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The McCain Mutiny
IBD ^ | February 11, 2008

Posted on 02/11/2008 5:48:13 PM PST by Kaslin

Republicans: George Bush insists John McCain is a true conservative. James Dobson says he's not. Meanwhile, Newsweek predicts "there will be blood" in the GOP. We predict a Republican president. There has to be.


McCain wasn't our first choice, but in the field that remains, he's the best choice. It would be disastrous for America if those conservative purists who'd make the perfect the enemy of the good let America go down a path from which it might not recover.

President Bush, speaking on "Fox News Sunday," responded "absolutely" to host Chris Wallace's question of whether John McCain was a "true conservative." McCain is "very strong on national defense," is "tough fiscally," "believes the tax cuts ought to be permanent" and is "pro-life," Bush noted.

For Obama and Hillary, none of the above apply.

Bush did say, "I think that if John is the nominee, he has got some convincing to do to convince people that he is a solid conservative." Indeed he does, as evidenced by Mike Huckabee's win in the Nebraska caucuses over the weekend.

McCain has done well in primaries where independents could vote for him. In caucuses dominated by party activists, he's done poorly. The caucuses of Maine, Minnesota, Alaska, Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, Nevada and Wyoming were all won by Romney. One might dub McCain the "rebel without a caucus."

Ann Coulter may vote for Hillary Clinton, but we will not. The time for Coulters and the true believers to have rallied behind Mitt Romney was before Super Tuesday. It is by waiting for the next Reagan that they've risked sticking us with the next Clinton.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anyonebutmccain; conservatives; djsob; elections; ibd; mccain; mcmexico; rino
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To: Kaslin
You know I started to make a list of things that would be necessary for me to vote for McAmnesty and realized that a.) He is so far from being a conservative that it just strengthened my resolve to not vote for him. b.) That he would have to choose either Fred or Duncan for his VP (which I doubt he would ever do) c.) That the changes required of him he would never do(Iron-clad very verbal committment to enforce Employment Workplace Rules immediately and close the border within 6 months, change his position on Embryonic Stem Cell research and the Reversal of Roe vs. Wade, Withdraw his support for the Global Warming Scam, Withdraw his opposition to drilling in Anwar)

The Moderate wing of the party and the Pretend conservatives (President Bush included) can go pound sand.
21 posted on 02/11/2008 6:01:57 PM PST by SoConPubbie (McAmnesty is the End Times for the GOP)
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To: Kaslin

22 posted on 02/11/2008 6:02:02 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: CRBDeuce
I never thought I’d see it, but Annie’s been beat at her own game.....’English’!

Except for the whole lying thing. Ann didn't wait around for anything; she was on the Romney team quite early. I don't know who IBD thinks they're talking about, but it's not her.

23 posted on 02/11/2008 6:02:12 PM PST by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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To: xjcsa
"I’ve had enough lecturing from McCain backers."

Can I get an AMEN??? It's *MY* vote, not theirs, and I choose not to vote for McCain.

24 posted on 02/11/2008 6:02:18 PM PST by VegasBaby (No way to McStain)
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To: Kaslin

How would President Bush know a “True Conservative”?


25 posted on 02/11/2008 6:02:22 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Redgirl
"I.just.can’t.do.it."

Likewise.

I voted for Bush even though I had reservations. I don't have any reservations about McCain, I flat don't like him. Maybe I can hold my nose and vote for him, but I will probably vote 3rd party or just stay home.

26 posted on 02/11/2008 6:03:09 PM PST by HangThemHigh (Entropy's not what it used to be.)
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To: Kaslin
According to the GOP talking head pundits slobbering over McCain, I represent only 3.6% of the GOP vote. Why do you need me anyway? Why would you want to drag a koolaid refusing non-believer of political reach around along except for the token factor of having a conservative in the viewing cage for the rest of the dazed and confused to gawk at?

Take McCain and live out your fantasies while they last. Good luck with that, amigo. Watch out for that center stripe on the highway approaching left facing traffic. It's a killer.

27 posted on 02/11/2008 6:03:11 PM PST by TADSLOS (Cut out the middleman- Write in Calderon for El Presidente!)
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To: ladyinred
Look at some McCain votes in 2006

4. Tax Cut Rules S Con Res 83 (Roll Call 38) The Senate defeated a change in its rules that would have required a 60-vote majority to cut taxes in the future. ACU opposed this rules change, which was defeated on a 50-50 vote on March 14, 2006.

McCain voted to need 60 votes to cut taxes.

12. Immigration Overhaul—Social Security Credit S 2611 (Roll Call 130) The Senate killed an amendment barring illegal immigrants currently in the country from claiming Social Security credits for work done in years before they are assigned a valid Social Security number. ACU supported the amendment, which was killed by a vote of 50-49 on May 18, 2006.

McCain voted to let them keep their illegal credits.

15. Same-Sex Marriage Ban Constitutional Amendment S J Res. 1 (Roll Call 163) The Senate defeated a motion to end a filibuster against a constitutional amendment defining marriage as consisting only of the union of a man and a woman. ACU supported the constitutional amendment and thus supported this motion, which got a majority of the votes, but failed because 60 votes are required to end a filibuster. The vote was 49-48 on June 7, 2006.

