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Utah's Mormons loathe Huckabee
Politico ^ | 2/04/2008 | Richard T. Cullen

Posted on 02/04/2008 8:20:41 PM PST by JRochelle

Of all the possible Super Tuesday outcomes, one is more certain than any other: Mike Huckabee will not carry the state of Utah.

In large part it’s because Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the man credited with saving the Salt Lake City Olympics, is more popular here than in any other state.

But the other reason is that overwhelmingly Mormon Utah has taken a profound dislike to the Southern Baptist preacher best known for his nice-guy persona.

The wellspring of Huckabee hate is a now-famous Dec. 16 New York Times Magazine interview in which the former Arkansas governor, in an “innocent voice,” is reported to have asked, “Don’t Mormons ... believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?”

To Mormons, Huckabee’s eyebrow-raising question represented not only a gross distortion of their beliefs but also a carefully calculated move by a Christian politician who surely knew better.

Huckabee’s remark prompted Romney to call the comments “just not the American way” on NBC’s “Today” show.

Huckabee quickly apologized, saying that Romney’s Mormonism had nothing to do with whether he should be president. With that, the candidates and the national media moved on to other topics.

In Utah, however, all was not forgiven.

“There is a feeling that Huckabee has exploited a lot of the anti-Mormon sentiment,” said LaVarr Webb, a political consultant and publisher in Utah.

“The feeling is that he would certainly know the answers to these questions that he’s been asking sometimes,” said Chuck Gates, assistant managing editor of Utah’s Deseret Morning News.

According to Webb and other state political insiders interviewed by Politico, many Mormons maintain that Huckabee’s apology did not go nearly far enough.

Quin Monson, assistant director of the Center for the Study of Elections and Democracy at Brigham Young University, says many observers believe that “evangelicals have rejected Romney, and that Huckabee is aiding and abetting that. ... He’s egging it on.”

As it turns out, this isn’t the first time that Huckabee has rubbed Utahans the wrong way. In the summer of 1998, then-Arkansas Gov. Huckabee, along with fellow national church leaders, attended the National Southern Baptist Convention in Salt Lake City.

At the time, the decision to hold the event in the shadow of the Mormon Tabernacle was viewed by many Mormons as an insulting stab directed at the very heart of the LDS church.

Worse, according to an account published in the Salt Lake Tribune during the convention, some 2,000 “messengers” of the Southern Baptist Convention went door to door in Utah and proselytized, “armed with questionnaires and their personal belief in Jesus Christ as their savior.”

Because of his participation in that convention and because of his theological background, many Utahans believe that Huckabee has been deeply disingenuous throughout the campaign — not just in one well-publicized interview — in his approach toward the issue of Romney’s Mormon faith.

The Huckabee campaign did not respond to e-mail and phone requests for comment.

The Baptists’ choice of Salt Lake City was a deliberate one, said James Guth, a leading authority on the influence of religion in politics and professor at Furman University.

The Baptists intended to “create a new mission field.” Mormons and the Southern Baptists, he explained, are members of “competing missionary religions.”

“It used to be that the Mormons were in Utah and Southern Baptists were in the South,” Guth said. “Now, Mormons are all over the world, and Southern Baptists want to be all over the world.”

Aside from the issue of clashing faiths, there is a more practical component to Huckabee’s unpopularity.

There is a widespread belief, not just in Utah but among many Romney partisans, that Huckabee’s long-shot — and lingering — candidacy is serving little purpose other than to siphon votes from Romney, Utah’s adopted son, by splitting the conservative vote against John McCain.

“There’s just the feeling that if we really wanted to unite behind a conservative candidate, we would unite behind Romney,” said Dave Hansen, former campaign manager for Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah).

“You can’t force [Huckabee] out, but all things considered, I think there are a lot of conservatives who wish he were not still in the race.”

In the unlikely event that Huckabee does capture the Republican nomination, his Utah baggage could come back to haunt him.

In the deeply red state where President Bush still maintains some of his highest approval ratings, a place that has ranked as the most Republican state in the nation in six of the past eight presidential elections, a BYU poll released Monday reveals that Huckabee would pull off the seemingly impossible.

As GOP nominee, he would lose the state of Utah in a hypothetical matchup with Democrat Barack Obama, 58 percent to 42 percent.

Romney, by contrast, would defeat Obama 69 percent to 31 percent. McCain would also win against Obama, though by a more modest 55 percent to 45 percent.

Still, there are limits to how much Utah dislikes Huckabee: In a head-to-head matchup with Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, Huckabee wins handily, 60 percent to 41 percent.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: huckabee; mikehuckabee; mormonism; mormonvote; romney; ut2008
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To: MNJohnnie

that “gang of 14” saved the senate and got Alito, Owens, Pryor and Brown CONFIRMED. McCain did the right thing here

Imagine if some democrat became president and tried to appoint radical judges. The GOP would’ve lost their ability to filibuster if they already used the “nuclear option” when they were in control.


