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Single women could usher in big government
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | December 8, 2007 | Jim Wooten

Posted on 02/08/2008 12:52:43 AM PST by a_chronic_whiner

Two trends bedevil America. One is taxes. The second, more important, is marriage.

Those who pay no taxes have no check on their appetite for services. If somebody else is paying, nothing’s unaffordable.

At the federal level, 41 percent of the U.S. population is totally outside the income tax system, according to the Washington-based Tax Foundation. Since 2000, the number of filers with no tax liability, zero, has increased from 29 million to 42 million in 2005. Of 132.6 million returns filed in 2005, only 90.6 million paid taxes. The rest got back all they’d paid in — and more.

The second and more important concern, largely because of its impact on children, is the rise of single-parent households. Over the past 25 years, the percentage has grown from a quarter to a third. In Georgia, 35 percent of children live in single-parent homes and 39.2 percent of births in 2004 were to unmarried women, according to the Annie E. Casey Foundation. Almost 70 percent of black children, almost half of Hispanic and a quarter of white children are born to unmarried women.

The liberal polling firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research singled out unmarried women and their potential impact on future elections. What it found should chill the spines of those who wish to reverse, or even slow, the growth of government — not so much because of its cost, but because Big Government steals the initiative and enterprise and independence of its wards.

“Because of the often stark economic reality of a single-income family, they [unmarried women] support an active government that will give all Americans a chance to get ahead, not just the affluent,” the organization reported.

As the nation discovered decades ago with welfare policies that pushed men out of the lives of poor women, except for procreation, women who previously found security in marriage turned instead to government. As Greenberg Quinlan Rosner find, unmarried women are a rich vein to be mined by Democrats. From its findings:

• “Marital status is playing an increasingly defining role in elections. For the 2006 congressional elections, the ‘marriage gap’ was 32 points, far bigger than the gender gap, which was just 9 points. Among women, the marriage gap was an even bigger 36 points … unmarried women tend to vote like other unmarried women, regardless of other powerful demographic variables such as age, income and education.”

• “Unmarried women are easily the largest segment of the Democratic base — bigger than Hispanics and African Americans combined.” And the second most loyal, second only to blacks. They favor Democrats over Republicans by a 70-24 margin, and Hillary Clinton over Rudy Giuliani by 66-30.

• “From 1960 to 2006, the percentage of the voting age population that was unmarried grew from 27 to 45 percent … If this trend continues, the unmarried will be a majority of the population within 15 years.”

• Their top economic concern is health care. “This group strongly supports fundamental reform to provide universal coverage that can never be taken away.”

• “In total, there are over 53 million unmarried women of voting age, a number that dwarfs the percentage of seniors, people of color and even union members.” Of those who voted in 2006, two-thirds chose Democrats. Some 20 million, however, did not vote. That’s 41 percent of the unmarrieds. Among the married, it was 29 percent. But “2008 could be very different if progressives see the opportunity before them.” Unmarried women “emerge as the largest contributor to the Democratic vote in 2008.”

Greenberg Quinlan Rosner views them as the “Democrats’ evangelicals.” opining that “if progressives turn them out, unmarried women can be as important to Democrats in 2008 as evangelicals were to Republicans in 2004.”

Combine the two: fewer people who pay taxes and a growing bloc of women who rely on government for their financial security and their household’s well-being.

The challenge for the nation is to rebuild the traditional two-parent family — primarily for the sake of children, but also as a balance to more and bigger government.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democratparty; elections; government; hillarycare; moralabsolutes; nannystate; single; taxes; unmarriedwomen; wimmenrscary; women; womensvote
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

If it makes you feel any better, you’re not alone.
Don’t give up, but don’t dwell on it. Remeber the grass is always greener. I know a few married guys at work that would trade places with me in a heartbeat. Good luck.


101 posted on 02/08/2008 7:07:38 AM PST by jrp
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To: MrB

Again, men are off the hook. And these stupid twit women don’t even TRY to get child support from the.


102 posted on 02/08/2008 7:09:04 AM PST by societygirl
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To: reformedliberal
If women want equality to men, they will have to WORK equally as men do. No brainer.
103 posted on 02/08/2008 7:11:59 AM PST by societygirl
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To: a_chronic_whiner

After seeing the commercials, I ventured into www.wvwv.org
(Women’s Voices, Women Vote)

Interesting. They say they aren’t bi-partisan, but I beg to differ.


104 posted on 02/08/2008 7:15:34 AM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: DoughtyOne
God what bunch of loser women we’ve turned out.

They ought to hang and butcher every one of us. Rape us all first because why waste good stuff?

105 posted on 02/08/2008 7:15:41 AM PST by Fishtalk (If you liked the above post, remember I've got a Blog you might like to visit.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Men have basicly been supporting themselves and their families for hundreds of years.

Yes, but they had stay-at-home wives taking care of their kids and the home. Single women do not have that. Many of them make less money than men and have to pay for day care, too. When the kids are sick, the moms have to call in absent to work and it jeopardizes their jobs. That's why these women feel more vulnerable and want a government "safety net." I'm not excusing the women who purposely have babies out of wedlock and then demand the government pay for them. I'm talking about women who find themselves single because their husbands died, left them, abused them, etc.

106 posted on 02/08/2008 7:22:27 AM PST by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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To: societygirl

There are a lot of men on *disability*, the major perk being government funded medical care and opiate scripts. Those are often the same men these women are involved with. In one instance, the husband was on disability and when they divorced, he received food stamps and a housing subsidy (maybe heat, as well?)because the wife’s disability income was gone after the divorce. She, OTOH, was penalized with reduced benefits since she was sharing an apartment with an adult daughter and since she worked the maximum number of hours (18/week) she was allowed before her Medicaid was cut.

