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Limbaugh and Hannity can no longer be trusted.
ChristianPatriot.com ^ | Feb 13, 08 | Rev Bob Celeste

Posted on 02/14/2008 4:44:19 AM PST by SLB

John 15:18-25 Wednesday, February 13th, in the year of our Lord 2008 First let me say that I am not happy that I have been put in a position where I have to interrupt the series on the Gospel of John. But, what Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other talking head pundits have done this year is not only beneath contempt and disgust but requires a Scriptural response as well. They have, in my humble opinion, proven who it is that they serve, and it is not the God of truth, but the father of all liars.

There was a time when one could turn the dial to Rush Limbaugh and/or Sean Hannity and expect to hear the truth. There was a time when listening to either got you an honest evaluation of individuals and especially candidates. That has changed, as both have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that they can and will lie to prevent a true servant of Christ from occupying the oval office.

While I am disappointed in both of these legends in their own minds, I am especially upset at and disappointed in Rush Limbaugh. I would not have believed that he would sink to the level of vicious lies coming out of his mouth, making Romney (one of the most liberal governors in the history of the most liberal state of Massachusetts) a conservative, while at the same time doing everything in his power to paint Conservative Christian Pastor Mike Huckabee as a liberal. From Sean Hannity and others, I am disappointed, but not all that surprised. But in Rush, it goes past just disappointment. It goes to having to re-evaluate my thinking about his honesty over the years. With Rush it is more than simple disappointment, it borders on disgust. I always expected more of him, and I have been proven, by him, to be wrong in my high estimation of him and his honesty.

If I were talking to Pastor Mike Huckabee this morning, I would remind him of what Jesus warned us about in John 15:

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you.

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, ‘The servant is not greater than his Lord.’ Since they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they had kept My saying, they would keep yours also.

But all these things will they do unto you for My name's sake, because they know not Him that sent Me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no covering for their sin. He that hates Me hates My Father also.

If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both Me and My Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE. (John 15:18-25 ACP/KJV)

Those who serve satan hate Pastor Huckabee because they hate Christ. Had they never read or even claimed to read the word of God, they would be blameless, but since they claim to be pro-life Christian conservatives who have read the word of God, their sin lies at their door and within their hearts.

But, I would continue and remind Pastor Huckabee of this passage as well:

And He (God) said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son.

And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him. Now Abraham (age 99) and Sarah (age 89) were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women. Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, “After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?”

And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?’

Is any thing too hard for the LORD?

At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son! (Genesis 18:10-14 ACP/KJV)

Then I would ask Pastor Mike; “Reverend Mike, which do you think it would be harder for God to do, make you President or cause an 89 year old woman to not only give birth to a perfectly happy, healthy baby boy, but breast feed him and cause her to live till he was 37 years old?”

To all of you who are getting a bit disappointed and down at the mouth, let me remind you of how God likes to fight political wars.

Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod: so that the host of the Midianites were on the north side of them, by the hill of Moreh, in the valley. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for Me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against Me, saying, “Mine own hand hath saved me.” Now therefore go to, proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, “Whosoever is fearful and afraid, let him return and depart early from mount Gilead.”

And there returned of the people twenty and two thousand; and there remained ten thousand. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go.

So he(Gideon) brought down the people unto the water: and the LORD said unto Gideon, Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink. And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men: but all the rest of the people bowed down upon their knees to drink water. And the LORD said unto Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other people go every man unto his place.

And he(Gideon) divided the three hundred men into three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man's hand, with pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers. And he said unto them, “Look on me, and do likewise: and, behold, when I come to the outside of the camp, it shall be that, as I do, so shall ye do. When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands. And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, “The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”

And they stood every man in his place round about the camp: and all the host ran, and cried, and fled. And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the LORD set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath. (Judges 7:1-7 and 16-22 ACP/KJV)

Mike, If I’m right, you still have too many working for you and not enough against you for God to deliver the presidency into your hands. You still have to many Bob Celestes and not enough Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys. For I do still believe that God is going to cause this election in November to be between you, a servant of the most High God and whichever of the two servants of satan that the democrats choose to run against you. I believe that this fight between you and McCain is nothing more than a warm up for the big fight of good against pure evil in November.

The Lord be with you my brother and may He give courage and strength to the men around you, let they, you, and I obey the command of the Lord in Job 40:7a. “Gird up thy loins now like a man”

And now, God willing I can get back to the Gospel of John.

