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1 posted on 02/11/2008 12:29:46 AM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Bet the locals feel real safe


2 posted on 02/11/2008 12:33:48 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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“...in an attempt to meet energy targets”.

Coming soon to a town near you.


3 posted on 02/11/2008 12:36:28 AM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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Can’t wait to see the actuarial calculations of the worth of a human life, assaults, various injuries, etc. in CO2.


4 posted on 02/11/2008 12:37:15 AM PST by Truth29
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That will increase criminal activity.


5 posted on 02/11/2008 12:38:50 AM PST by Cindy
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Wait, this is brilliant.

The UK is addicted to surveillance. When these lights got out in suburbia, the security cameras on your house are going to catch a whole lotta nothing!

Even better, any smart criminal is going to wait until they go out, mug 50 old women in the same neighborhood putting their cats/dogs out for the night, and be home before breakfast.

Saaaaayyyy...that isn't a bad idea! UK HERE I COME!
6 posted on 02/11/2008 12:40:48 AM PST by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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What the hell is happening with those Brits??

Exchanging human safety for CO2 emissions?? I’m just shaking my head on those wankers. The PC police has taken over....oh wait, the Muslims beat them to it.


8 posted on 02/11/2008 12:48:20 AM PST by max americana
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Insanity


9 posted on 02/11/2008 12:50:35 AM PST by skr (How majestic is Thy Name, O Lord, and how mighty are Thy Works!)
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how quickly people forget WHY they were introduced in the first place and this all for the fake god that demands submission in the name of co2...

i wonder how many lives will they accept for 600 tons of co2?

1,5, 20 ....??


10 posted on 02/11/2008 1:02:21 AM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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Hampshire is the county I live in; can’t say I’ve noticed anything but will keep a lookout now this has been brought to my attention


11 posted on 02/11/2008 1:03:57 AM PST by Mac1
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Welcome to North Korea.


12 posted on 02/11/2008 1:09:51 AM PST by DB
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Take their guns, take their street lights socialism works so well. /sarcasm


14 posted on 02/11/2008 2:49:10 AM PST by bmwcyle (the Beltway crowd is like a bunch of women who have started menstruating together)
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Kinda reminds me of Atlas Shrugged.


15 posted on 02/11/2008 2:51:34 AM PST by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"--Ayn Rand)
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This in a country where they arrest homeowners who defend themselves against invaders.
Of course crime will increase, but the buggers in office don’t care.


19 posted on 02/11/2008 3:29:21 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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I wonder when they will go back to conditions during World War Two of blacking out the headlights.


20 posted on 02/11/2008 3:39:33 AM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the work of the media.)
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Make people shut off the heat and lights in their houses, too. That will help even more.


21 posted on 02/11/2008 4:57:16 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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Will they also *roll up the sidewalks*?

Last one out, make sure the door is locked.


22 posted on 02/11/2008 5:25:00 AM PST by wolfcreek (Powers that be will lie like Clintons and spend like drunken McCains to push their Globalist agenda.)
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A flood of passport applications coming their way.


26 posted on 02/11/2008 3:32:33 PM PST by Ezekiel
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Most of the opinions expressed on this web-site re the curfew on lighting are pitiful, to put it mildly. They show a blatant disregard for the environment, and those responsible for such opinions are part of the problem.

Let’s get one thing straight. Lighting does not reduce crime. This has been well established over the past few years, yet people persist in installing more and brighter lighting in the mistaken belief that it will help. Nothing could be further from the truth. Most crime occurs in daylight, ergo criminals need light. If you expand lighting, then you will encourage people to behave at night more as they would do during the day. If lighting stops crime, explain why it is that during power cuts, criminality drops to zero?
I’m not against lighting, but it must only be used sparingly, on a needs must basis; when needed, where needed, and in the correct amounts. Street lighting where deemed necessary should be full cut-off or better, and all security lighting should be motion operated. On minor suburban roads street lighting should be subject to an 11p.m. till dawn curfew, and not switched on again until the following night. Decorative lighting that does not serve any useful purpose should not be tolerated.
So how do we guarantee safety on our streets? There are methods of making roads safer without naive recourse to street lighting - cat’s eyes, reflective paints, and baffles on motorway reservations rank high on the list.
Two thirds of all street lighting could (and probably should) be eliminated without any serious effect.
So what are the benefits of reduced lighting? First and foremost we regain our night. Living things need darkness in order to function normally, and the orange fog that currently pervades our cities prevents them from getting it. Lights attract insects, so our cities have been sucking them up for decades, like a vacuum cleaner. Consequently the country has become increasingly sterile. So what you might ask? Well, any decline in insects will have a concomitant effect on higher order consumers, and because of this we are now seeing serious declines in spiders, amphibians, reptiles, common birds and small mammals. If that does not concern you then go on as before, but the environment will pay you back anyway, with compounded interest.
Insects also pollinate plants, so the decline of insects is important because it will ultimately affect crop production. Reduced plant diversity will exacerbate the already declining insect population, making the situation worse.
Increased lighting levels also affect humans. It suppresses melatonin secretion by the pineal gland. Melatonin is also an anti-oxidant that suppresses cancer, and this has lead to increased levels of breast and prostate cancer in illuminated areas. This is backed up by the fact that blind women rarely get breast cancer.
Satellite imagery of the Earth at night that became available during the mid 1990’s revealed the lights of thousands of cities world-wide, cooking the atmosphere all night, three hundred and sixty nights a year, year in, year out. It is no longer possible to deny that this is having an effect on global warming, and this is not taking into consideration the carbon dioxide emissions produced from the fuel used to keep them going.
So to conclude, all this excessive lighting is detrimental not only to the environment, but to ourselves. Darkness is normal at night, and the sooner we realise that fact, the better. These curfews are coming because they are an absolute necessity, so the nay-sayers should put up and shut up.


27 posted on 05/19/2008 3:25:13 AM PDT by Colin Henshaw
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That will make conditions unsafe for burglars. Expect lawsuits...


31 posted on 05/19/2008 4:38:04 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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Streetlights have no effect on crime or traffic safety.


37 posted on 05/19/2008 1:37:28 PM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
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