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GOV. Charlie Crist - LIVE ON FOX -- Taling up McCain..
FOX ^ | LIVE | David Osborne

Posted on 02/10/2008 7:28:17 PM PST by davidosborne

Sorry Gov. Crist not buying it... anyone else watcing this?

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2008; anyonebutmccain; crist; fl2008; justsayno2johnmccain; mccain
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To: ari-freedom
2) deporting millions of hispanics will ensure that the GOP will be a permanent minority. It will also create a big police state. This is a problem that is harder than the war on drugs

That argument is completely false and I can't believe anyone except McCain and Geraldo Rivera is still using it. No one has proposed deporting illegal aliens en masse. Securing the border and enforcing the laws on the books, ie prosecute those who employ illegals, will dry up the jobs and the illegal aliens will deport themselves at their own expense. Many of them paid as much as $5,000 dollars to get here they can afford to go home.

Your straw man has been knocked down a thousand times here at FR. It's a lie.

101 posted on 02/10/2008 9:19:21 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm a maverick. I'm sticking with conservatism.)
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To: samadams2000

first you have to find everyone. There are millions of people across the country. men, women and children. You’d end up with some kind of Stalinist police force in order to pull this off.


102 posted on 02/10/2008 9:21:16 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom

We are winning the war in Iraq and McCain’s amnesty and his lead on Glowbull Warming legislation will be more crippling to our economy than anything that has happened yet in our history.


103 posted on 02/10/2008 9:25:46 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm a maverick. I'm sticking with conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom

For we in San Diego, the illegals by the tens of thousands are sucking up the economy.
We spend tens of millions of dollars a year funding these illegals with their health care, on down the line.

Duncan Hunter wrote the legislation of the Border Fence and D.C. has drug their feet getting it going and recently the funding was pulled thanks to the pro illegals in the Senate.

If we don’t win the WOT and deal with the illegals and border issues, the economy as a whole will mean nothing as they don’t make pockets in shrouds.


104 posted on 02/10/2008 9:26:26 PM PST by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: TigersEye

I would agree with that. But there are posters that want a mass deportation. it just isn’t possible


105 posted on 02/10/2008 9:26:29 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: TigersEye

we won’t win the war if the dems take over the oval office


106 posted on 02/10/2008 9:27:37 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom

A few posters on an internet forum. Serious conservative politicians have called for deportation on contact, secure borders and enforcement of employment laws on the books. Those three things will dry up the jobs and illegal aliens will self deport. They earn enough to send 60% of Mexico’s GDP back from the States every year so they can afford the trip back home.


107 posted on 02/10/2008 9:30:02 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm a maverick. I'm sticking with conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom
We're not likely to do any better with McCain in office.

McCain Argues for U.S. Troop Withdrawl from Somalia Mr. Blackhawk Down (YouTube VIDEO)

You will recognize his arguments as the same ones liberals are now using for leaving Iraq. Add his defense of terrorists rights, restricting interrogation techniques and his support of the KLA and I have a real problem believing he will be anything but weak on foreign policy.

McCAIN AND THE KLA CONNECTION

108 posted on 02/10/2008 9:34:51 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm a maverick. I'm sticking with conservatism.)
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To: TigersEye

building the border should be something the federal govt can do


109 posted on 02/10/2008 9:35:59 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom

A DEM brought to power because the GOP failed to produce an acceptable candidate will have ZERO power..


110 posted on 02/10/2008 9:37:32 PM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: TigersEye

somalia? oh come on. you’re not being serious here.


111 posted on 02/10/2008 9:38:28 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom

100% SERIOUS MY FRIEND...


112 posted on 02/10/2008 9:40:17 PM PST by davidosborne (http://DuncanHunter.meetup.com/1 - GrassRoots Organization(s) to elect Duncan Hunter)
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To: davidosborne

yes he will. A win is a win. Even Bush with 30% approval rating has more power than dem control of both houses.


113 posted on 02/10/2008 9:40:58 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom
You want to be pragmatic? What is the pragmatic reality of giving amnesty to (I'll be conservative) 10 million illegal aliens? The last three general elections have been amazingly close to 50/50. What will 10 million new Dem voters do to that? Under current law, with no changes offered under McCain/Kennedy, those 10 million new citizens can bring in and naturalize all of their extended family members. Would 3 each be a reasonable estimate? That's another 30 million Dem voters in the next 10 - 15 years.

Never mind how many entitlements those 40 million new citizens will want...and vote for themselves.

Now, pragmatically speaking, who would Republicans in Congress be more likely to fight against? A Dem Pres. or a Republican Pres who has been the architect of Amnesty?

114 posted on 02/10/2008 9:43:05 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm a maverick. I'm sticking with conservatism.)
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To: davidosborne

maybe we should be for going to haiti too? Somalia is not in the same league as Iraq, by any measure.


115 posted on 02/10/2008 9:43:30 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom

What isn’t serious about Somalia? Did you view the video?


116 posted on 02/10/2008 9:44:13 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm a maverick. I'm sticking with conservatism.)
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To: TigersEye

not yet...I just don’t think we had any business in somalia so I have no problem with withdrawal.


117 posted on 02/10/2008 9:49:30 PM PST by ari-freedom (Pragmatism: the 4th leg of conservatism.)
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To: ari-freedom

Somalia is another area where Al Qaida has been active.

Of the thousands in Somalia who have fled, there are several thousands here in San Diego we are supporting
because the enemy wasn’t stopped in their country.


118 posted on 02/10/2008 9:49:56 PM PST by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: ari-freedom

*don’t think we had any business in somalia*

You must have thought bad idea to fight Hitler since he didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor


119 posted on 02/10/2008 9:52:28 PM PST by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: ari-freedom

I think its extremely important to send the message that illegals are not wanted and will not be allowed to stay in our country. You start with some, move to more and end will all.


120 posted on 02/10/2008 9:52:31 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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