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Al-Qaeda, Taliban chiefs hiding in Pakistan: US official
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 2/8/08 | P. Parameswaran

Posted on 02/08/2008 6:23:04 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders Osama bin Laden and Mullah Mohammad Omar and their top commanders are hiding in Pakistan, posing a "huge challenge" to the security of the country and neighboring Afghanistan, a senior US administration official said Friday.

"There is no question that the iconic leaders of Al-Qaeda -- (Ayman al-) Zawahiri, bin Laden ... are in the tribal areas of Pakistan," the official said at a media briefing.

"We believe that the Taliban's shura (consultation) council leaders led by Mullah Omar reside in Quetta in Pakistan," he said, referring to the capital of rugged Baluchistan province bordering Afghanistan.

The sanctuaries were not only helping Taliban fight the insurgency against Afghan President Hamid Karzai's administration, which is backed by US and NATO troops, but also posing a threat to Pakistan and beyond central Asia, the official said.

"There is a threat to the east into (Pakistan), in the west into Afghanistan and there is threat beyond Central Asia to the extent that Al-Qaeda has reach," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Just as Mullah Omar is giving strategic direction for the Taliban from Quetta, the Al-Qaeda senior leadership is in the FATA doing its planning," he said.

Pakistan's federally administrated tribal areas (FATA) borders Afghanistan.

It is among the clearest statements by the United States on the location of the Al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders.

Pakistan has repeatedly denied the presence of bin Laden or Omar in its territory. Washington has placed multi-million dollar rewards for their heads.

The Taliban was ousted in a US-led invasion in 2001, after the September 11 terror attacks masterminded by bin Laden, who was provided sanctuary by the extremist regime in Kabul at that time.

More than six years after the ouster, US and NATO-led troops are still waging an uphill battle against the Taliban.

The US official said the United States had seen clear links between the insurgency in Afghanistan and Pakistan through the Pashtun group, an ethnic minority mostly living along the troubled Afghan-Pakistani border.

"We also know that there are very clear Pashtun tribal links up through the FATA, especially in north and south Waziristan, where Pashtuns who live in Pakistan are supporting Pashtuns, who are fighting in Afghanistan.

"In some cases, they are the one and same people -- they live in Pakistan, they commute to the fight, they fight for a while in Afghanistan and retreat back into safe haven inside Waziristan," the official said.

He said that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda over the last six months had not only taken up their fight from their "safe haven" west into Afghanistan but also into the east, into the areas of Pakistan itself.

Underscoring concerns over the militant groups' logistical gains was the December assassination of former premier Benazir Bhutto in Rawalpindi, a city where the army has its headquarters, about seven miles from the capital Islamabad, he said.

CIA Director Michael Hayden said last month that suspected Al-Qaeda militants and allies of Pakistani tribal leader Baitullah Mehsud were behind Bhutto's murder and warned of a "newly active alliance" between Pakistani and international terrorists against President Pervez Musharraf's administration.

"Now you have a Pashtun-based insurgency that is fighting to regain control of Afghanistan, retaining safe haven, protecting its safe haven in the FATA and in some cases has now declared open hostilities with the Pakistani government as well," the US official said.

"So, you have got this sort of layering of insurgencies here that really makes this both geographically, politically and militarily a very complex setting," he said. "It is a huge challenge."

The official also said that US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, her British counterpart David Miliband and Karzai had discussed in Kabul this week the appointment of a new United Nations envoy to Afghanistan.

Karzai had earlier refused to endorse senior British politician Paddy Ashdown, who was also the international community's former envoy to Bosnia.

"We are looking for someone who can work well inside the UN structure, someone who can bring coherence to this extremely complex mission and someone who can serve as Karzai's teammate, partner," the official said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; binladen; fata; globaljihad; hiding; jihad; mullahomar; northwestfrontier; pakistan; pashtun; taleban; taliban; waziristan; zawahiri
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To: NormsRevenge

I believe just like they got the Z man, they watch and wait and collect information. They probably know everything by now and it’s just a question of timing when to go in.


41 posted on 02/09/2008 6:45:42 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Bobkk47

Don’t worry, they have McCain.


42 posted on 02/09/2008 7:46:50 AM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: NormsRevenge; GOPJ; Tigen; AliVeritas; gonzo; nuconvert; ECM; Eyes Unclouded; SE Mom; Recon Dad; ...
Good post. It's important to speculate as loudly as possible about the location of bin Laden and Omar. If we're wrong, they'll sit and be noticed, ratted out and targeted; if we're right, they'll move and be noticed and targeted.

It's well known that Omar is in and out of Quetta, moving about NE Balochistan. Bin Laden is the hide-and-go-seek world champion.

To find him, figure out first where he is not at.

I don't believe Pakistan/FATA for a number of reasons but mainly that the Mehsud and Wazir tribes are a gossip festival that have given us many target opportunites.

Chitral has a strange people that would easily notice UBL's entourage, and Chitral has an unreliable back door.

AQ loves its back doors.

Curiously, our "senior official" never mentions Yuldashev and his Uzbeks. They are AQ's muscle and tour guides and travel planners. They don't talk and op security is very solid.

The Uzbeks love Nouristan and Bajaur and the corridor of Waqan. Our new base, opening next month, on the Paki border gives us a terrific look down capability.

43 posted on 02/09/2008 7:51:00 AM PST by gandalftb (Ruthless action may be only clarity...quickly, awake (Capt. Willard, Apocalypse Now))
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To: nuconvert

Since this statement, there has been an angry Pakistani denial/ response.

I hope they aren’t serious about the truth of their denial.


44 posted on 02/09/2008 8:57:06 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: G8 Diplomat
I think this is only part true - I hope to hear something soon .

They are in Pakistan that is true - but Quetta? News to me and I've been hunting Gadhahn. He has a kid now.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

45 posted on 02/10/2008 12:30:49 AM PST by expatguy ("An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - New & Improved - Now with Search)
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To: voletti; GOPJ; Tigen; AliVeritas; Grimmy; gonzo; DeaconBenjamin; indcons; sukhoi-30mki; ...

Pakistan ۋﮧ۱م

FReepmail if you want on or off

46 posted on 02/10/2008 10:32:45 AM PST by G8 Diplomat (Currently learning Farsi so someday you won't have to)
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To: expatguy
I've been hunting Gadhahn. He has a kid now.

If you find him, put a bullet in him for me.

Thanks much.

L

47 posted on 02/11/2008 8:46:19 AM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lurker

Not that he does not deserve it, but Gadhahn is one person that I would much rather hog-tie up and pass him to the Marines for a trip back to the US of A for justice to be delivered.


48 posted on 02/11/2008 9:02:37 AM PST by expatguy ("An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - New & Improved - Now with Search)
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To: expatguy
Perhaps you're correct.

As far as Waziristan goes, I'd recommend massive B-52 strikes until Osama and his goons are delivered to us all trussed up like Christmas hams.

And my solution the 'Pakistan problem' involves US SpecOps paying a little visit and securing those nukes for a speedy delivery to Oak Ridge for dismantlement.

Then we can lay waste to those 'provinces' without worry.

It's high past time for those 'people' to fear us.

L

49 posted on 02/11/2008 9:14:25 AM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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