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The McCain Conundrum
12/14/2008 | KMAJ2

Posted on 02/15/2008 12:18:31 AM PST by KMAJ2

Other than the socialist Mike Huckabee and isolationist Ron Paul, John McCain was at the bottom of my list for a preferred candidate. On the other side of the equation, it is looking like Barack Hussein Obama may overrun the ice queen Hitlery Clinton. What makes that scary is Obama is to the left of the ice queen.

I have read posts from both sides of the McCain debate, the 'if you don't vote for McCain it is a vote for the democrat' gang and the 'I will not subjugate my conservative principles and vote for McCain' crowd. Personally, I support the rights (read freedom) of everyone to make such choices.

For me, my vote will be guided by my own priorities. What do I value most ? What is most important ? The scale weighed on one side love of country and on the other love of ideology. My country always comes first. So as distasteful as it will be to vote for McCain, to allow either Marxist, Hitlery or Obama, to win is to sell out my country.

Is your ideology more important then your country ? Do you only love your country if the elected leaders are those who mirror your ideological beliefs ? If one is willing to hand your country over to leaders who are clearly worse than the alternative, then one clearly loves their country, but they love their ideology more. But that is the unique trait of a free people, they have the freedom to place that order on their priorities.


TOPICS: Philosophy; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: democat; democrats; hillary; liberals; liberalvalues; mccain; mcmexico; obama; rino; yayanothervanity
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1 posted on 02/15/2008 12:18:32 AM PST by KMAJ2
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To: KMAJ2

Huh?


2 posted on 02/15/2008 12:20:49 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: KMAJ2

Ideology is country. Country is ideology. I personally don’t want an America that wants the 1st amendment shut down 60 days before an election; do you?


3 posted on 02/15/2008 12:22:26 AM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: farmer18th
. I personally don’t want an America that wants the 1st amendment shut down 60 days before an election

Exactly. That isn't the U.S.A.

4 posted on 02/15/2008 12:24:41 AM PST by nickcarraway (I didn't leave the Republican Party, it left me)
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To: farmer18th
I personally don’t want an America that wants the 1st amendment shut down 60 days before an election; do you?

Did you vote for Bush? He signed that provision into law. In that sense, GWB is more culpable for McCain/Feingold than either McCain or Feingold.

And GWB was McAmnesty's biggest cheerleader.

Frankly I don't see any difference between McCain and Bush. If Bush was running against Hillary or Obama, would you sit it out or crawl on your knees over a mile of broken glass to keep those commies out of the white house?

5 posted on 02/15/2008 12:27:36 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: farmer18th
Ideology is country. Country is ideology

"Der Führer ist Deutschland. Deutschland ist der Führer"

FRiend, you have got some issues.

6 posted on 02/15/2008 12:30:15 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Most men would rather die, than think. Many do.)
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To: P-Marlowe
The point is this: all of them are horribly compromised. I am seeing less and less difference between any of them. I hold Bush, Clinton, McCain, Feingold all responsible for what appears to be a blatant hatred of the founding principles of this country. They are all traitors.

The sooner people who care about the truth realise that, the better we can fight to retake our country.
7 posted on 02/15/2008 12:30:47 AM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: KMAJ2
I'm voting, I ain't staying home.

And I'm voting R, for anyone who has that beside their name, and I don't give a damn what their name is.

8 posted on 02/15/2008 12:30:51 AM PST by smoothsailing
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Huh? “Love of ideology”? You don’t make any sense. I don’t awaken every day “a slave” to my ideology. I love my country. I don’t, however, “love” the GOP or the Democrat Party, nor do I love the Libertarian or any other party.

Tell me this, KMAJ2, how can a vote for McNasty—which would compromise and go against EVERYTHING I believe in and have fought so hard for in my own way—how can voting for McAmnesty just to keep the Socialist Muslim out of power? To me, they are ALL “evil”. However, McLame has a track record—an awful, insidious track record and is a man who comes, shall we say, “unhinged” at times? Why would I put my vote behind such a man, a man who hates people like me, real conservatives who STAND for something? To vote for McDrain would be for me to vote for my mortal enemy.

The reason NOT to vote for McQueeg is because there is a good chance that conservatives/the GOP MAY be able to take back the House, thereby keeping amnesty from succeeding. With a McJerk as President, a GOP-controlled House will likely be like the Hastert House was—a rubber stamp for Bush most of the time. We can’t afford a “rubber stamp” for President McInsane!

Class dismissed!


9 posted on 02/15/2008 12:31:16 AM PST by levotb
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Contrary to your tag line, it is you who can’t think. America is about ideas, not men. We can’t pull the lever for someone who hates the Constitution and just feel a tad better that “our” traitor is a Republican.


10 posted on 02/15/2008 12:32:00 AM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: smoothsailing
And I'm voting R, for anyone who has that beside their name, and I don't give a damn what their name is.

What cult-like devotion.
11 posted on 02/15/2008 12:33:31 AM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: farmer18th

Well said, farmer18th!


12 posted on 02/15/2008 12:34:09 AM PST by levotb
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To: farmer18th
Give it up, you're way too cute.
13 posted on 02/15/2008 12:35:49 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: KMAJ2

DEAR JOHN
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WhGpIzH7N6Y
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14 posted on 02/15/2008 12:37:45 AM PST by Tigen
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To: smoothsailing
If the name next to the "R," reads "Lucifer," you'll take that one too?

I'm not posing riddles; I'm making judgements. Anyone who votes Republican, no matter how badly the candidate hates the Constitution, isn't really an American--or a Republican.
15 posted on 02/15/2008 12:37:47 AM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: P-Marlowe
Let me start out by saying that I think all three of them stink: McCain, Hillary, and Obama. And, I don’t trust any of them. The question really becomes: Which one of them will do the greatest long term damage to the country? I truly believe that a conservative GOP is the ONLY chance this country has to survive; the alternative is a long slow slide into socialism. One has to weigh the damage that McCain can singlehandedly do to the GOP, vs. what Hillary or Obama can do in four (eight) years to our Foreign Policy and to the Supreme Court. With Hillary or Obama, at least we can resist the immediate slide and try to rebuild the GOP. With McCain, I believe the slide will be long and slow, and would not be able to be stopped because there would be no one left to stop it.
16 posted on 02/15/2008 12:38:21 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (New tag line in progress.)
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Hitlery is bad enough but
Anyone thinking they want to vote for Obama
Check out and read the links below.
His connection with Marxist, muslims, anti Jewish, etc.
also his family background is part of the same.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1970690/posts

http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm

At least McCain understands the war on terror and wants to win unlike the Dems.


17 posted on 02/15/2008 12:45:01 AM PST by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: P-Marlowe

Always liked you.


18 posted on 02/15/2008 12:48:51 AM PST by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: KMAJ2

Whats Obama going to do to seal the border?

Whats Obama going to do to stop Putin?

With every fly over the Nimitz the KGB does McInsane looks better.


19 posted on 02/15/2008 12:50:08 AM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great, why is Osama doing so well?)
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To: farmer18th
Let me clear this up for you, I would vote for you if you had an R behind your name.

But hey, you've been here since 1999, never bothered to post a flag on your homepage. As far as I know, you could be Jane Fonda.

20 posted on 02/15/2008 12:50:35 AM PST by smoothsailing
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