And Lord, please let it be with those who attack our brother Mike as they try to make it be to our brother Mike. In the name of the Lord Christ Jesus I pray. Amen.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; apostasy; dominionism; election; hannity; huckabee; rush; socialgospel; talkradio
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To: SLB

Huck was just as state-socialist as Romney, just on different issues. He pardoned dangerous felons, and he coddled illegal aliens because of Tyson. I will not call them liberal, it is a perversion of the term.
Romney was gay-friendly and an abortion enabler. Republicans haven’t been depressed this election cycle because of the death of conservatism, but because of the dearth of the right people in the right position to carry the ideas forward.


181 posted on 02/14/2008 6:17:44 AM PST by steve8714 (Loyalty has an expiration date and is not transferable.)
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To: SLB

Oh please. These two have at least stuck to their principles. Many others have chosen “win at all costs” over principle. Now who would I respect the most?

I say this as one who doesn’t do talk radio, or even much talk teevee. I do respect these two for sticking to their guns. McCain is a stinker of a candidate for conservatives, and I join Rush and Sean in refusing to admire the emperor’s new clothes.

**Buy stocks in cosmetics—this pig is going to need a LOT of lipstick.


182 posted on 02/14/2008 6:19:14 AM PST by MizSterious (If it's Hillary v. McCain, I refuse to vote for EITHER liberal !)
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To: SLB; OB1kNOb

Rush and especially Hannity have some problems (Hannity kneepadding for lib Giuliani comes to mind). But couching a criticism of Rush in biblical terms while trying to elevate Huckabee as some paragon of truth and righteousness is nauseating.

Huck has been caught in more than a few whoppers already.


183 posted on 02/14/2008 6:20:04 AM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: aruanan

Rick Warren is also a Christian.


184 posted on 02/14/2008 6:20:33 AM PST by steve8714 (Loyalty has an expiration date and is not transferable.)
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To: thecabal
Hyperbole like this makes evangelicals look like a bunch of nutjobs in a lot of people’s eyes...

gee, ya think?

How about the FR threads declaring Laura Bush a "Satanist" because she encouraged reading the Harry Potter books as part of her literacy promotional work?

Or consider any of the dozens of FR threads regarding homelessness, HIV or predatory lending which essentially declare that JESUS is punishing wicked welfare scammers for their sins with His own Sword of Righteousness(tm)...

Since the conservative movement is D-E-D dead with absolutely no ideas, no heart and no enthusiasm, here at FreeRepublic we usualy just substitue pious self-righteousness, indignation, high dudgeon and JESUSJESUSJESUS for all of the above...

185 posted on 02/14/2008 6:20:35 AM PST by martin gibson ("I care not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death")
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To: SLB

Are you so silly you actually think their ratings will fall with a liberal in the White House. It hasn’t happened since Clinton entered the place. Their ratings have remained high with “W” the liberal in Republican drag has stabbed the conservatives of America.
These conservatives voices in American aren’t going to be silenced even with power seeking jerks spewing non-sense from the pulpit.
Nixon told us that the two easiest groups of people to influence were, in the number two slot, ministers, the number one spot went to ministers seeking power.


186 posted on 02/14/2008 6:21:22 AM PST by em2vn
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To: rayincolorado

Thank you sir, some people think we are electing a pastor, not a president.


187 posted on 02/14/2008 6:23:36 AM PST by Robbin
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To: humblegunner

Sean is on FM here.


188 posted on 02/14/2008 6:23:50 AM PST by steve8714 (Loyalty has an expiration date and is not transferable.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

‘The only difference is the concealed .45 ACP...”

I thought Clinton used a .38 to help Foster commit suicide and not a .45.


189 posted on 02/14/2008 6:23:59 AM PST by driftdiver
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To: SLB

This guy is about as wrong as he can be.

Instead of quoting scripture, maybe he could try to take apart and/or explain why Rush’s criticism of Huck is wrong.

He can’t do that.

Besides, Rush has not attacked Huckabee’s faith claims. Rush, like me, respects that aspect of Huckabee’s life.

But politically speaking, Huck engages in class warfare and attacks the capitalists who make our economy work. (If you want a biblical illustration, try Matthew 20:1-16—the griping laborers. ha ha) Huckabees’ attacks on the rich are ridiculous.


