Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

£35m contract allows assembly of Navy Super Carriers
uk MoD ^ | 11 feb 08 | uk MoD

Posted on 02/11/2008 1:54:12 PM PST by Rikstir

The start of an investment project to modify the dockyard at Rosyth, in preparation for the assembly of the two Royal Navy super carriers was witnessed today, 11 February 2008, by Defence Secretary Des Browne.

The two 65,000 tonne aircraft carriers, HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales, are to be constructed in sections in shipyards at Portsmouth and Barrow-in-Furness, Glasgow, with final assembly at Babcock's Rosyth in Scotland.

Des Browne witnessed the signing of a £35m contract today by Babcock Engineering Services with Glasgow-based subcontractors Edmund Nuttall Limited to modify the docks in order to accommodate the building of the carriers and widen its direct entrance.

(Excerpt) Read more at mod.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: british; cvf; navair; navy
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-51 next last

1 posted on 02/11/2008 1:54:21 PM PST by Rikstir
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Rikstir
Photobucket
2 posted on 02/11/2008 1:55:26 PM PST by Rikstir
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; Bean Counter; investigateworld; ...
SONOBUOY PING!

Click on pic for past Navair pings.

Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.

3 posted on 02/11/2008 1:56:32 PM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rikstir

How do these proposed Royal Navy carriers compare to ours, such as the Reagan?


4 posted on 02/11/2008 1:57:02 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (God Bless George W. Bush)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rikstir

Glad to see the Brits still want to invest in their defence, unlike the rest of the Euroweenies.


5 posted on 02/11/2008 1:58:11 PM PST by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rikstir
The two 65,000 tonne aircraft carriers...

Um, no offense to our British friends but a supercarrier starts at 75,000 ton displacement.

6 posted on 02/11/2008 1:59:51 PM PST by pgyanke ("Huntered"--The act of being ignored by media and party to prevent name recognition)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeusExMachina05

What became of the angle deck ?


7 posted on 02/11/2008 2:00:15 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: AxelPaulsenJr
From Wikipedia:

"Ronald Reagan displaces approximately 95,000 tons of water fully loaded, has a top speed of over 30 knots, powered by two nuclear reactors driving four screws, and can sail for over 20 years before needing to refuel.[2] She is nearly as long as the Empire State Building is tall[3] at 1,092 feet (333 m) and is 134 feet (41 m) wide at the beam and has a flight deck 252 feet (77 m) wide. The flight deck covers over 4.5 acres (18,000 m²). She carries more than 5,500 sailors and over 80 aircraft. The ship is the winner of the 2006 Battle "E" for West Coast carriers."


8 posted on 02/11/2008 2:01:21 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: AxelPaulsenJr
How do these proposed Royal Navy carriers compare to ours, such as the Reagan?

280 meters to our 332.85 meters.
65,000 tonnes to our 97,000 tons.
And 40 aircraft to our 85.

9 posted on 02/11/2008 2:02:11 PM PST by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: pgyanke

Well these will be 75,000 fully loaded. In any event the Queen Elizabeth class carriers will be a lot closer to the Nimitz class then to the Invincible class their replacing.

It could also be that they’re using better materials to lighten the load.


10 posted on 02/11/2008 2:03:58 PM PST by Raymann
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks
What became of the angle deck?

Have the Brits ever had an angled deck?

11 posted on 02/11/2008 2:07:19 PM PST by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Tatze

They have. I think they were for use when the Harrier was the seagoing jet of choice for the Brits.


12 posted on 02/11/2008 2:08:53 PM PST by em2vn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: pgyanke
They might be referring to a METRIC TONNE, which is about 1.1 "short" (US ton = 2000lb), which would make each carrier = 65,000 * 1.1 = 71,500 short tons.

Closer, but no Sea-gar

13 posted on 02/11/2008 2:11:18 PM PST by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Tatze

He’s speaking of the Ski Jump deck I think.

If this project comes to pass, it will be a good thing for the Royal Navy, but I doubt they will have the finances to sustain it in the long run.

A big carrier will give them a larger stick to wield in the world community. I would venture a guess that the only reason theyre building these is the emerging threat from the Chinese.


14 posted on 02/11/2008 2:12:06 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Chuin, Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: pgyanke

Given the relative size of our country compared to yours and the difference in GDP and defence expenditure I would argue that these represent the best outside the US. No other nation besides the US, UK (and possibly China and Russia) are embarking on such an advanced carrier to take their navies into the 21st century.

It is said that the QE class is will embark as many combat aircraft as did Operation Granby in 1991. And as been noted by others here, composite structures will reduce the weight of the vessel to what it is proposed to be. If it were built 20+ years back the vessel would probably weigh 1,000,000 tonnes!


15 posted on 02/11/2008 2:15:54 PM PST by Rikstir
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: pgyanke
Photobucket
16 posted on 02/11/2008 2:17:14 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Tatze
They invented the carrier angle deck, along with the steam catapult and one other fixture of today’s US carrier fleet...
17 posted on 02/11/2008 2:18:11 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: em2vn

Harrier still is the seagoing choice of jet for the RN. The GR9 is going to be flown from the QE Class until the F35 is sorted.


18 posted on 02/11/2008 2:18:47 PM PST by Rikstir
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks

I believe that the lack of an angled deck is related to the plane of choice. The F35B is the STOVL variant, and they intend to take off via the ramp, and land vertically on the tail.

The angled deck is intended to allow simultaneous takeoff and landing operations, so that if a plane which is landing has a problem/has to abort, the angled landing trajectory will carry it away from the planes which are taking off from the forward part of the (straight) deck.

Due to STOVL, this shouldn’t be necessary, as planes which are landing vertically will not be carrying enough velocity to require the angled deck. Or arrestor cables for that matter.

Just a thought...


19 posted on 02/11/2008 2:20:07 PM PST by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Kommodor

Probably right. Is the F-35 VTOL ?


20 posted on 02/11/2008 2:22:32 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-51 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson