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50 Reasons to Switch from Microsoft Windows to Apple’s Mac OS X
Chris Pirillo Dot Com ^ | Feb. 14, 2008 | Chris Pirillo

Posted on 02/14/2008 8:16:57 PM PST by jdm

I love my Xbox 360s, I think Popfly rocks (Silverlight will bring much needed competition to Flash). Plus, I can’t live without Exchange and its server-side rules. I love my Microsoft mouse more than any other mouse in the world. Surface looks totally awesome, too.

Microsoft does some amazing things - very amazing things. My choice, however, for a primary desktop operating system is no longer Windows - it’s Mac OS X. Duh. It’s rather difficult to admit that officially, if only because well, I think Microsoft does amazing things. They’ve also been quite supportive of my own efforts over the years, if only because they understand the value of one user. I’m still openly willing to give feedback to Microsoft’s product teams - Windows included. If you’re also looking to Switch, let me tell you that VMware Fusion signed on as a Video Show sponsor - and would be more than happy to help you with the transition. Realizing that many of you are hooked on Parallels, I’m guessing that VMware would do just about anything to win your attention. I also have great sponsors like Plasq.com (who make Skitch.com and ComicLife.com) and Shinywhitebox.com, who makes iShowU, Stomp, and Chatter. These are independent Mac OS X software developers with widely-accepted products. While I don’t need to justify my actions to anybody, I feel I have 50 strong reasons to finally make the move. This is after posting a list of my favorite Mac apps a few months ago, and inspiring Brian to create Appster (so that you could blog your favorite Mac apps with ease, too). Anybody in my chat room who watches the live video feed with any regularity knows that I’m a platform neutral geek. Keep that in mind as you read the following list:

  1. Seems that the future of Windows development is happening largely for corporate environments and customers. I don’t take issue with this other than being someone who doesn’t live or work inside a corporate environment at home.
  2. Excellent power management in OS X. When I close the lid to my MacBook Pro, it falls asleep. When I open the lid to my MacBook Pro, it wakes up. Imagine that! Seems to be the case 99% of the time, and it happens quickly.
  3. I’m ready to experience different frustrations. OS X isn’t perfect, certainly - but I already see its noticeably more stable than Windows Vista has been. Kernel Panics at least look prettier than BSODs. :) Seriously, I just find OS X’s update schedule to be more to my liking - instead of waiting for gigantic service packs, I get minor point releases along the way to major revisions to the OS. Bugs are going to happen, but knowing that showstopping / security bugs are likely to be squished quicker gives me amazing peace of mind.
  4. There’s more interesting, useful, beautiful, and affordable software being developed for OS X. If you still believe that there’s no software for “the Mac,” you’re simply a fool who hasn’t done his or her research.
  5. VMware Fusion makes it possible to have every operating system at my fingertips (as well as every app that runs on ‘em, FTW). Performance and stability is a reality, not a dream. More importantly, with USB 2.0 support in VMware Fusion, I have near complete compatibility with any external hardware. Parallels is also there, which should keep competition lively.
  6. I believe that the future of Windows (or any OS software layer) will be experienced in a virtual machine of some sort. People have been dual booting for years - now I can triple-task cross-platform in seconds flat.
  7. Not to say that Microsoft or Linux haven’t made great strides in recent years, but at least Leopard feels like only one team was developing the UI. It’s not quite perfect, but closer to what perfect should be. I’m not a huge fan of iTunes or every other Apple utility - but at least with Leopard, they’re trying to make them look and work the same way.
  8. I love the fact that most programs and their associated libraries are self-contained (apps). There’s no stress in installing / uninstalling most programs, and for true cleanup jobs there’s always AppZapper.
  9. I’m not a huge fan of the Dock for task management, but Quicksilver has virtually no Windows equivalent (in terms of elegance and scriptability, although it’s still completely overwhelming to me right now). The dock isn’t a shining example of where OS X is “better,” but I do appreciate the context menu options for each of the Dock’s icons for “Open at Login” management.
  10. Spotlight is to Windows Desktop Search as a BMW Z4 is to a Ford Pinto (in terms of performance, usability, and UI). No contest. I’m sure some would argue the opposite, but they’re also probably the extreme developer “but it works if you just learn how to use it right” types. Feh.
  11. The Apple community has been infiltrated by enough people who aren’t smug. You’re not better than me just because you run another OS or support another vendor, nor are you any less of a geek. Not every Windows user is a neanderthal, although some of their dated arguments would make them out to be. I think that most consumers are caught up in the idea that you NEED Windows for everything at home. You don’t.
  12. My iPhone is not going away anytime soon. Would I switch for better compatibility with a communications device? Not necessarily, but if the future of OS X is in the present of the iPhone they’re going to gain consumer market share at blinding speed. Remember, I wanted to hate this device - after years of being a dyed-in-the-wool Windows Mobile advocate.
  13. The spyware / malware / virus threat is diminished by an extreme degree. Not to say that one should avoid running protective layers of software or hardware, but I’m just not as nervous when I try a new app on OS X.
  14. Many of my friends are considering making the switch as well. This dovetails nicely with my first point. I can tell you that just by showing off the fun features of CamTwist and Colloquy with my live stream, a few of those community members have already purchased MacBooks - or are strongly considering doing so in the not-too-distant future. Interestingly enough, those are two FREE apps that work amazingly better than most overpriced Windows shareware titles.
  15. Microsoft Windows completely abandoned its power users, period. Where are the Windows Vista “Ultimate” add-ons? Where are the new Power Toys? Why doesn’t Windows Media Player have podcast support yet (despite me telling them to integrate RSS back when WMP9 was in beta, years before podcasting was a buzzword)? I’m not saying that Windows is dead - not by any stretch of the imagination.
  16. Boot Camp, if all else fails.
  17. A single SKU of Leopard is both 32-bit and 64-bit compatible. This, alone, is a fantastic reason to embrace the platform. It’s seamless. Why should a consumer have to come to a decision on which code to run - or understand the differences between them in the first place? Remember, I’m to be considered a “home” user.
  18. Time Machine. Wow. Can it really be this simple? “Simply select your AirPort Disk as the backup disk for each computer and the whole family can enjoy the benefits of Time Machine.” Do you understand what that means? And no, Windows Volume Shadow Copy is not the SAME thing.
  19. Leopard’s Finder will allegedly search networked computers seamlessly, as well as allow you to access those results remotely (through a paid .Mac account, which would totally be worth purchasing at that point).
  20. Java app performance is decent on OS X, and the same code looks infinitely better when it’s not running on Windows. In fact, most third-party apps are very well designed so as to integrate seamlessly with the entire OS. That’s beyond refreshing.
  21. You never need to defrag a Mac’s hard disk.
  22. Adium is there - an Instant Messaging client that allows you to use AIM, Yahoo, Google Talk, and other accounts through a single client. It’d be my replacement for Miranda IM. Skype also works on the Mac. I expect to see even more universal IM apps reveal themselves over the coming months.
  23. Bonjour is proving to be quite useful on my home network. Computers with Bonjour-enabled services are automatically discovered with virtually no fuss - even my networked Windows machines have been playing along.
  24. Joining wireless networks in OS X is easier and more refined, easily accessible. The tools for networking don’t seem overly complex, either.
  25. Setting up services such as Windows File Sharing, FTP, and even Web sharing can be done on OS X with just a few clicks. If you’re telling me that I could set up FTP just as easily in Windows, then it obviously can’t be done as easily.