I have learned that there is an entire subculture living like this. Men, women, their late teen children. It was almost like learning about the Travelers.


107 posted on 02/08/2008 7:23:40 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: societygirl
It has also made women slaves,,, to the Federal Government.

You're quite right about this. We've all become part-time slaves in a way that the pre-WWII generations would never have imagined.

108 posted on 02/08/2008 7:27:00 AM PST by Shigarian
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To: reformedliberal

And so many of these welfare chicks are supporting unemployed, loser men. Go figure.


109 posted on 02/08/2008 7:32:13 AM PST by societygirl
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To: a_chronic_whiner

OK, guys,
please tell us Freeper girls something....

are we going to have to put up with these crap threads for the next 5 years? (assuming this year and if Hillary wins— the next 4 added).

I just want to know....I mean, you seem to hate us all so much.

Maybe conservativism should become a ‘Guys Only’ belief system.


110 posted on 02/08/2008 7:36:57 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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To: societygirl

Ah, but Clinton/Obama/Kennedy are trying to pass laws that exempt women from having to negotiate higher pay.

They just have to get a lawyer and file a “equal pay” lawsuit, or just threaten to, and the employer will have to comply.

Another piece of garbage they’re pushing is in the “Civil Rights Act of 2008” - if there is “disparate outcome” of pay or hiring, the employer can be sued for discrimination, even if the policy itself is non-discriminatory.

This could force financial institutions to hire felons because of the “disparate outcome” in hiring for excluding them.


111 posted on 02/08/2008 7:37:09 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thank you...../sarc

All us loser Freeper Females thank you for your compliments.


112 posted on 02/08/2008 7:38:25 AM PST by najida (I am so grateful that stupid isn't contagious.)
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To: Shigarian
My first ex, the Dem said that the plan was to make women slaves. His great mantra was,”keep women poor, dependent, and keep the threat of rape and violence over their heads.” He said Dems really wanted to take girls out of school, to keep them “stupid,” he said. The other big Leftist plan was to put white women into breeding camps, and kill the ones over 25. I thought he was ranting when he was drunk. Turns out, he wasn’t. He did admit that his fellow travelers were “dictators, and Communists, and wanted to enslave people, especially women.
113 posted on 02/08/2008 7:38:43 AM PST by societygirl
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To: societygirl

Yea, go figure. Women supporting LOSERS. What a joke.

...and a good guy can’t even get a date.


114 posted on 02/08/2008 7:38:56 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
Women feel “sorry” for these losers, and say “they can’t help themselves, they are depressed, ad nasiem. While the unemployed loser is sucking away all of their money.
115 posted on 02/08/2008 7:41:36 AM PST by societygirl
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To: societygirl

And then if they’re lucky, they finally dump him.

Then after that, they’re so upset with men, that when a good one comes along, they ignore him or put him off or take it out on him just to find themselves get hung up with a jerk again...

I’ve been through that drill ALL TOO OFTEN!!


116 posted on 02/08/2008 7:46:16 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001
Yes, but these women usually don’t dump these creeps. THEY get dumped, when the guy finds a bigger meal ticket. However, I don’t think you would be interested in women like this. There are countless stupid women out there who blather things, like, “I was just trying to help him out,” after which the guy leaves them and does not pay them back. Dumb ox stupid.
117 posted on 02/08/2008 8:11:06 AM PST by societygirl
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Did you ever think that maybe these women PREFER losers? What other kinds of guys could they attract? THEY are losers, too.


118 posted on 02/08/2008 8:12:50 AM PST by societygirl
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To: flaglady47
[In response to a claim that women initiate most divorces]:

Yeah, primarily because hubby is usually catting around on her.

Can you back that statement up with anything other than anecdotal evidence?

Now, don’t give me a bunch of stats that you drummed up from heaven knows where (proof please or your stats). I know too many single women and the stories of their marriages to not know what’s going on here...Not saying it doesn’t happen, but the dumped man who did no wrong is a rare species in the scheme of things.

Perhaps you should provide some proof of your own statements before requesting the same from others.

I don't deny that there are plenty of women who have been wronged out there. But there are plenty of men who've been treated unfairly as well. If you don't believe me, just check out some of these "Wimmin 'r Evil" threads. I don't think the anecdotal evidence given by either side conclusively proves that their sex is the one getting the short end of the stick.

I suspect the truth is that men and women make bad spouses in about equal numbers. We may express our flaws in different ways, and cause different issues in relationships, but all told I think dysfunction is spread pretty evenly between men and women.

119 posted on 02/08/2008 9:20:38 AM PST by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: a_chronic_whiner
I have a plan to stop this nonsense. It's radical (radically conservative) but I think it could work.

Congress could simply pass a law denying citizenship to any child born in America that is NOT born into a recognized male-female marriage. Dumb 20 year old slut gets knocked up? Her kid won't be a citizen. We can create a new class of people -- call them "Bastard Aliens" or "Bastard Residents", whatever. They'll still be allowed to live and work here, but they won't be able to vote, hold office or collect government benefits.

I estimate that within 30 - 40 years of such a law entering into effect that most of America will be conservative by default, as a new generation of young, conservative raised-by-mom-and-dad citizens will be the only ones able to vote. Think about it!
120 posted on 02/08/2008 9:53:05 AM PST by LightBeam (Support the Surge. Support Victory.)
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