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This is a very important and timely prediction report from the NOAA. It was difficult to read in the format it was released on the internet. Thought I would post it here with figures embedded and open up some discussion. NOAA predictions are that the La Niña colder tropical Pacific will continue through at least the spring. If you look at the predictions however, most predict that this event will continue to September and beyond. What are the implications for experiencing an extended La Niña during a low sunspot solar cycle period ? Also, anyone have any ideas what will happen with an extended La Niña after our historic 2007/2008 winter ?
1 posted on 02/08/2008 3:25:42 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 02/08/2008 3:27:42 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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I predict higher than average denial among the Man-Made Global Warming crowd.
3 posted on 02/08/2008 3:29:29 AM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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5 posted on 02/08/2008 3:32:52 AM PST by xcamel (Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
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I just hope it means a quiet 2008 hurricane season.


6 posted on 02/08/2008 3:35:08 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey McLame, you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you a'int fooling any Freepers)
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Well, I didn’t really move north in the hope that tropical temps and accompanying increased property values would soon follow...

Indeed, everything is occurring in a manner I have predicted for a few years now, based on a personal theory of a 34-year (+/-1) cycle. If I’m right, we have been in a cooling trend since about 1995 which will bottom out with the winter of 2012-13 (if you remember 1978-79, you know what I’m talking about, and it’s Not Scottish).

By 2015 I would expect to see the “next Ice Age” scare stories begin to reappear. Too late, however, as we will already be on the next upward slope.


7 posted on 02/08/2008 3:35:34 AM PST by ExGeeEye (NIE or no NIE, I've been waiting since 11/04/79 to do something about Iran.)
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In regards to figure 1, can someone explain why we have been seeing lots of moisture forming southeast of Hawaii this winter. This moisture tends to ends up traveling over Mexico and up into Texas/Southeast ? From what I have read La Nina is supposed to develop less cloud formation in the tropics and more in the Mid-Northern Pacific ?
8 posted on 02/08/2008 3:36:25 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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Punxsytawny Phil and I predict there will be weather through the end of the year. Or maybe not.

prisoner6

9 posted on 02/08/2008 3:40:01 AM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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Weather happens. It’s been happening a lot this winter and I’m sick of it.


11 posted on 02/08/2008 3:46:13 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Bill Clinton: Life Member of the Liars' Club.)
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Oh Boo Hoo, Oh Boo Hoo Hoo!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 02/08/2008 4:12:32 AM PST by Waco
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“What are the implications for experiencing an extended La Niña during a low sunspot solar cycle period ? “

Generally La Nina’s occur during low sunspot part of the cycle....see the charts and graph below

Changes to the Oceanic Niño Index (ONI)[blue numbers = la nina]
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/ensostuff/ensoyears.shtml

Sunspot cycle
http://www.icsu-fags.org/ps11sidc.htm

NASA iad in the beginning of January Cycle 24 had started...of course they also said that in August 2006! So far alsomost nothing happening... http://www.dxlc.com/solar/


18 posted on 02/08/2008 4:27:45 AM PST by Bulwinkle
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Last January, the NOAA predicted just a 1% chance of a La Nina developing and they predicted that El Nino conditions would continue. A measly 1%.

10 days later, the El Nino pattern flipped off and we went straight into a La Nina pattern. Global temperatures started declining on January 15th, 2007 and have declined by 0.6C over the past year.

The NOAA cannot forecast the ENSO. Nobody seems to able to.


22 posted on 02/08/2008 4:44:56 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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Good job. Thanks.


29 posted on 02/08/2008 5:07:23 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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Well, it's just one of the overall symptoms of Global Climate Change, you see.

See how easy it is to explain it?

30 posted on 02/08/2008 5:19:40 AM PST by OKSooner
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Well, it means here in Alabama we're goning to continue to experience this:


35 posted on 02/08/2008 5:41:08 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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Mat 16:2

He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, [It will be] fair weather: for the sky is red.

Mat 16:3

And in the morning, [It will be] foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O [ye] hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not [discern] the signs of the times?


36 posted on 02/08/2008 5:42:04 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.)
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bump,,for later read


38 posted on 02/08/2008 6:26:40 AM PST by piroque
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It has been a very tough Winter here in the West. Snoqualmie Pass has a 157” base of snow this morning. Normal is 71”. The story below says 10 feet, which is a major understament. Some areas has 20 feet with 30 foot drifts.

Record Cascade snow could mean extreme spring avalanche danger

MOUNT PILCHUCK, Wash. — Experts are warning that record snowfall this season has built up the potential for huge spring avalanches with the power to cause extensive damage to mountain hillsides, roads and bridges.
Nearly 10 feet of winter snow has accumulated already in parts of the Cascades, including near Stevens Pass. If a massive slab of snow were to break off — and conditions are in place for this type of avalanche to occur — it could ravage the landscape, destroying timber stands, homes, roads and whatever else is in the avalanche’s path.

“There’s the potential for something really big,” said Mark Moore, director of the Northwest Weather and Avalanche Center.

This winter already is the worst avalanche season in Washington in modern history. Since December, three Snohomish County residents are among the nine people from Washington who have died in avalanches.

Now, officials fear the death toll could rise and the potential for other damage from rushing walls of snow is high.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2008-01-22-cascade-avalanche_N.htm


40 posted on 02/08/2008 6:41:34 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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I thought we had La nina last summer. Here in RI it was one of the worst summers I remember. Sprinkled only twice, and every damned day was 85 and sunny. Disgusting.

If I wanted to live in hell I’d move to California.


41 posted on 02/08/2008 7:02:11 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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La Nina is a convenient “weather god” used by the climate hoaxers to account for their missing warming. It was created for the same reason that all false gods are created, to account for that which they don’t have an answer for or to conveniently account for something that is inconvenient.
46 posted on 02/08/2008 12:22:42 PM PST by Perchant
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La Nina does seem to breaking up a little


50 posted on 02/08/2008 4:36:32 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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