  26. Almost all of the audio and video formats out there can be played on the Mac with Video LAN Player (VLC). One less barrier to entry.
  27. Great Web browsers that work in Windows also work on the Mac (Firefox, Opera, SeaMonkey, Flock). The only exception here is Internet Explorer, or any third-party overlay to IE (such as Maxthon, which has been taking a slight turn for the worse with 2.0). Of course, there’s always the “invisible” virtual machine possibility (read: VMware Fusion’s Unity mode). Moreover, Safari / WebKit is gaining speed on all platforms.
  28. Erasing deleted files placed in your trash (also known as a Recycle Bin in Windows) can be securely erased in OS X. No need to mess with third-party software.
  29. You can still right-click in OS X - and the way Apple decided to implement it is far more convenient than you’d think. In fact, I find double-tapping the mouse pad far more intuitive than using a second mouse button. Didn’t take long to get used to it at all.
  30. Wanna set up a VNC server on your Mac? No problem, its already apart of the operating system! Moreover, the feature isn’t buried three levels deep. It’s sitting right there in the Finder. Moreover, unlike Windows Remote Desktop, a Screen Sharing session doesn’t lock the remote user out of his / her session - one reason I’ve always loathed RDC.
  31. Microsoft doesn’t have an iLife. Not even close. It has a set of multimedia applications, but they don’t seem to be cohesive in the slightest. Maybe things will get better as Live continues to evolve?
  32. You really don’t get to play the blame game with Apple. They make the hardware AND the operating system, so they really know what’s going on, and they really know if the problem is widespread.
  33. A Mac costs about the same as a comparable Windows PC - for hardware and (for argument’s sake for those who don’t believe me) bundled software. And for those who still claim that Macs are still more expensive, they obviously have never seen or priced a gaming rig. Price / cost is relative. If you want a cheap machine, that’s your prerogative. The resell value on Macs has always been higher than that of an equivalent “Windows” machine.
  34. You can record audio and video conversations from iChat 4.0 (natively). That’s pretty amazing, as it takes the idea of “video chat” and puts it into a time-shifted space. This isn’t just useful for those of us who conduct guest interviews regularly, but for home users who want to save calls for posterity.
  35. Dashcode appears to take the geekery out of widget-building. Moreover, the new “Web Clippings” widget appears to work better than anything I’ve seen come from Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, et al. This is putting the user first
  36. With a .Mac subscription, you can save common local settings as global ones. You only have to configure your Dock or System Preferences on one machine to have those same changes appear on all machines connected to your .Mac account. Unbelievable.
  37. Unlike Windows font management, you can activate fonts as you need them within Leopard. This translates to less wasted overhead by fonts that remain largely unused in memory. I can only imagine this results in far less resource-intensive sessions. Genius.
  38. Automator now supports UI Recording and Playback, which means you can create “macros” without understanding a lick of logic. The last time I saw a native macro recorder in Windows was v3.0? You don’t have to be a geek to gain access to geeky-cool features.
  39. Can’t tell you how much I love Spring Loaded folders. Love ‘em.
  40. Wikipedia information, while not always accurate, certainly stands to be updated a lot more frequently than documentation that ships with (or from) the operating system designer. That Apple has taken the step to integrate access directly from within the Dictionary tool ? It’s just kinda nice to have there. They’re placing trust in the idea of community rather than trying to hide it from us.
  41. Mail comes with “Data Detectors” which will highlight phone numbers, addresses, etc. You can then choose to do something with that information, like map it or store it as an appointment, contact, etc. This is a feature I had not seen outside of a pricey plugin for Microsoft Outlook. I may not use Mail.app, but at least they’re continuing to improve its functionality - ugly capsule toolbar icons notwithstanding.
  42. The Preview tool ain’t no joke - with annotations, basic image editing, Core Animation zooming and scrolling, GPS Metadata support, batch operations, etc. It’s all at your fingertips.
  43. Expose works. ‘Nuff said. The only thing that surpasses OS X’s open window management is Compiz Fusion. None of this Flip3D nonsense.
  44. Help. No, seriously - Help is the way Help should have always been all along. I related my “Help” experience a few weeks ago, with the system not just finding what I was looking for help on, but taking me directly to the spot where I needed to be. I’m pretty sure the Help system isn’t 100% accurate, but it hasn’t disappointed me yet.
  45. Guest accounts are purged after every session in Leopard. Wow. Guest privileges, on the other hand, seem to be lacking somewhat on the security front (but most of my Guests are computer clueless).
  46. I love the Universal Access zoom feature - and have used it so many times for countless reasons. Really comes in handy when you’re trying to show something to someone from across the room. Never found anything close to its simplicity anywhere else.
  47. Call me crazy, but I love the fact that in OS X, the keyboard shortcut for opening Preferences is always the same (Command + Comma). Convenient. Dependable. Quick.
  48. Device compatibility doesn’t seem to be as much of an issue as it used to be with the Mac. While I couldn’t get my brand new HP LaserJet to work inside of Vista, it works flawlessly inside of OS X 10.4 (despite having to use HP’s scanning software). Still, with any USB hardware hiccups in Leopard, compatibility issues are erased with VMware Fusion until newer software is unleashed.
  49. Thanks to another one of our sponsors, GoToMeeting, I’ve had the opportunity to see quite a few of my friends’ desktops. Quite a few have gone to great lengths to make their installation of Windows look and feel like Mac OS X. At that point, what’s the point of sticking with Windows? Just about the only thing Mac users might want from Windows is the Explorer (FTFF) - and even then, there’s ‘Path Finder.’
  50. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Windows users need Apple’s software more than Mac users need Microsoft’s. That’s just a cold, hard fact. And given my severe disappointment with just about everything in Mac Office 2008, I’m even further driven away from Microsoft’s desktop software.

Please don’t take this post as an all-out lovefest for Apple (and it’s definitely not a hatefest for Microsoft, either). The two can co-exist peacefully if you let them, and if your routine supports it. I wasn’t ready to switch before now for a lot of reasons. This has been a long time coming. I think it’s lousy that Apple charges for QuickTime Pro and Remote Desktop, I believe iTunes and iPhoto are inelegant management tools (Picasa for OS X would rule). At least Aperture 2.0 looks promising for me. And, for whatever it’s worth, I’ve yet to hear from anybody at Apple in respect to marketing, sponsorship, endorsement, support - or otherwise. I’d imagine they’d be interested in knowing my background, and why this leap is relatively monumental for me - and a sign of things to come for the greater part of our community. So, let’s say that the next version of Windows is amazing - for argument’s sake. Would I switch back to the “PC” for my primary computing needs? Doubtful, because I’m guessing that virtual machine support will continue to improve in leaps and bounds (with greater hardware support to boot). Microsoft Windows isn’t in trouble, necessarily - but I do believe that it’s better (read: somewhat safer, more affordable) to run Windows in a virtual machine with USB 2.0 hardware support than it is to run it directly on the desktop. If you’re a gamer, all bets are off - you’re a different kind of user. Gamers are likely the reason Windows is still alive and well at home today. If the gaming industry shifted gears and started to develop OpenGL-based entertainment titles for Linux, you’d see Ubuntu adoption skyrocket. I’m a console player - still in love with my 360, as noted before. I’m a casual gamer, and I can casual game anywhere. I’ll still have traditional PC hardware around the house - especially since Ponzi may or may not be making this switch with me. We’re still living inside of Outlook, with no other usable PIM in reach (on any platform). I’ve been showing her a few cool things that you can only do with “the Mac,” and she’s certainly seen me try Outlook 2007 in VMware Fusion. I’m also looking forward to tinkering with new systems as they’re released from a variety of OEMs. I couldn’t abandon my beloved HP All-in-One LaserJet!

