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Secret Nightclubs Open As Strip Club Restrictions Go Into Effect
NewsNet5.com ^ | 02-03-08 | AP

Posted on 02/10/2008 5:11:36 PM PST by GOP_Lady

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To: Moleman

I agree with you up to a point. However, since we don’t live in a vacuum, I guess my point stops in a different place. Not to use a rather tired slogan, but children are involved here. Children who are influenced, children who are aborted, children who have to grow up fatherless which is a well documented disadvantage, etc. So I think even a classic libertarian, considering the extensive damage done to minors, might be able to hold my position.


101 posted on 02/11/2008 12:59:33 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: Army Air Corps
“I think that I am going to start growing tobacco as an act of defiance.”

I started doing that 3 or 4 years ago when they raised the tobacco tax $1 a pack here in Oklahoma. I have 3 different variaties stored up now along with a lot of seed. It can be a fair amount of work, but it’s a fun hobby and legal to boot. Send me a note and I’ll fill you in or go to coffinnails.com for loads of info. That’s were I got my startup seeds.

102 posted on 02/11/2008 1:36:13 PM PST by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never guit defending it.)
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To: GOP_Lady
"These guys aren't stupid," Lazzaro said of the smokehouse operators. "They know that if they want to stay open, they have to fly below the radar, avoid complaints and the attention of neighbors."

Well, maybe them being 'underground' isn't such a bad thing. I've never seen an area of town where a strip club has opened that hasn't gone downhill.

103 posted on 02/11/2008 1:45:57 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: DaveinOK54

(edited tag line) First post sorry....


104 posted on 02/11/2008 1:46:11 PM PST by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: thinking
Frankly, I am of the opinion that hookers/prostitutes, enjoy their life, they like sex, and numerous partners

How many of these women do you know personally? None of the ones we ever ran into in our ministries to the homeless were ever happy or enjoyed their lives. They got into prostitution out of desparation or because their self-esteem was so low they felt they weren't worth anything else.

105 posted on 02/11/2008 1:51:21 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
Yes, and I am sure your observations are correct...I would guess there is social structure within the ranks of the hookers...the street types face a harsh world...my comments are of the “upper” class types..if I can use that description, who operate out of Condos, and homes...
106 posted on 02/11/2008 1:58:15 PM PST by thinking
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To: wrench

Well, dang, dude, I need to hang out more with you.


107 posted on 02/11/2008 2:48:21 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Global2010

So much cheaper to run a speakeasy than to actually open a bar. Just the liquor license alone will set you back.


108 posted on 02/11/2008 4:37:21 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Yaelle

Both of your points are certainly correct - maybe you do understand economics better than you give yourself credit for. :-)

Your 1st point about the IRS is correct and the FairTax would not take effect until the income tax in eliminated via constitutional amendment.

Underground economies will always exist as well, but with the FairTax everyone is really part of an underground economy which is really one of the primary appeals of the system.

Under the FairTax, it doesn’t matter if you make $70K as a engineer, drug dealer or prostitute - everyone is only taxed when they by a retail item.


109 posted on 02/11/2008 5:30:22 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: GOP_Lady

Let’s keep in mind that Huckabee is for a Nationwide smoking ban.....


110 posted on 02/11/2008 6:56:46 PM PST by estrogen (.)
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To: GOP_Lady

Let’s keep in mind that Huckabee is for a Nationwide smoking ban.....


111 posted on 02/11/2008 6:56:57 PM PST by estrogen (.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Thanks for the compliment. I did fall asleep in economics class in college though... ;)

Seriously, from what I have read about the FairTax, the only serious flaw is that it’s a little bit utopian. Too much of what Huckabee supports necessitates a constitutional amendment, and it’s just not that easy to pull off. Getting rid of the IRS is slightly harder than melting the Wicked Witch to get the broomstick.

I really liked what Thompson was saying about the flatter tax. Now that is a path that can actually lead from where we are today. That might be the better way to go at this point. He was all for abolishing the death tax, too.


112 posted on 02/11/2008 8:10:54 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: GOP_Lady
"They have succeeded in creating this underground, sleazy, cash-only business that cannot be regulated, taxed or secured by police," said attorney Skip Lazzaro, who represents legal nightclubs.

This has obviously angered city hall and local politicians who feel entitled to a share of the graft and protection money.
113 posted on 02/11/2008 8:14:40 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: RichInOC
“You can make it illegal, but you can’t make it unpopular.”

Well put.

114 posted on 02/12/2008 9:10:20 AM PST by secretagent (When cooking frogs - don't bring to a boil too rapidly.)
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