Posted on 02/13/2008 8:06:19 AM PST by IrishMike
Of all the ways to describe Tuesday night as a bad night for Hillary Clinton, perhaps the most dramatic is to point out this: the pundits on CNN and MSNBC started comparing her to Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani, of course, has become a national punch line for his decision to skip the first four Republican contests and put all his chips on Florida, where he lost humiliatingly because ... he skipped the first four Republican contests.
Clinton is not in that bad a position, and fans of Barack Obama who are tempted to think so need to refrain from gloating - as of today, Clinton is still way ahead in Ohio, and a Giuliani-like collapse either there or in Texas seems unlikely.
But the tea leaves of Obama's dominating, 20-plus-percentage point win in Virginia - the seat of the old Confederacy, it still bears mentioning - contain bleak auguries for the erstwhile inevitable candidate.
A few striking numbers - some of them stunning numbers - from the Virginia exit polls. Obama carried white men with 55%. He carried Latinos with 55%. He carried Catholics with 52%. He carried voters with incomes under $50,000 with 59%. He carried independents with 62% - and far more independents voted in the Democratic primary, for Obama, than in the GOP primary, for McCain. And he carried Republicans who chose to vote in the Democratic primary (they constituted 7% of the vote) with 70%.
And, lest the Clinton campaign try to say that Obama's win was the result of his popularity among said independents and Republicans? Obama carried Democrats with 59%.
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The STENCH of defeat, they mean..
>> Giuliani, of course, has become a national punch line for his decision to skip the first four Republican contests and put all his chips on Florida, where he lost humiliatingly because ... he skipped the first four Republican contests.
Sadly, something similar happend to Fred Thompson.
He was billed here as the Great Political Wizard for biding his time and jumping in late.
Some of us were skeptical, but the prevailing wisdom on FR was what a genius Fred was for bucking the system.
RIP, Fred. The only candidate that was worth a damn screwed himself, I’m afraid.
Is this one of those primaries where republicans can vote for democraps?
oooohh.... they don’t like it so much when it happens to them.
How many more of these are there?
Republican is decided, so go vote against the witch!! in the democrat primaries, just like they did for us with McCain...
It doesn’t matter what they have to do to get it.
Even if it means DEAD BODIES ... .
That way the GOP will get more black voters.
The Dems better hope she wins the remaining big states and takes the nomination fair and square, because she will figure out a way to get the nomination at the convention. And if she does steal it there will blood in the aisles in Denver. It won’t be pretty. The super delegates are there for a purpose, i.e. keeping real control of the process in the hands of the party bosses and out of the hands of the people who can’t be trusted to follow the script.
Poor Hillary. Where is Lucy Ramirez when she’s needed?
Geez. And I can't get a job as an editor because I don't have a degree. Is it my imagination, or have I seen a higher number of badly written articles posted lately?
My crystal ball may not be better than anyone else's, but I'm not sure why anyone on the GOP side would prefer an Obama candidacy to a Hillary one. People are nuts for Obama. He's young and energetic (if naive and misguided) while our guy is old and not so energetic. Hillary is disliked by so many, she just seems more beatable to me.
I am inclined to believe that. I don't know how, but she will pull something out of her caboose. Look at my tagline... those must be her sentiments, exactly -- LOL
Yeah...I feel about the same way, but it’s a tough call. As long as he remains true to his socialist roots, I believe he can be had. If during the national election he swings a bit to the right (or center, really) he will be hard. Remember: both sides compete for the independents.
She’s not worried. The “Super Delegates” are all Clinton cronies. Obama can only pull so many rabbits out of his hat because Hillary owns the “Magic Show”.
I think most of us agree with you; we just wanted a high dose of chaos for the 'rats. We thought the nominatrix was inevitable, I guess. We misunderestimated the bominator.
Any complacency on Obama’s part at this point could kill his campaign. The serpent is down, but nowhere near out. Until the head is severed from the body— metaphorically speaking of course, she will keep coming back.
That's what's so fascinating! Do you know what kind of hell-to-pay that would engender?
Looks that way. Seems every day some new Rat is giving up on the Clintons. Sort of like dumping the garbage.
I woke up to someone calling into a radio show saying she will get the nomination. Nothing will stand in her way. I agree - if I were Obama I would watch my backside!
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