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Abbey Body Identified As Gay Lover Of Edward II
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 2-18-2008 | Laura Clout

Posted on 02/17/2008 6:44:21 PM PST by blam

Abbey body identified as gay lover of Edward II

By Laura Clout
Last Updated: 1:06am GMT 18/02/2008

A mutilated body found in an abbey graveyard has been identified as that of a notorious medieval villain rumoured to have been the gay lover of Edward II.

The remains, which bear the hallmarks of having been hanged, drawn and quartered, are thought to be those of Sir Hugh Despenser the Younger, who was executed as a traitor in 1326.

Sir Hugh was executed after Edward II [above] was deposed from the throne in 1326

Sir Hugh had been favourite of Edward II - who was widely believed to have been homosexual - but was brutally executed before a mob after the king was ousted from the throne.

The decapitated remains, buried at Hulton Abbey, Staffs, have intrigued experts since they were uncovered during the 1970s and now Mary Lewis, an anthropologist, says she has uncovered compelling evidence of their true identity.

The manner of execution, carbon-dating of the bones, and the absence of several parts of the body all point towards Sir Hugh being the victim, she said.

"If the remains are those of Sir Hugh Despenser the Younger, then this is the first time such an execution victim has been identified," she added.

Sir Hugh insinuated himself into the king's favour by backing him in his battles with the barons. Through a series of ruthless deals, he consolidated a huge fortune, winning himself a legion of enemies in the process, including Edward's wife, Queen Isabella.

His downfall came when the queen and her ally, Roger Mortimer, deposed the king in 1326.

Sir Hugh was judged a traitor and a thief. He was hanged and, still conscious, castrated, disembowelled and then quartered before his head was displayed on London Bridge.

Miss Lewis, a biological anthropologist at the University of Reading, found that the Staffordshire skeleton had been beheaded and chopped into several pieces with a sharp blade, suggesting a ritual killing.

There was also evidence of a stab wound to the stomach.

She said: "This form of public execution was high theatre that aimed to demonstrate the power of government to the masses. High treason dictated that the perpetrator should suffer more than one death."

Radiocarbon analysis dated the remains to between 1050 and 1385 and subsequent tests suggested that the male was over 34 years old. Sir Hugh was 40 when he was killed.

"Dating of the Hulton Abbey skeleton indicates that he died no later that 1385, when this brutal and very public form of execution was handed out only to the most notorious political prisoners. This suggests that the skeleton at Hulton Abbey was a well-known political figure," Miss Lewis added.

Sir Hugh's wife asked for his bones to be buried on his family's Gloucestershire estate but only the head, a thigh bone and a few vertebrae were returned to her. These are the bones that are missing from the Hulton Abbey skeleton.

In addition, the abbey formed part of the estate of Sir Hugh's brother-in-law, Hugh Audley, and it is thought the family may have chosen to bury what remained of their disgraced relative there.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abby; edwardii; gay; godsgravesglyphs; loveredwardii; royals; ruinseizethee; ruthlessking; villains
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To: SevenofNine
Then who the daddy of Edward 3

If Edward 2 didn’t sire Edward 3 then who the daddy

Mel Gibson! Sheesh! Don't you know anything about history?

Mark

101 posted on 02/18/2008 6:57:14 AM PST by MarkL
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To: mass55th

Actually I think he did, he was a French Adventurer, but if I recall he was actually killed out of the castle,by agents of ole’ Longshank.


102 posted on 02/18/2008 6:57:38 AM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: MarkL
Indeed sir, Indeed.Artemis Flame
103 posted on 02/18/2008 7:07:55 AM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: blam

It’s the Medieval Matthew Sheppard!!!


