canaduh, it is to laugh... at!!!
Posted on 02/05/2008 4:42:51 PM PST by americanophile
In their latest missive to you, Naseem Mithoowani, Khurrum Awan and Muneeza Sheikh refer to the excerpt from my book published in Maclean's, as a "defamatory article". OK, if it's defamatory, why don't you sue me? Cue crickets chirping.
It's precisely because the article is not defamatory that the "plaintiffs" have had to rig the game by going to (at last count) three of Canada's many "human rights" pseudo-courts. In none of their plaintive reprises protesting that they're only looking for a chance to "start a debate" have they or their patrons at the Canadian Islamic Congress questioned the accuracy of a single specific fact, quotation or statistic. If they wanted to "start a debate," they could start one, via a blog, column or book. Instead, they started a "human rights" complaint, which is what people do when they want to end the debate.
This isn't merely a "freedom of speech" issue. Canada's Charter, much to its shame, explicitly abridges freedom of expression. However, it does not abridge the presumption of innocence, which is guaranteed by the Charter, as well as by the UN Declaration on Human Rights and Magna Carta. Yet there is no "presumption of innocence" in Section 13 "hate" cases. Au contraire, there is a presumption of guilt, which is why no one hauled before the CHRC under Section 13 has ever been acquitted -- with the exception of the "Canadian Nazi Party," which got off scot-free on the quaint grounds that it did not, in fact, exist. (The fact that Richard Warman, "human rights activist" and the CHRC's serial plaintiff, is reduced to suing entirely fictional entities tells you a lot about how necessary Section 13 is to the Queen's peace.)
Alas, if you do have the misfortune to exist in what passes for the real world at the CHRC, then your chances of bucking the spectacular 100% conviction rate are a lot slimmer. So Maclean's and my book will be convicted because that's the only menu option available. Section 13 and its administration are a public scandal. I hope Canadians will support Dr. Keith Martin, MP, who has introduced a private member's bill calling for its abolition.
As for the Osgoode Hall students' patron - and, in fact, the real "complainant," at least in the British Columbia suit -- the Canadian Islamic Congress is headed by Mohamed Elmasry, who declared on TV that he approved of the murder of any or all Israeli civilians over the age of 18. Good for him: I don't begrudge him his freedom of speech. But, if he can dish it out so enthusiastically, shouldn't he be able to take it just an eensy-teensy-weensy bit?
Mark Steyn, Montreal.
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And Canada wonders why they aren’t respected...
Isn’t there a Supreme Court equivalent that could overturn these sham courts?
They convict anyway, but then you must appeal on the lack of jurisdiction you have averred in the "investigation" phase of the process. There is no "Trial" per se according to law. Of course there is a defacto trial.
I would love to see Steyn and McCens sue the Human Rights Commissioners personally for violating his fundamental rights.Maybe he would make a cooll million that way, and bring about change. The liberal bureaucrats feel quite save behind their little administratrive law castles.
canaduh, it is to laugh... at!!!
Canada Free Speech Ping
At the moment Canada and Canadians are the laughing stock of the Western Hemisphere. Even Fidel Castro chuckles over those “Human Rights Commissions”.
He admitted he had posted under pseudonyms, as we all do. He then used his own posts to pander to his former bosses on the "human rights" commission. Racists! quoth he. He is very reticent on a scurrilous post about a woman Senator of colour. He allegedly used two vile words about her colour and sex.
Again, had this man been a conservative, the headlines from the MSM would have screamed loud and long. Poor Canada.
I feel like I’m coming in in the middle of the discussion. They filed a complaint against Steyn? For what book?
Thanks for posting. Hooray Mark! Kangaroo courts Canadian style.
Have any idea which article is referred to.
Is it time to create a Radio Free Canada?
For a magazine article in MacLean's, the Canadian political magazine.
I believe, though I stand to be corrected, the article was in reference to the book.
America Alone. Regnery Publishing,Inc. Washington DC. 2006. Mark Steyn.
I would like to quote the header on the dust cover.
"The arrogance of Mark Steyn knows no bounds".
Prince Turki al Faisal.
Saudi Ambassador to the United States.
This isn't merely a "freedom of speech" issue. Canada's Charter, much to its shame, explicitly abridges freedom of expression. However, it does not abridge the presumption of innocence, which is guaranteed by the Charter, as well as by the UN Declaration on Human Rights and Magna Carta. Yet there is no "presumption of innocence" in Section 13 "hate" cases. Au contraire, there is a presumption of guilt, which is why no one hauled before the CHRC under Section 13 has ever been acquitted -- with the exception of the "Canadian Nazi Party," which got off scot-free on the quaint grounds that it did not, in fact, exist. (The fact that Richard Warman, "human rights activist" and the CHRC's serial plaintiff, is reduced to suing entirely fictional entities tells you a lot about how necessary Section 13 is to the Queen's peace.)
Get stuffed.
Canada is quite well on its way BACK to respectablility on the international stage since the CONSERVATIVES were elected as their governing party.
Do you Yanks even HAVE a conservative party? Good grief, the front-runner in the Republican caucus makes the original JFK look positively hawkish.
IOW, get stuffed and clean up your own act before you cast aspersions on the ONLY friend you have in THIS hemisphere.
We are children of a common mother. Our mother is being MURDERED by the moon-worshipping HEATHEN HORDES of "Allah" and YOU sit there and harp about their "weakness" while your brothers and mine who are under arms DIE trying to end the slaughter.
It's like the book "The Wisdom of Ookah the Wise", or "The Parables of Isaiah".
If you Republicans are SERIOUS about wanting a CONSERVATIVE candidate/senator/congressman/president, NOMINATE AND SUPPORT ONE!!
Anything less is just whinging and unsupported complaint.
In other words: GROW THE HELL UP!!
Here’s a thread with more details about the article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1933329/posts
Appreciate because I totally missed all of this.
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