Point is: I’m not going ‘all’ Apple. In time, this will all become easier to manage - but there’s no time like the present to shelve the last ten years of Windows enthusiasm and switch. I’m fine with being a Microsoft enthusiast in other areas, mind you - very much so. They’re doing too many good things for me to ignore, and their community involvement puts Apple to shame. My choice for an operating system is just that - my choice for an OS. And before anybody jumps in and claims that you can achieve the same level of “happiness” after installing 50+ third-party add-ons, plugins, extensions, and utilities to Windows you simply don’t get it, and you probably never will. I can’t be alone, and I’m predicting that by the end of next year, even more people will choose (and use) Mac OS X over Windows Vista. I can’t open up the phone lines anymore without being inundated with calls that suggest such a tipping point. Everybody is curious

…and curiosity is what keeps me going.

As a power user, Mac OS X has far more to offer me in terms of tweak-ability and modularity. I learned that by trying it, not by guessing that it wasn’t possible.

I heart MacOSXHints.com. I heart TUAW.com. I heart DaringFireball.net. I heart TidBits.com. I heart so many Mac software developers (like Steve Green and Wil Shipley and Randy Green and Brian Skrab and others). I heart watching for news of some new application, though I’m not quite on any review lists yet - it seems like a simpler nut to crack than it was in the world of Windows shareware.

It’s fun again.

To end this with a bit of humor, my live stream chatters (largely Windows and PC enthusiasts) gave me other title suggestions for this post:

And now, I’d like to challenge any Windows enthusiast to publish 50 Reasons to switch from Mac OS X to Microsoft Windows. ;)


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81 posted on 02/14/2008 11:26:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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To: MediaMole
Don’t get me wrong. Macs are nice machines. I enjoy using OSX, but I don’t enjoy the idea of tying myself to one company. I have built my own machines for more than a decade and don’t want to give away that freedom for a nice OS.

You are obviously capable of building a Leopard OS capable machine
Only reason you cannot easily run it as an Apple computer is because Apple has designed the OS to run only on computers bought from Apple

IOW the latest and greatest Apple OS can be run on Wintel equipment same as Linux is, same as XP and Vista are --- Except that Apple wants the revenue from forcing its cultists to buy Apple hardware. So Apple hobbles the OS X to make it very dicey to run on hardware you don't buy from Apple

82 posted on 02/14/2008 11:31:27 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam!)
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To: ThomasThomas
Who many processors will it support?

How does 3,132 processors strike you? However, the stock MacPro comes with eight.

83 posted on 02/14/2008 11:34:24 PM PST by Swordmaker (We can fix this, but you're gonna need a butter knife, a roll of duct tape, and a car battery.)
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To: dennisw

Waah! Waah! I can’t get this Rolls-Royce fuel injection system to work on my Chebby V8! I can’t get the Mercedes KOMAND system to work on my Ford! How dare makers put limits on where you should be able to use something! Waah! Waah!


84 posted on 02/14/2008 11:35:00 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dennisw

Its a closed system model versus an open one.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages.

A lot of non-cultists will pay more for a computer that just works efficiently and requires less maintenance.


85 posted on 02/14/2008 11:37:33 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: dennisw
IOW the latest Apple OS is purposely designed to only run on Apple computers

Yes. That's no secret, and it's on purpose. Jobs has talked repeatedly about how Apple's core strength is that it controls "the whole widget." The software is designed to run on the hardware, and the hardware is designed to run the software, both at the same time.

Windows runs on anybody's hardware, which has made it the dominant player in the computing world; but it has also burdened Microsoft with supporting a virtually endless array of hardware and buggy drivers. Call support for a Windows problem, and the hardware vendor and Microsoft will point fingers at each other. Apple has one point of contact.

When in reality it could run on many Dell, HP, home made etc etc computers except that Apple cripples the OS so it cannot

But then Apple would have to take on support duties for things it cannot control. The whole point of the Mac, from jump, has been to get rid of that kind of tangle.

86 posted on 02/14/2008 11:38:55 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: MediaMole
Until there is really good software for the Mac, that is still a liability. Front Row is a good start, but it doesn’t have the recording functionality.

