Posted on 02/15/2008 1:51:19 PM PST by DCBryan1
Sometimes I think my teenage neice is a better researcher, journalist, and patriot than even...gasp...fox news commentators.
I just heard Neil Cavuto "confirm" that new updates were coming in that the NIU gunman had "legally bought his weapons and accessories from the internet". In addition , Cavuto specifically mentioned high-capacity "clips" (NOTE: THEY ARE CALLED MAGAZINES) and a "glock holster" from the same online retail gun dealer that the nut at V Tech used.
However, with 5 minutes of searching on the internet, or even a phone call to a local gunstore (with an FFL) any "journalist" can find that:
1) All firearms "bought on the internet" are held by an retail gunstore or distributor (with an FFL).
2) All firearms are transfered, tax free, to the FFL in which the buyer is a legal resident after the transaction is completed.
3) The firearm is then transfered to the citizen at the FFL in his/her own state of residence after filling out an inspid form 4473 and a call to NICS.
4) After this, I believe, in Illinois, you have to have a certain "permit" to even take possession.
Anyways, I am digressing...What the truth is really does fly in the face of what the local, regional, cable, and alphabet networks want you to belive: that guns (and evil magazines) can be bought and delivered to madmen at the click of a mouse.
.../rant off...
They are discussing right now the fact that the gunman had been “off his medication” and “acting strangely” for the past two weeks. Why didn’t someone do something about it?
“To me the story is that the gunman was yet another apparent psychiatric patient that went off his meds.”
Fair enough ... except that’s not a much better story than “the madman bought his guns off the Internet!” Tell me, do you really want Our Friendly Government *mandating* that you must take your prescribed meds, with the option to lock you up if you don’t?
It’s all for your own good, you know....
What I hate worst is the utter meatheaded ignorance of people like Cavuto. It is a willful ignorance. Bet that the true explanation of the dealer about 'clips' and a holster not being restricted went in one ear and out the other and Cavuto could care less.
I think medicated citizens are the problem. Not responsible gun owners. The medication alters judgement. When the medicated chooses to get their personality back, the medication addiction shatters their personality and they lose control.
Next line on the federal firearms form will ask what prescribed medications the applicant is taking. Now it only asks if the applicant is or has used illegal drugs.
But now if we had government health care, a simple background check of medical records could provide that tidbit.
Another reason NOT to support government healthcare.
Of course not. It's just that the Media has an anti-gun fetish that they feed at every opportunity. It makes about as much sense to question the drug angle. That's all I'm sayin'.
One of the proposals thrown out there after the VT shootings was to add mental patients to the list of those barred from purchasing a fire arm. Of course every person that was sent to some mandatory counseling would be so classified by our friendly-neighborhood database keepers, err goverment.
I emailed cavuto on that subject two minutes after he said it.
I have yet to hear back from him..Not holding my breath.
Careful here. I'm a licensed gun owner and a medicated citizen. But my medications (issued through the VA) aren't mind altering or for psychological issues. They're for heart problems, blood pressure, cholesterol, stroke. But simply saying medicated citizens are the problem is painting with too broad a brush.
Being issued through the VA, my medications ARE part of a government database. Yet I have no problem obtaining my FOID renewals.
All my life, I have had "ups and downs" and a rather common medication helps to stabilize how I react to the world. While on this medication, things do not bother me.
Without the medication, I may get depressed and do something very stupid.
As a pilot, I am not allowed to take this medication!
So, thanks to the FAA, you will never know if this pilot may get depressed and do something very stupid.
Just like the "Gun Free Zones", the government has created a situation which is the exact opposite of what was intended.
There's nothing so permanent or resistent to change as a government database.
How do you deal with the dichotomy? I would infer that you don’t take the medication. If so, do you have a course of action should you have these “ups and downs” when scheduled for flight?
Obviously, this is a great example of the FAA doing the exact opposite of what they intended.
So what? Guns are available.
Let’s talk about lawyers and doctors and laws that prevent people who are mentally ill from being locked up. These things happened occasionally in the thirties forties and fifities, but we locked up many people who were mi intead of relying on chemical strait jacket that they do not want to take.
Permanent, yes. Not sure what you mean by 'resistant to change'. If you mean the VA isn't reactive to my needs you'd be mistaken. I have a better regard for my VA physician than I do with my family doctor.
Obviously.
I'll bet the shooter was using SSRIs
But I'm sure you were referring to concealed carry.
If you knew what I was referring to, why would you take issue with my statement?
Now, I'll take issue with yours, since you started the pickiness. My son is an Illinois resident and carries a concealed hand gun anytime he wants to and does so legally.
BTW, this 'link' between the NIU and VT murderers is the LEAD STORY on the Fox radio network's top-of-the-hour newscasts.
I'm sorry I came off as picky. I didn't mean to be. I was simply trying to clarify the situation. But I wonder how your son can concealed carry? To my knowledge it's not available to the average citizen.
From a webstore near you, to my printer, paid for via PayPal. Folding instructions included!
Or there is this free instructional video on how to make a gun at home:
Remember: A gun, is a gun, is a gun! Doesn't matter what size it is; if it is made of quality steel or cheap plastic, pencil lines on paper...or even a 'cocked' human hand.
To a Lib, this 
equals this 
The real question is...what was his DU screen name? Add it up...a Soc major - is there anyone in any Soc program that isn't a raving moonbat? - and a 'former student' (i.e., another drop-out lefty, never finishing what they start), who apparently went off his meds. What's the second most discussed topic on DU, after "I HATE BushChimpyHalliHitler" ad nauseaum? Long, rambling discussions about their meds. I would make tons of money betting, after hearing about a killing rampage, that the killer is A) a Muzzie, B) a lefty moonbat, or C) a Hoodie. Killers who aren't in those three categories are pretty rare - which might explain Greta's obsession with those cases, thinking that rarity = newsworthiness.
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