41 posted on 02/04/2008 8:39:35 PM PST by ari-freedom (Jim Robinson "Free Republic’s goal is to elect conservatives. Romney is NO conservative")
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To: greyfoxx39

ping


42 posted on 02/04/2008 8:39:49 PM PST by JRochelle ("But dad, Eli is copying me!" Peyton)
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To: muawiyah

You want my address? You are going to horsewhip me? Tell me now, are you threating me?


43 posted on 02/04/2008 8:39:54 PM PST by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: JRochelle

What is stupid is Huck staying in to pimp for McCain.


44 posted on 02/04/2008 8:40:08 PM PST by TheLion
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To: ari-freedom
Nothing more important then life according to you

Then why are you supporting John McCain who voted for Federal Funding for Stem Cell Research?

Why are you supporting the guy who Senator Rick Santorum said actively working against the Senate GOP for the last 8 years every time it was trying to bring up votes on Pro Life and other social Conservative issues?

We fear Romney may betray us, we Know McCain/Huckabee will

45 posted on 02/04/2008 8:40:10 PM PST by MNJohnnie (McCain is about as tough on Foreign Policy as the next opinion poll)
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To: JRochelle

It won’t be the first time some one claim to be something they are not!


46 posted on 02/04/2008 8:40:41 PM PST by restornu (John McCain motto: “Republican by day, Democrat by night” *** Romney is the true American Capitalist)
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To: ari-freedom

Your post should read pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun McCain.


47 posted on 02/04/2008 8:40:43 PM PST by chae (Proud MITTen)
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To: Moral Hazard
The RCP national average has McCain leading by 18.3%, and that’s an average of 8 polls.

Those polls are inconvenient for Romney supporters but they will know tomorrow won't they? (unless they deny the results of the elections too).

48 posted on 02/04/2008 8:41:12 PM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: JRochelle
some 2,000 “messengers” of the Southern Baptist Convention went door to door in Utah and proselytized, “armed with questionnaires and their personal belief in Jesus Christ as their savior.”

Beginning to think that Carter, Clinton and huckleberry are the rule not the exception, re Southern Baptists.

49 posted on 02/04/2008 8:41:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: MNJohnnie

Well, back in 2005 the establishment GOP said the war was going fine. The Voters in 2006 said otherwise.

If we listened to McCain in 2005, we’d still have control of congress.


50 posted on 02/04/2008 8:41:23 PM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: muawiyah

“I prefer the bear chested look.”
Grizzly or Yogi?


51 posted on 02/04/2008 8:41:55 PM PST by BunkDetector (Congatulations Giants! from a Pats fan)
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To: JRochelle
This California Catholic loathes the Huckster too.

Why Not Huckabee?
WHAT a cute dog!

52 posted on 02/04/2008 8:42:31 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (Unite 4 Mitt --- Stop McCain)
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To: MNJohnnie

when you can name one admiral or general that supports Romney, please tell me as I’d really love to know.


53 posted on 02/04/2008 8:42:41 PM PST by ari-freedom (Jim Robinson "Free Republic’s goal is to elect conservatives. Romney is NO conservative")
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To: MNJohnnie
The only people who think it is stupid are those who KNOW it is true. Who has a better chance to beat McCain?

For what seems the millionth time -- NOT TRUE!!!

The staff at National Review Online quoted polls saying if Huck was out of the race the vast majority of his supporters would go to McCain.

Polling in southern states also bears that out -- when Huck slides, McCain's numbers grow while Romney remains static.

FACE IT -- social conservatives do not trust Romney!!!!! He flipped on guns, abortion, traditional marriage, gays in the Boy Scouts, EVERY ISSUE important to social conservatives.

For the record, National Review endorsed Romney.

54 posted on 02/04/2008 8:42:54 PM PST by fideist (Proud Father of a U.S. Marine.)
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To: muawiyah

Pretty tough talk from an old postal worker


55 posted on 02/04/2008 8:43:16 PM PST by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: gitmo; JRochelle
Doggone near everybody in Utah who's not a Mormon is a Baptist, and vice versa.

There's probably some friction between these two overwhelming factions ~ and likely some intermarriage or something.

Not likely the Mormons got angry with Baptists holding a convention in SLC ~ provided they paid their bills on time. Now they mighta' got angry with them for not buying enough likker, but that's jes' the Baptist way, eh?!

56 posted on 02/04/2008 8:43:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: hinckley buzzard

Shrug JW and LDS are in my neighborhood all the time.


57 posted on 02/04/2008 8:43:48 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: BunkDetector

Getting along in age so its more like POLAR!


58 posted on 02/04/2008 8:44:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: lookout88

Do you let your dog get the mange? You did know that makes them grouchy and then they snarl at the letter carriers.


59 posted on 02/04/2008 8:45:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: lookout88

It would appear you don’t know how to read long sentences. Try it again until you get it right.


60 posted on 02/04/2008 8:46:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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