Apple sells a device that offers what I consider the nicest synergy of media and your compute platform - AppleTV. I just purchased one and it came with the new "Take 2" software. All I can say is - Incredible! I can rent movies on this device that I can then move to an ipod or a computer (and vice versa) to watch. I have 150Gb of 720p HD movies on my AppleTV and it is awesome. My kids favorite DVDs are digitized and I'll never have to buy another copy of "Cars" as long as I live!

87 posted on 02/14/2008 11:45:18 PM PST by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: Spktyr
Remember, Apple tried the “run the OS on whatever hardware you want” experiment already. It ended up as a support nightmare and almost killed Apple.

That was years ago and it's much easier now
If Apple wanted to it could issue 10 recommended configurations tomorrow for laptops and desktops that would run OS Leopard just great. All it would take is removing code from Leopard that prevents it from being run on off the shelf equipment

Apple could easily recommend that this configuration will run non-hobbled Leopard.
BTW This is a wish list computer from a New Egg customer  
I dare you to tell me this could not run Leopard except that Apple purposely designs Leopard to force you to buy Apple hardware----->>>>>

 

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88 posted on 02/14/2008 11:48:24 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam!)
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To: MediaMole
1. No integrated DVR applications. Both Windows Media Center and Linux MythTV turn your computer into a networked TV server. Apple TV is a platform for iTunes sales.

I've been running El Gato's eyeTV as a Mac-based DVR for years now. You also have options from Miglia as well as Equinux.

I also think Myth has been ported to Mac OS X, but don't hold me to that...

89 posted on 02/14/2008 11:49:14 PM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: ReignOfError
Yes. That's no secret, and it's on purpose. Jobs has talked repeatedly about how Apple's core strength is that it controls "the whole widget." The software is designed to run on the hardware, and the hardware is designed to run the software, both at the same time.

Ahh, well, you should probably do a bit of fact checking before making such sweeping statements. This is posted from my Dell 8400 running Leopard 10.5.2 (that's right - the absolute latest & great form Apple). It runs like a dream, NEVER crashes, and is as fast as lightning. Minor hacking in software to get it running, but it is AWESOME (and sitting proudly next to my Mac Pro)...

90 posted on 02/14/2008 11:50:01 PM PST by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: dennisw

Could it run Leopard? Sure. Technically, the specs are there.

Does Apple want to get into the blame game with either a) having to write drivers for a product they don’t ship or b) trusting to the 3rd party to write good drivers (hahahahahah)? No.

Do I care so long as when I come home from troubleshooting other people’s Windows machines (often with crappy driver problems) I don’t have to deal with... more driver problems? No - which is why this MCSE uses Macs at home.


91 posted on 02/14/2008 11:52:22 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dennisw

I believe it’s a pure business decision.

Apple makes as much profit as HP or Dell on a whole lot less market share. HP & Dell sell a whole lot of very low or no profit items in order to sell much fewer high end upgrade boxes to make the same amount of money as Apple.

Less manufacturing, less inventory, less distribution, less support to make the same amount of money.


92 posted on 02/14/2008 11:53:17 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: MediaMole
1. No integrated DVR applications. Both Windows Media Center and Linux MythTV turn your computer into a networked TV server. Apple TV is a platform for iTunes sales.

I use Elegato's EyeTV... works great for either Standard or HDTV. 4. Games. Windows and DirectX is still the platform of choice for PC gaming.

Fine, run your games in Boot Camp.

5. Upgradeability. Machines like iMacs are designed to be disposable. Most of the parts are proprietary.

Uh, no. Most of the parts are from the usual suspects... and you can change out processors if you want. Most don't.

93 posted on 02/14/2008 11:54:37 PM PST by Swordmaker (We can fix this, but you're gonna need a butter knife, a roll of duct tape, and a car battery.)
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To: Spktyr
Could it run Leopard? Sure. Technically, the specs are there.

If you do a google search, you will find that this hardware will most likely run Leopard with little or no modification. It will be fast - very fast, and very stable... I run Leopard on an old Dell 8400 that's awesome, and I've spec'd a very similar system (on NewEgg as well) to construct a new Hackintosh. I use a Mac Pro Quad Xeon as my main box, but love to tinker...