190 posted on 02/14/2008 6:24:29 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Dixie Yooper

“This lack of interest in this election they are fueling is going to have huge results, not only for the presidency, but for all offices from National right down to state, county and city races.”

And the blame for that is with national and state parties who frontloaded the primaries in blue states, allowed most of them in red states to be open, and made a lot of them winner take all. That was a recipe for McCain to win, and the party will suffer for its stupidity. After the coming debacle (and it’s coming whether we Freepers vote for McCain or not) maybe party insiders will buy a flippin’ clue and change the primary system.

If it was Hillary vs. a conservative, the conservative talking heads would be skewering her right now. But it’s not, it’s one Soros-funded liberal with a “D” vs. another Soros-funded liberal with an “R.” On several very important issues, including the grandaddy of them all, repect for the Constitution, McCain is as liberal as it gets, and those of us who have deeply held conservative beliefs are not going to pee them all away for the likes of John McCain.


191 posted on 02/14/2008 6:24:40 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (“I will offer a choice, not an echo.” Barry Goldwater)
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To: ExGeeEye

you missed the lie in the first statement - the word “conservative” applied to Huckabee.


192 posted on 02/14/2008 6:24:42 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: pissant
"Huck has been caught in more than a few whoppers already"

EEEEEuuuuuuuuuwwwwww, that image is going to make trips to Burger King much more difficult to handle.

193 posted on 02/14/2008 6:25:03 AM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: sticker

Like the black man who calls another “brother”.


194 posted on 02/14/2008 6:26:41 AM PST by steve8714 (Loyalty has an expiration date and is not transferable.)
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To: SLB

This is pathetic. This is a pseudo-spiritual ad-hominem attack on Rush because the man doesn’t agree with his Political analysis of Huckabee.

Rush and Sean did not attack Mike Huckabee spiritually.

Pastor Bob is unable to differentiate between political and moral criticism.

I am embarrassed at this tirade and that is all it is. And he doesn’t have any more right to his opinion than Rush or Sean or the others...so they are no more guilty of a fault than is he, except that they are CORRECT about some of the liberal positions of Mike Huckabee, and I also know that whether a candidate is a Christian or not is not a criteria for public office and that Rush and Sean have a Right to their opinions.
I have seen from the beginning that Huckabee subtly used his Christianity for his own purposes in this campaign. I think that is shameful.
Now all of these are opinion. God is the Righteous Judge.
If Mike Huckabee has done some liberal governing in his past, it will be in the record, which it is, and that is what Rush was addressing.
Period.


195 posted on 02/14/2008 6:26:49 AM PST by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD................)
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To: SLB

From the Article: “There was a time when one could turn the dial to Rush Limbaugh and/or Sean Hannity and expect to hear the truth.”

Baa-baa! Think for yourself you sheep. There’s only one source of “truth” in this life and it ain’t talk radio hosts.


196 posted on 02/14/2008 6:27:57 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: SLB

We are not electing a Bishop, Pope, Head Reverend, Imam or any other spiritual leader. We are electing a President.

Huckabee can go pound sand.


197 posted on 02/14/2008 6:28:06 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Nextrush

You are missing the point of what Rush and Sean do every day. Neither one wants “ blind followers” - they want thinking folk to consider the points they raise as a counter to the MSM. And then MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND.

OTOH, it’s the pastors who want uncritical followers to just do as they are told.


198 posted on 02/14/2008 6:28:10 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: SLB
No sale AND an abuse of the pastoral role.

This is not only stupid, but embarrassingly stupid.

199 posted on 02/14/2008 6:31:35 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Dixie Yooper
“..the fact that Limbaugh, Hanity and Coulter have decided to throw the USA under the bus in order to teach the moderates in the Republican Party a lesson is beyond belief.”

Boy do you have it wrong. None of those listed could MAKE me vote for McCain. Liberals in the republican party have forced themselves on me once too many times. People like you said, Who is are they going to vote for? They’ll come around again, just like they always do...

Not this time, you gambled and you lost. It’s not my fault republicans will lose in a landslide. It’s yours for trying to cram an 80,000 year old liberal senator down my throat that has enjoyed running to the nearest camera and stopping Conservatives while promoting amnesty.

Now lets see if you have the votes to win, know that you’ve alienated all the conservatives. You made your bed, you lie in it.

200 posted on 02/14/2008 6:32:42 AM PST by Robbin
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