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Single women could usher in big government
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | December 8, 2007 | Jim Wooten

Posted on 02/08/2008 12:52:43 AM PST by a_chronic_whiner

Two trends bedevil America. One is taxes. The second, more important, is marriage.

Those who pay no taxes have no check on their appetite for services. If somebody else is paying, nothing’s unaffordable.

At the federal level, 41 percent of the U.S. population is totally outside the income tax system, according to the Washington-based Tax Foundation. Since 2000, the number of filers with no tax liability, zero, has increased from 29 million to 42 million in 2005. Of 132.6 million returns filed in 2005, only 90.6 million paid taxes. The rest got back all they’d paid in — and more.

The second and more important concern, largely because of its impact on children, is the rise of single-parent households. Over the past 25 years, the percentage has grown from a quarter to a third. In Georgia, 35 percent of children live in single-parent homes and 39.2 percent of births in 2004 were to unmarried women, according to the Annie E. Casey Foundation. Almost 70 percent of black children, almost half of Hispanic and a quarter of white children are born to unmarried women.

The liberal polling firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research singled out unmarried women and their potential impact on future elections. What it found should chill the spines of those who wish to reverse, or even slow, the growth of government — not so much because of its cost, but because Big Government steals the initiative and enterprise and independence of its wards.

“Because of the often stark economic reality of a single-income family, they [unmarried women] support an active government that will give all Americans a chance to get ahead, not just the affluent,” the organization reported.

As the nation discovered decades ago with welfare policies that pushed men out of the lives of poor women, except for procreation, women who previously found security in marriage turned instead to government. As Greenberg Quinlan Rosner find, unmarried women are a rich vein to be mined by Democrats. From its findings:

• “Marital status is playing an increasingly defining role in elections. For the 2006 congressional elections, the ‘marriage gap’ was 32 points, far bigger than the gender gap, which was just 9 points. Among women, the marriage gap was an even bigger 36 points … unmarried women tend to vote like other unmarried women, regardless of other powerful demographic variables such as age, income and education.”

• “Unmarried women are easily the largest segment of the Democratic base — bigger than Hispanics and African Americans combined.” And the second most loyal, second only to blacks. They favor Democrats over Republicans by a 70-24 margin, and Hillary Clinton over Rudy Giuliani by 66-30.

• “From 1960 to 2006, the percentage of the voting age population that was unmarried grew from 27 to 45 percent … If this trend continues, the unmarried will be a majority of the population within 15 years.”

• Their top economic concern is health care. “This group strongly supports fundamental reform to provide universal coverage that can never be taken away.”

• “In total, there are over 53 million unmarried women of voting age, a number that dwarfs the percentage of seniors, people of color and even union members.” Of those who voted in 2006, two-thirds chose Democrats. Some 20 million, however, did not vote. That’s 41 percent of the unmarrieds. Among the married, it was 29 percent. But “2008 could be very different if progressives see the opportunity before them.” Unmarried women “emerge as the largest contributor to the Democratic vote in 2008.”

Greenberg Quinlan Rosner views them as the “Democrats’ evangelicals.” opining that “if progressives turn them out, unmarried women can be as important to Democrats in 2008 as evangelicals were to Republicans in 2004.”

Combine the two: fewer people who pay taxes and a growing bloc of women who rely on government for their financial security and their household’s well-being.

The challenge for the nation is to rebuild the traditional two-parent family — primarily for the sake of children, but also as a balance to more and bigger government.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democratparty; elections; government; hillarycare; moralabsolutes; nannystate; single; taxes; unmarriedwomen; wimmenrscary; women; womensvote
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To: a_chronic_whiner

A bunch of stupid bimbos who can’t keep their knees together, and are looking for someone else to bear the costs of their irresponsible behavior. Great.


241 posted on 02/08/2008 12:51:15 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: RightWhale

But as long as you’re not cynical and bitter, I guess that’s all that matters, right?


242 posted on 02/08/2008 12:52:57 PM PST by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Allegra

Thanks Allegra, but not as nice as yours....... :-)


243 posted on 02/08/2008 12:53:12 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: coop71
"too many women are fat a$$ lazy bitches looking for the world to take care of them"

Awww, that's sweet. Does Hallmark make a card with that expression?