94 posted on 02/14/2008 11:57:27 PM PST by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: ReignOfError
When in reality it could run on many Dell, HP, home made etc etc computers except that Apple cripples the OS so it cannot

But then Apple would have to take on support duties for things it cannot control. The whole point of the Mac, from jump, has been to get rid of that kind of tangle.

That's a red herring.
As stated in another post---
Apple could issue tomorrow 10 slam dunk configurations it has tested verified and would support if you bought a special Leopard DVD. And Apple could support with minimal expense. But then it would lose a big chunk of revenue it gets from selling highly marked up Apple hardware to you .... ahem... suckers

Microsoft is in the OS business
Apple is in the OS business ....
Except that Apple has stumbled upon a scheme to force you to buy its hardware too

Apple could come out with this special edition Leopard that would cost me say $50 dollars more than if I owned an Apple computer
And Apple would support a list of 10 do it yourself laptop and desktop configurations
Computer manufacturers could make laptops and desktops that followed these configurations

95 posted on 02/15/2008 12:02:53 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam!)
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To: Terpfen
Question is, do I want to get a MacBook Pro instead? The bottom-tier MBP is exactly what I want in a laptop, but it’s a little too big to be portable.

The Macbook Pro is a professional machine... the MacBook is consumer. They will both run the same software. If your needs lean toward Pro work, get the MBP. I have a MBP. My daughter has an older iBook in the MacBook format. It also runs the same software (but it's not Intel). I prefer my MBP. Check the refurbs at the Apple store online... you can often pickup a MBP for $300 less than a non-refurb and both come with the same factory warranty.

96 posted on 02/15/2008 12:03:51 AM PST by Swordmaker (We can fix this, but you're gonna need a butter knife, a roll of duct tape, and a car battery.)
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To: Spktyr
Remember, Apple tried the “run the OS on whatever hardware you want” experiment already. It ended up as a support nightmare and almost killed Apple.

That's not accurate. Apple licensed manufacturers of "clones," but only under license and subject to strict hardware guidelines. What Apple hoped was that licensing clone vendors would allow other vendors to create new niches for the Mac -- sub-notebooks, rack-mounts, and so on. Didn't happen.

What did, in fact, happen was that the cloners poached the Mac user base rather than expand it. So they pulled the plug. That was one of many missteps in the interim between post-Steve and re-Steve. They had a bewildering array of boring beige boxes and an OS that was, while I still preferred it to Windows, moribund.

When Steve came back, his first big unveiling was the iMac. One box. Stylish and simple. Jobs said back in 1984 that the Macintosh ideal was that a computer should simply be another household device, like a toaster. The iMac fit that vision.

Every Apple product since the Grand Return of Steve has followed that basic ethic: Machines you work with, not work on.

97 posted on 02/15/2008 12:04:00 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: GunnyB

Hey... that’s pretty good
But most people can’t do that Hackentosh hacking

Your Dell 8400 is obviously an “Apple quality” computer and would run Leopard just fine without any hacks. Except that Apple has purposely crippled its OS so it runs only on a computer you buy from Apple


98 posted on 02/15/2008 12:07:53 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam!)
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To: dcam

Hmmm. Well, I haven’t touched a PC with Windoze since 1990, so, it sounds nice but not for me. Hack one for OSX and you got a winner! (I especially like the GPS, extra memory and optical drive.)


99 posted on 02/15/2008 12:12:24 AM PST by IreneE (Live for nothing or die for something.)
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To: dennisw

It’s called a profitable business model.

You could tinker with it, cut some revenue from hardware, increase some support costs, charge more for the OS and the bundled apps, compete on the low end, etc... build a different business model.

I don’t think you can simplify it to crippling to force suckers to.. yada yada.

I have a choice and I feel I get more value for the Macs I buy than the WinTel boxes.

Your mileage may vary.


100 posted on 02/15/2008 12:13:24 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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