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A&E patients left in ambulances for up to FIVE hours 'so trusts can meet government targets'
Daily Mail ^ | Feb 17, 2008

Posted on 02/17/2008 4:48:09 PM PST by John Jorsett

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1 posted on 02/17/2008 4:48:11 PM PST by John Jorsett
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Here comes Hillary care, here comes Hillary care, right down socialist lane!!


2 posted on 02/17/2008 4:54:37 PM PST by GlennBeck08
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"These figures show there's a terrible-and colossal waste of ambulance resources."

Why are they worried about resources? I thought it was free.

3 posted on 02/17/2008 4:54:41 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Law of untended consequences ~ or, no good turn goes unstoned.

It's like the sentencing guidelines for powder cocaine and solid cocaine (crack) ~ they were different. The criminal lawyer's lobby demanded parity thinking they penalty for crack would be reduced. Somehow they forgot the option of increasing the penalty for powder.

Guess they'd been using too much themselves.

Enough of that, it's pretty obvious the guys running NHS in the UK are sociopaths!

4 posted on 02/17/2008 4:57:56 PM PST by muawiyah
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"...until they can treat them within four hours, in line with a Labour pledge.

Oh my. I've been in a couple of accidents, one bad...I would likely have bled to death in 4 hours...socialized medicine is such a *good* idea...

5 posted on 02/17/2008 4:59:29 PM PST by Felis_irritable (Dirty_Felis_Irritable...)
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6 posted on 02/17/2008 5:00:19 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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Are undertakers socialized in the UK as well? If not I smell a huge employment opportunity!


7 posted on 02/17/2008 5:18:47 PM PST by pnh102
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8 posted on 02/17/2008 5:22:52 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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...thousands of doctors opted out of treating patients outside working hours under lucrative new contracts...

Oh, this is so simple. Just put those capitalist pig doctors in chains and force them to treat the patients for free.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

9 posted on 02/17/2008 5:31:20 PM PST by TChad
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I’ll keep this in mind the next time I’m cursing United for pulling out of the gate at Denver, backing up twenty feet, then coming to a stop and sitting there while they dribble out ever more dubious “we’re almost ready to go” taunts for two hours.


10 posted on 02/17/2008 5:32:12 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Classic way for bureaucrats to solve a problem. Actually kind of funny, in a sick way.


11 posted on 02/17/2008 5:32:30 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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And there are people in this USA that WANT national health care.

They are either completely stupid, or can’t comprehend - maybe they can’t read either.


12 posted on 02/17/2008 5:42:46 PM PST by jtill (Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.)
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Years ago, I worked for a governmental welfare agency and the applications per policy had to be completed within 30 days.

If the 30 days arrived, any which weren’t done were just rejected and restamped on the computer as new applications for a new 30 day period.

Made the bosses look good, as there were never outdated applications on file.

England’s NHS is definitely following standard procedure.


13 posted on 02/17/2008 5:45:41 PM PST by I_Like_Spam
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What we would have too if we adopt sociohealth.


14 posted on 02/17/2008 5:48:33 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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Something to look forward to.


15 posted on 02/17/2008 6:01:49 PM PST by newzjunkey (Why McCain in Nov? Clintons hated and dismantled the military; Obama is even worse!)
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I’m an EMT. We’re very limited as to how much care we can give in an ambulance. Had an MV accident victim today who was confused, going cold, dropping BP - Brit EMTs are supposed to keep her stable with O2 for five hours? Or the not-so-sick, could-have-dealt-with-the-flu-themselves-at-home patient - Brit EMTs are going to be baby-sitting half a shift with one patient?

To the wall with these bureaucrats.


16 posted on 02/17/2008 6:06:03 PM PST by heartwood
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Oh yeah, cleaning, re-stocking and turn around time is minimal, Mr. Department of Health spokesman. Very often zero, en route.


17 posted on 02/17/2008 6:08:35 PM PST by heartwood
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I had a payment dispute with a doctor’s office, actually a large group closer in size to a small hospital.

As most of us know, collection agencies aren’t interested in taking on $73 debts that are 4 years old. The med group accounting office has an interesting way of getting around that, as I discovered. They enter charges and payments as a continuously running total. Thus, no matter how old the [so called] unpaid bill is, on paper it is never very old. And the collection agency is then willing to take it on.

They said I never paid for my last visit to this Dr. before I moved out of state. I said yeah, I did. Shows right here I made my co-payment and that the insurance co. paid their contracted amount. They said no, we applied your co-payment to a 3 year old bill, so you really didn’t pay your co-payment so we turned you over to collection.

Very strange story. Collection agency said pay $172 or we put a mark on your credit. I requested proof of debt directly from the Dr office & they sent me a statement claiming I owed $73. Weird. So, I saved all of this paper trail and sent a UPS letter to collection people informing them that if they marked my credit I would turn this over to the FTC and the FL state attorney general. They are either very incompetent or they are trying to shake me down.


18 posted on 02/17/2008 6:19:41 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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Socialized medicine Bump!


19 posted on 02/18/2008 7:04:09 AM PST by Perseverando
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If you like government housing your are going to love government medicine.


20 posted on 02/18/2008 7:16:18 AM PST by tongass kid
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