Now there's an idea. Maybe a little truth to the card will make them irate enough to get off their duffs and go to work and rely on their actions instead of their sex.

244 posted on 02/08/2008 12:53:40 PM PST by vetvetdoug (Just when one thinks life is strange, it gets stranger.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

I looked. Nope, not bad at all.


245 posted on 02/08/2008 12:53:52 PM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: najida

Thanks najida, but I can’t see you in yours though...


246 posted on 02/08/2008 12:54:30 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: carton253

I think I’m going to start an unofficial FReepers Singles thread closer to Valentine’s Day....


247 posted on 02/08/2008 12:56:41 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: redangus

NO ONE ever got the milk for free with me, I can assure you. I have saved myself for God’s man for me, and am still waiting (no, I’m not a freak or weird), even though I am a single homeschooling mother of four adopted siblings. One day God will bring us a man who doesn’t think I’m just looking for a Daddy for my children, and who will value who I am and what I have to offer him, which is a valuable & special gift, worthy of his attention and commitment.

One kind of a man might look at us, and see a Momma looking for a caretaker and provider — another will see a precious family who would love to share their life with him in every way, and who would bless HIS life in so many ways as well. I will know the difference, and the FIRST kind of man can just keep walking.


248 posted on 02/08/2008 12:58:53 PM PST by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

That’s too cliche and a little dangerous. It’s easy to be “lonely” when everyone is getting hearts, candy, and flowers. Lonely wears off.


249 posted on 02/08/2008 1:01:36 PM PST by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: adopt4Christ

That is absolutely wonderful. God bless you!! :-)


250 posted on 02/08/2008 1:02:04 PM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: najida
OK, do you want to hear about our lives? Some of us have stories too.

Why would I object?  You should draw from your experince and lay it out there.  I'm sure there are many people who would identify with what you've gone through.  You might be surprised who would chime in with a word of encouragement too.

Some of us have worked since our teensm put ourselves through college and have paid a small fortune in taxes.

Okay great.  That is admirable.  I will tell you that I run into women during my course of activity and over time they explain what their experiences have been.  When some of them relate how they received government assitance for periods of time, I try to be reasoned about the practice.  (No inference to you intended here at all)  I do find that these women hate the idea of the government not being there as a fall back position.  That does bother me, even if I can see that it has helped them.  It does, because it's my take that many women out there are not hustling to improve and get off the assistance.  That not being the case with you under these circumstances, I believer you are in line for well-deserved kudos.

Some of us have stayed faithful to our spouses (some of us have had rotten spouses who didn’t deserve our loyalty). AND continued to pay a small fortune in taxes, health insurance...you name it.

And you have a bonified beef here.  As for continuing to pay taxes, while that is great and you should be appreciated for having done so, I do find it to be something everyone that is upholding their end of the community bargan should be doing.

Some of us have had to be the protector, breadwinner, go getter, savior of our families. By choice or not by choice.

And where you stepped up, I think that's great.

Would you respect us if we told our side of things? Or call us “Man Haters” ?

Well, I would only urge you to look at the response I got.  Why would I dump on a woman for explaining what her experience was, unless it was so far off base that there should be some cause for reasoned objection.  Why would you have to be a man hater, to mention some real problems you saw in your relationship?

Look, my only issue is, Yeah, we’ve all had our knocks....

Yes we have.  And if a thread comes up concerning dead beat dads, I'll probably show up on it telling the man's side of things.  But that doesn't mean that I'm going to call women man-haters because they relate their own personal tales on the thread.

it’s one thing to slam an entire group and another to say “I have my moments but I’m working on being fair because I know am biased.”

I would agree with that, and where I have been to overly broad, it is entirely fair for folks to counter my assertion.  It may or may not be proof that I hate women, but I'm not going to quibble with folks who will think what they feel compelled to think.

251 posted on 02/08/2008 1:08:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: adopt4Christ

Good for you. Keep it up.