McCain voted to not to not end the filibuster.

22. Border Fencing HR 5441 (Roll Call 200) The Senate rejected an amendment providing for the construction of 370 miles of double-layered fencing and at least 461 miles of vehicle barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border. ACU supported the amendment, which failed 29-71 on July 13, 2006.

McCain voted against the border fence.

23. Embryonic Stem Cell Research HR 810 (Roll Call 206) The Senate passed a bill allowing the use of federal funds in research on embryonic stem cells. ACU opposed this legislation, which passed by a vote of 63-37 on July 18, 2006.

McCain voted for embryonic stem cell research.

28 posted on 02/11/2008 6:03:33 PM PST by Galactica
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To: Kaslin

Uh, we all know Reagan is gone. McCain though, is a liberal turd. We would never even begin to compare him with Reagan. However, we may compare him to Ted Kennedy or his buddy Hillary Clinton. After all, if John McCain says Mrs. Clinton would be a good president, why vote for McCain?

McCain is a lousy conservative and he is a lousy democrat. That tells me he is pretty much a zero, and a man of no values.


29 posted on 02/11/2008 6:04:18 PM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: CindyDawg
We have had a few Reagans run.

If you are referring to Thompson and Hunter, I must disagree. While they are conservative, neither of them had a tenth of the political skill that Reagan had. Reagan won in spite of the establishment. The campaigns of Thompson and Hunter were pathetic.

30 posted on 02/11/2008 6:04:29 PM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: Galactica

31 posted on 02/11/2008 6:04:38 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Kaslin
John Mclaim cannot and WILL not be elected president..
American women want and will have Universal health Care..

Amazing how many republicans are oblivious in denial..
It WILL NOT HAPPEN.. No matter how unified the party elite gets..
Many many will not vote for mclaim under any circumstances..
A turncoat and weasel is despised for good reason..

Hillary WILL BE elected president get used to it..
And make some PRACTICLE plan..

32 posted on 02/11/2008 6:04:42 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks, but no thanks.


33 posted on 02/11/2008 6:04:53 PM PST by Bogie
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To: Kaslin

Look, I admire a lot about President Bush, and I additionally believe he’s gonna look like an 80 percent approval prez roundabout 2010. But he is the last person who has any claim to determining who is a “true conservative.” It’s laughable. The man’s first offense against conservatives was his “compassionate conservative” byline. Surely we understood that was an insult—if we had been conservative all our lives we did. Now he’s selling us McCain, as a parting shot. Sorry. I ain’t buying.


34 posted on 02/11/2008 6:05:51 PM PST by CZB
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To: Kaslin

Just floating an idea. The last President that was a Senator was LBJ. He kind of won in 64 cause the Nation was still in morning so he got that one by default.

Not a McCain supporter, but do you think the reason they have such a difficult time with their “baggage?” Their voting record in the house of compromise?


35 posted on 02/11/2008 6:06:30 PM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: indylindy

That is fine, just as long as you don’t stay home in November. As there is more at stake then just the presidency. All 435 House members are up for reelection as are 35 Senate seats (I could be wrong with this number). The left would like nothing more then us sitting the election out so they could not only win the White House but keep us from getting the House and the Senate back. If we won’t be able to do so it will be gone for us for decades to come


36 posted on 02/11/2008 6:06:42 PM PST by Kaslin (Peace is the aftermath of victory)
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To: Redgirl
I believe Reagan’s conservative credentials were not to everyone’s liking either. He barely edged out Bush for the nomination. If McCain is nominee I’ll vote for him because he strong on many important issues important and seems to be willing to listen on others.

What I can not do is to throw Presidency to Obama or Clinton. I also positively do not think it will be any good for the country and neither for us. The whole idea of getting Presidency by stonewalling and/or letting your opponent screw up is pathetic. It also has a chance to work only if MSM is on your side and MSM is not.

Besides with Obama or Clinton’s fairness doctrine plus a couple of kooky Supreme Court judges there will be nothing else, but MSM. There will be such regulation of the campaign finance and speech that conservatives might as well forget of getting back to power for any foreseeable future.

37 posted on 02/11/2008 6:08:18 PM PST by alecqss
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To: ladyinred

Absolutely spot on. We all have problems with McCain. However, there is NOTHING to recommend in greasing the path for a victory for HRC or Obama, Nothing. Freepers who pound their chest in protest are simply juveniles having a hissy fit. sorry, that’s what it sounds like. If you have a problem supporting McCain, as I do, just call it a vote against an onslaught of unfettered socialism. And, don’t give me the nonsense McCain is no better. That’s puerile silliness.


38 posted on 02/11/2008 6:08:26 PM PST by davidtalker (David Gold - goldtalk.com)
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To: Kaslin

I am planning on voting in state and local elections. I will write in a POTUS candidate. I will not vote for a man that would employ Juan Hernandez.

Even the Democrats haven’t put Juan Hernandez on their staffs.


39 posted on 02/11/2008 6:09:26 PM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: pissant

#28 if you can get a little better documentation.


40 posted on 02/11/2008 6:09:39 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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