovo affair is a stunning, almost heart-rending departure from America’s tradition of upholding liberty and justice.

In other words, Slobodan Milosevic's Serbia represented liberty and justice. Amazing.

81 posted on 02/22/2008 10:02:15 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: fire and forget
I’ve been proud of America all my life. The Kosovo affair is a stunning, almost heart-rending departure from America’s tradition of upholding liberty and justice.

Ditto. Thank you.

82 posted on 02/22/2008 10:03:07 AM PST by MarMema (kosovo will always be Serbian)
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To: Mogger
He has always wondered if they were being lied to about the Serbs, and if so, why, or if it was just plain ignorance on the part of the US military or state department.

It was deliberate malevolence on the part of Soviet agents within the State Department. Pick up a copy of "Blacklisted By History." The relevant chapter is 7 (I had to look that part up).

83 posted on 02/22/2008 10:05:43 AM PST by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: eleni121
Tthere are conservatives and then there are “CINOS”.

It appears to be a lot more CINO's as of late. Which baffles me.

84 posted on 02/22/2008 10:06:02 AM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: JSDude1
3000 Blue Helmet UNITED STATES SOLDIERS/MARINES should never be fighting under the command of ANYONE but an AMERICAN!

Every American serving UN duty is ultimately under the command of the President. The UN cannot order an American to do anything without the US Commander-In-Chief's consent.

85 posted on 02/22/2008 10:06:56 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

“I support any measure our troops consider necessary against terrorist thugs who firebomb US embassies.”

How about terrorists thugs that take over your country while Nato bombs you into oblivion? Got any problem with that?

Shall we now give over the SouthWest to the Mexicans as they demand? I suppose the UN will be there to protect them, because they sure won’t protect you. Neither will the Serbs, who were once our ally. The Serbs at least have a reason to hate us, unlike Mexico.


86 posted on 02/22/2008 10:10:44 AM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: wideawake

You keep deflecting analogies (our Civil War, Aztlan in the SW, UN in Israel) by saying it’s impossible, we wouldn’t let it happen. Whether we could or could not stop it, are you saying all these scenarios — UN troops in the Southwest, Jerusalem, the 1860s Union — hypothetically would be okay? You’re suggesting it’s fine in Serbia where they are powerless to stop it.


87 posted on 02/22/2008 10:12:51 AM PST by fire and forget
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To: AuntB

It’s encouraging that so many FReepers see through the smoke screen and are hip to what’s hoing on. I’ve held my nose and defended Bush, given him every benefit of the doubt from the beginning, but I can’t conceive of a scenario in which his administration’s calls regarding Serbia are justified.


88 posted on 02/22/2008 10:17:40 AM PST by fire and forget
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To: wideawake

Then the Commander-in-chief is in violation of the US Constitution becuase it gives Congress the power to declare war, and only the Commander-in-chief the imputus to command our fighting forces (not others nations and their commanders).


89 posted on 02/22/2008 10:20:17 AM PST by JSDude1 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56306 "MoveON McCain" To find McCain's Sorros)
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To: wideawake

Wide awake?—asleep at the wheel is more like it!

Mexicans have been living in California longer than the “Euros” who went out there and Meixco has calied California for 160 years.

One day terrorist separatists, the equal of Hashim Thaci in Kosovo, will emerge to lead millions with loyalty to Mexico towards civil war in America - a very real scenario. Mexicans DO have standing and the blue berets will have to enforce “humanitarian” precedent like the mistake of historic proportions this nation has made since the post Cold War era ended and the socialist Clintons managed affairs.


90 posted on 02/22/2008 10:23:54 AM PST by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: processing please hold

“Serbs protesters attack UN police.”

A little good news today.


91 posted on 02/22/2008 10:25:28 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: wideawake
Michael New is regarded by most US soldiers who are even aware of his existence as a crackpot shirker, not a hero.

Can I have a link to that?

So you didn't and don't support New because he refused to wear the insignia of the un? I'm not clear on this so maybe you can clear it up for me. Did Michael New join the un army or the US army?

92 posted on 02/22/2008 10:30:06 AM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
A little good news today.

Ain't it though. It brought a smile to my face. I could just visualize those blue helmets taking off like a bat out of hell.

93 posted on 02/22/2008 10:32:22 AM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: processing please hold

I remember Michael New very well

But, I don’t know the latest. Last I heard, they were about to maybe rule against this man.

I love his courage.


94 posted on 02/22/2008 10:34:10 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: wideawake
3,000 of those Blue Helmets are US soldiers.

Uggh! The ultimate humiliation for an American serviceman! I'd never do it.

95 posted on 02/22/2008 10:35:07 AM PST by AIM-54
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To: Mogger
"For some reason those high in US government or of high influence dislike the Serbs."

And they actually LIKE those commie Muslim terrorists.

Can you say; "Neo-Con"?

Can you say; "extremely highly-placed communist sympathizers, some of whom are in our own government"?

96 posted on 02/22/2008 10:36:20 AM PST by Designer
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To: wideawake
In legal filings, lawyers for Mr. New argued that under the Constitution and the law that governs America's involvement in the world body, the U.N. Participation Act of 1945, the president may not send American troops into possible combat under U.N. command without express authorization from Congress. The attorneys also said that under the Constitution, no American soldier was obliged to answer to a military officer who was not appointed by the president and confirmed by the Congress.

Mr. New's counsel further argued that forcing him to serve under an international army he never signed up with abridged the ex-soldier's rights against "involuntary servitude" under the 13th Amendment. Their final claim was that American soldiers could not accept the U.N. caps and shoulder patches under a constitutional provision that prohibits federal officials from taking "emoluments" from a foreign government.

Unquote

Did clinton get authorization from congress?

97 posted on 02/22/2008 10:36:59 AM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: Mogger
"What in the world has happened to our so called representative republic?"

Is that a rhetorical question, or do you want a straight answer?

98 posted on 02/22/2008 10:38:26 AM PST by Designer
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To: processing please hold

Thank you.

I take it it’s not over yet?

I hope he wins.


99 posted on 02/22/2008 10:41:22 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
I love his courage too.

Here's an article from '05. I love New's last sentence in the article.

http://www.mikenew.com/pr121305.html

And what does Michael New think of all this? "Right is right, and wrong is wrong. They can argue until the End of Time, but I will never serve the United Nations." New is pursuing a degree in Information Management Systems in Texas.

100 posted on 02/22/2008 10:42:16 AM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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