104 posted on 02/18/2008 7:38:56 AM PST by montag813
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To: RikaStrom

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105 posted on 02/18/2008 8:11:00 AM PST by RikaStrom (The number one rule of the Kama Sutra is that you both be on the same page.../Exeter 051705)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I was referring to the descendants of Sir Hugh asking for reparations, not the descendants of Edward II—although I guess one could charge the government for it if the Queen wanted to? :-)


106 posted on 02/18/2008 8:23:44 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: exit82

[Fwap!!] upside the head with a nerf baseball bat!! ;-)


107 posted on 02/18/2008 8:26:52 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: the scotsman
Oh my gosh, I totally forgot about the bones in the stomach! /s

Disemboweling could leave marks on the ribs behind the stomach, I suppose, but you don't have to cut into the stomach area that deeply to disembowel someone.

108 posted on 02/18/2008 8:54:38 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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109 posted on 02/18/2008 12:22:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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To: Verginius Rufus

“The present queen of Great Britain is a direct descendant of Edward II (assuming Edward III was actually his son).”

Exactly! The history of English monarchs is very interesting. I always enjoyed reading about the various intrigues involved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_of_Elizabeth_II_from_Cerdic


110 posted on 02/18/2008 12:38:50 PM PST by Mila
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To: blam

“He was hanged and...castrated...”

Beginning the old saying, “Balls,” said the Queeen. “If I had them, I’d be King.”


111 posted on 02/18/2008 12:43:23 PM PST by toddlintown (Ronald Reagan would vote for McCain, just like he sucked it up and supported Gerry Ford.)
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To: Yaelle

Maybe they put panties on his head, too.


112 posted on 02/18/2008 12:47:43 PM PST by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
This is Hugh!


113 posted on 02/18/2008 12:51:47 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: SamAdams76
Don’t want to ruin the book for you but you are on the right track.

Well.....I'm averaging about 40 pages a day.

So it will be a while before I get back to ya. :)

114 posted on 02/18/2008 2:27:27 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: SevenofNine
Is that same lover who got throw through window by Edward II father Edward I in Braveheart

The best way to approach Braveheart is to assume up front that nothing in the movie is true, and work backward from that. William Wallace existed, and, well, that's about it for the movie.

It wouldn't be so bad but for the fact that the moron who wrote the screenplay (NOT Mel Gibson) has tried to insist that "hey, some of it could have been true!"

Great movie, lousy history.

115 posted on 02/18/2008 3:12:42 PM PST by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: 2Jedismom

Olive Hugh.
:)


116 posted on 02/18/2008 4:20:15 PM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: eddie willers

It took me a while to get through that book as well. I started calling it “Book Without End.” Good read and after I was done, I started reading some non-fiction about that period of time (about the Plagues in particular).


117 posted on 02/18/2008 5:10:29 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 8 days away from outliving Junkyard Dog)
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To: redstateconfidential

Yes, young Edward II must have been 100% gay to be able to refrain from spending his entire life in bed with HER......


118 posted on 02/18/2008 8:48:37 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: we'll send Brezinski to Damascus, that's our foreign policy!!)
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To: SamAdams76
(about the Plagues in particular)

Spoiler Alert!


:)

119 posted on 02/18/2008 9:49:24 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: Verginius Rufus; Mila; blam
The present queen of Great Britain is a direct descendant of Edward II (assuming Edward III was actually his son).
GENEALOGY n. The tracing of descent from ancestors; alternatively, a particular account of such tracing for a specific individual or family. In the English-speaking world, all those who take up this pursuit announce sooner or later that they can trace their descent back to Edward III. This should surprise no one with a rudimentary knowledge of mathematics; there are probably one or two well-bred basset hounds who could also trace their descent back to Edward III. What is really surprising is that Edward III seems to be regarded as some kind of ultimate antecedent beyond whom the genealogist does not venture, even though anyone descended from Edward III is also descended from his father Edward II, and so on. The author can guess only that the prudery of the late Victorian age (when genealogy became a family pastime) chose to draw a veil before the memory of Edward II in view of the sybaritic Plantagenet’s bisexual reputation and appalling death (see impalement).

— Peter Bowler, The Superior Person’s Book of Words.


120 posted on 02/18/2008 9:54:55 PM PST by dighton
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