You know, my father asked my mother to marry him just 3 mos after they met - with 2 children and all. (She was divorced from an abusive seedy rat - and she didn’t want the money, she was happy to keep him out of their lives, period.) They married in another 2. He thus adopted my “half-siblings” at the ages of 6 and 7 (they asked him if they could call him “Daddy” when they knew Mom would be married). I didn’t come along until 3 years later.

There HAVE to be men out there, even today, like that.

If God wants it, you’re right, He’ll have it His way.


252 posted on 02/08/2008 1:15:45 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; DoughtyOne
the OlLine Rebel wrote:
"I’m not the 1 spouting a “men are all causing evil” line. The reverse IS a predictable trend STARTED by men,..."



Susan B. Anthony
253 posted on 02/08/2008 1:15:55 PM PST by familyop
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To: Allegra
The problem with you ladies, is that you can read about what takes place in men’s lives, dismiss it completely, then tell the guy he’s unreasonable for even bringing it up.

Who said that??  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966951/posts?page=153#153

I certainly didn't (and I haven't seen najida do so) and you flung a diatribe at me pretty much blaming me for all of your ills and putting words in my mouth about men "stealing my youth" or some garbage like that.

That post was #151.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966951/posts?page=153#153

While I did use the line about 'stealing my yout', where did I blame you for things I went through.  I made the comments I did because you said it was pretty much a problem of men and women.  And while I agree with that, you folks don't know why men are very leery of long term relationships.

I still say that if you had to face what men do going into a marriage you'd probably opt out.

Yes women face problems too, but there is a safety net set up for you folks.  Please tell me what you think compares to the alamoney and child support network set up for women?  And please remember that about 70% of the women wind up with the children.

As najida says, we've all had our knocks. I've had some very tough struggles that lasted for years. There have been plenty of rough times for me that I still shudder to remember. Everybody has bad times. I don't go blaming everyone around me for it or asking the government for help; I just resolve it the best I can and move on.

I didn't ask you to take ownership of what happend to me.  I merely asked you to understand where men are coming from.

As I said, I don't tar all men with the same brush as those who have hurt me. That would be stupid. I know too many good, decent men.

I can't aruge with that.  That's a good stance.

I will state further, that my comments in post one were overly broad.  And I think you folks should have taken me to task for it.

254 posted on 02/08/2008 1:22:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The scary thing on these threads is, I think we ALL have much more in common (including the gist of thought-processes) than is obvious. If we all could even more easily talk it out, in person, we’d find we really agree on everything deep down.

Everyone just likes to gripe about men/women sometimes. Unfortunately, when we get the opportunity, sometimes it comes off as nothing but misogyny/misandropy. Partly because the posters are generalizing and some take it personally.

I myself generally “like” men more than women based on my own experiences (outside even political trends); but I guess I take umbrage from “woman-bashing” exactly because I myself AM a woman! I take it personally, if you will. It’s hard not to. I think usually I am pretty objective, though. I also think it’s mostly a matter of tone, and the tone I get is often not pretty. That’s where I really take umbrage!


255 posted on 02/08/2008 1:22:32 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: familyop

Sorry, in my experience here on FR, it is true. Perhaps I just haven’t run into the threads where the article is based on “men issues”.


256 posted on 02/08/2008 1:23:53 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Allegra; adopt4Christ

“Say Adam, let’s go get that fruit from the tree. C’Mon! If you LOVE me!!!” ;-)


257 posted on 02/08/2008 1:24:42 PM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: familyop

I read the line. I also see a thred about the problems presented by single women that quickly turned into the men who are ultimately responsible. Is that how you see it?


258 posted on 02/08/2008 1:28:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

And I would support your comments especially in light of my post number one. It was a poor post and it deserved to be challenged.

I agree with your comments here. And I do understand why you took offense to my first thoughtless post.

It was nice of you to respond with this post. I appreciate it.


259 posted on 02/08/2008 1:30:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: DoughtyOne

BTW, where do you get “33 million”? Sorry, I cannot find it in the article, and I’m not now going to go calculate to see how it was derived.

Besides, are you talking about “single women”, or about “single MOTHERS” (i.e., I presume, never-married breeders).

Because the gist of this story sure seemed to focus on welfare queens, even if they dare not say it as such.


260 posted on 02/08/2008 1:32:08 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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